**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Nov 30 02:59:58 2012 Nov 30 03:19:07 hey Nov 30 03:19:26 hello eblade_pre3 Nov 30 03:29:53 eblade_pre3, heya Nov 30 03:30:01 we have new toys... Nov 30 03:52:03 ka6sox ? Nov 30 03:53:22 yes Nov 30 03:54:16 look @ twitter :D Nov 30 03:57:59 link me? Nov 30 03:58:41 https://twitter.com/webosports/status/274335249524224000?uid=585224669&iid=am-27825118013542416605570008&nid=6+273 Nov 30 04:00:44 oh.. nice :) Nov 30 04:08:51 protip: accidentally tripping over a mac power cable with the screen closed puts it to sleep instantly Nov 30 05:34:23 Nice servers, sure building on those will fly :) Nov 30 15:31:14 morning Roy__ Roy__away Nov 30 15:32:39 Morning! Nov 30 15:59:43 silly question..is Tweaks a Mojo App? Nov 30 16:00:39 ka6sox, https://github.com/webos-internals/tweaks looks enyo to me... Nov 30 16:01:06 kk Nov 30 16:01:57 how much of a job does converting xecutah to Enyo look like? Nov 30 16:07:38 havent looked too much at it Nov 30 16:09:34 for someone who knows enyo better than me it should be pretty quick. Nov 30 16:25:39 morning ShiftyAxel Nov 30 16:31:46 morning scoutcamper, how goes? Nov 30 16:31:58 also, converting xecutah to enyo2 is fairly trivial :) Nov 30 16:32:09 it goes good. Nov 30 16:32:47 right now im trying to learn sdl so i can try to get xserver to fire up on-device..... Nov 30 16:33:01 halfhalo: I reccommend sleepless for avoiding mac power cable fails Nov 30 16:33:04 morning ShiftyAxel Nov 30 16:33:10 morning Garfonso Nov 30 16:34:13 scoutcamper: what issue are you having with xserver? Nov 30 16:35:07 elpollodiablo1, i am trying to get it to fire up by launching it manually. it throws an SDL error that i dont have with me(gnex is at home, im at school) Nov 30 16:36:28 by manually you mean through command line? does OWO support sdl apps? Nov 30 16:37:19 yes, through commandline since OWO doesnt have mojo support and xecutah is mojo app right now Nov 30 16:37:48 elpollodiablo1, as far as i can tell yes it has sdl support, however, whoknows if the sdl support is complete..... Nov 30 16:38:55 I know xserver uses a few PDK function. for like keyboard and so on. Nov 30 16:42:16 it also checks hardware usng PDL_GetHardwareID which might be causing some issue. Nov 30 16:42:52 ok Nov 30 17:03:51 elpollodiablo1, my weekend is pretty much shot(helping with local christmas parade, plus keeping up my own massive christmas display), but if i have 10-15 minutes ill see if i can get the sdl error posted here.... Nov 30 17:04:45 maybe someone better at SDL than me can look at it Nov 30 17:04:49 alright Nov 30 18:08:57 scoutcamper|away: it would at least somewhat surprise me if a native app like xserver actually worked on a different device Nov 30 18:11:07 EricBlade: ping Nov 30 18:11:26 present! Nov 30 18:12:24 I've tried you patch of build-webos-desktop.sh, still the same problem :-( Nov 30 18:17:02 hmm. that worked here, and you said you had to add that same thing to get it to work o.O Nov 30 18:20:26 EricBlade: I just use export LDFLAGS and put it before $CMAKE, now it could link sucessfully Nov 30 18:21:20 grr. i'll look into it Nov 30 18:22:01 bash these days is really really different from the shells when i was a frequent unix user. :-S Nov 30 18:22:30 i originally had it as export, but someone suggested i put it on that line Nov 30 18:22:37 so it would only be good for that process Nov 30 18:23:30 i wonder if that's just not sending it to the environment, or if it needs to also be set for the make install line Nov 30 18:23:37 EricBlade: ah, i'm not using bash. Instead, i use zsh Nov 30 18:23:54 is zsh bash compatible? Nov 30 18:24:15 back in my day we had super awful "sh", and everyone used either csh or dash i think Nov 30 18:24:20 EricBlade: not totally Nov 30 18:24:44 the default shell in ubuntu is dash Nov 30 18:25:04 oh. so we didn't use dash back then Nov 30 18:25:11 csh and some other thing that i'm sure no one uses anymore Nov 30 18:26:23 but mostly zsh is bash compatible Nov 30 18:29:40 Too many conferences in too few days. Nov 30 18:29:47 EricBlade: just comfirmed, if i put export LDFLAGS after $CMAKE, it will also failed linking: /usr/bin/ld: warning: libcjson.so.1, needed by /home/panda/luna-desktop-binaries/staging/lib/libluna-service2.so, not found (try using -rpath or -rpath-link) Nov 30 19:18:20 EricBlade: tried bash, still failure. just found something: cmake will set CMAKE_MODULE_LINKER_FLAGS to $LDFLAGS in ./build/CMakeCache.txt Nov 30 20:38:49 morning ! Nov 30 20:38:59 Ok so I recompiled the whole stuff Nov 30 20:39:06 I almost managed not to break something Nov 30 20:39:44 now the scaling¢ering of the display is a bit worse Nov 30 20:39:58 but more annoying, the touchscreen doesn't do anything Nov 30 20:41:09 one cool thing is that the display refreshed itself Nov 30 20:43:43 Hi guys, I know I should ask this on the other channel (webos-internals), but I've done yet without answers... so... is there a script to create a meta-doctor to transform a pixi plus AT&T in EU, as there's for the Pre3 and the Veer? Nov 30 20:46:59 Why would you want EU specifically? Nov 30 20:47:29 Which version? 1.4.5 or 2.1 ? Dec 01 01:26:50 hi Dec 01 01:27:54 just having read about the long long buildtimes in the blog post about the donated servers… doesn't the Open webOS buildsystem make use of ccache? I think this could speed up buildtimes drastically… I'm using it since ~10 years on all my Gentoo boxes and never had any troubles with it Dec 01 01:49:09 eliasp: it uses sstate, but you still have to download it Dec 01 01:49:17 which factors into buildtime Dec 01 02:03:13 i wiish there was a way to transfer a process from one X-display to another **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Dec 01 02:59:58 2012