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Dec 15 03:00:57 <Susurrus> So pretty much all of them are left, then? Were the 3.x touchpad apps all enyo1?
Dec 15 03:05:14 <ka6sox> fxspec06,
Dec 15 03:05:16 <ka6sox> ping?
Dec 15 03:07:49 <ka6sox> Susurrus, are you still here?
Dec 15 03:09:38 <ka6sox> Susurrus, yes, they had mojo too.
Dec 15 03:09:50 <ka6sox> but we don't have Mojo anymore...never was released.
Dec 15 03:19:27 <Susurrus> Yeah, I'm here.
Dec 15 03:22:10 <Susurrus> That's too bad.
Dec 15 03:22:19 <Susurrus> I'd love to help; I have some experience with Enyo1.
Dec 15 03:22:31 <Susurrus> But I got too much work to do between now and end of Jan.
Dec 15 03:22:36 <Susurrus> Maybe afterwards I'll try to jump in.
Dec 15 03:22:48 <Susurrus> I'm sick of not being able to upgrade from my FrankenPre2.
Dec 15 03:27:46 <ka6sox> this is the thing we are doing for the next 2 months or so...trying to get to at least an alpha...maybe a limited beta with this..
Dec 15 03:27:59 <ka6sox> but we are dying from lack of Apps Devs (as we are mostly Systems People)
Dec 15 03:31:43 <fxspec06> ka6sox: dm?
Dec 15 03:32:32 <ka6sox> dm?
Dec 15 03:35:00 <ka6sox> got it
Dec 15 03:41:30 <Susurrus> Well assuming you guys haven't finished by the time I would be able to help, I'll try to see if I can help out with apps.
Dec 15 03:42:13 <ShiftyAxel> help is always appreciated :)
Dec 15 03:43:29 <ka6sox> Susurrus, we will need a LOT of apps both now and in the future
Dec 15 03:44:21 <Susurrus> Yeah, 1Million+ to compete with iOS, right? :-(
Dec 15 03:44:31 <Susurrus> Gonna be a ton of work there to build an ecosystem.
Dec 15 03:45:57 <ka6sox> its not going to be that hard once we do the ones that require us to manipulate the environment of the hardware
Dec 15 03:46:05 <ka6sox> those ones are what we need to work on now.
Dec 15 03:46:22 <ka6sox> wifi/phone/bt power/etc
Dec 15 03:46:36 <fxspec06> brb guys..
Dec 15 03:46:41 <ka6sox> those bits are what we need to concentrate on immediately
Dec 15 03:46:46 <ShiftyAxel> I'm working wifi, but am having build issues with the GNex so I'll probably build it on the touchpad for now
Dec 15 03:46:53 <ShiftyAxel> same services, so it'll work just fine
Dec 15 03:47:15 <ka6sox> right
Dec 15 03:48:56 <Susurrus> Is that the Galaxy Nexus? That's the target along with the Touchpad?
Dec 15 03:49:30 <ka6sox> the TP is not a Open WebOS Target
Dec 15 03:49:40 <ka6sox> but for some development it works fine
Dec 15 03:49:57 <scoutcamper> like Memos or Settings.
Dec 15 03:51:16 <Susurrus> Too many problems with the hardware on the TP?
Dec 15 03:51:19 <ka6sox> once the backend services get changed out the front ends won't care
Dec 15 03:51:34 <ka6sox> proprietary drivers we can't get for a 3.X kernel environment
Dec 15 03:57:40 <Susurrus> Dang, that's too bad.
Dec 15 03:58:01 <Susurrus> I had actually been thinking of getting a TP at some point, but if it can't do open-webos, I'll skip it.
Dec 15 03:59:49 <ka6sox> LunaCE makes it nice
Dec 15 04:01:36 <ShiftyAxel> I've seen some pictures of WIP webOS ports to tablets on the twitters, so personally I'd hold off
Dec 15 04:01:48 <ShiftyAxel> TP is a good tablet, and LunaCE is nice, but it's showing it's age some...
Dec 15 04:06:28 <Susurrus> Yeah, I wish HP would've stuck with it and tried to get some better hardware out there.
Dec 15 04:06:39 <Susurrus> I think that was the biggest problem with WebOS.
Dec 15 04:06:56 <Susurrus> The OS was alright when it was released and has gotten a lot better, but the hardware wasn't good until the Pre3.
Dec 15 04:07:05 <Susurrus> Which needed to be released 2 years earlier to be competitive.
Dec 15 04:07:16 <ka6sox> agreed with all of htat
Dec 15 04:07:24 <ka6sox> however we are where we are.
Dec 15 04:07:43 <ka6sox> at least it didn't just DIE in Closed Source Scrap heap..
Dec 15 04:08:03 <ka6sox> like OS/2 and OS9 and others ;(
Dec 15 04:17:57 <Susurrus> Yeah, that would've sucked.
Dec 15 04:18:10 <Susurrus> How much support does HP throw towards OpenWebOS and it's various components?
Dec 15 04:18:19 <Susurrus> I saw they donated some servers recently.
Dec 15 04:19:13 <ka6sox> Susurrus, they support things daily
Dec 15 04:32:07 <Susurrus> Awesome. I haven't heard much about their support. Was hoping this wasn't a open-source spin-off that just got dumped on the community.
Dec 15 04:33:28 <ka6sox> they are actively working it
Dec 15 04:40:03 <Susurrus> Great. Well it was good talking to both of you, ka6sox and ShiftAxel. Keep up the good work and hopefully I can join in a couple months.
Dec 15 04:40:34 <ka6sox> I hope so Susurrus
Dec 15 10:25:40 <fxspec06> so, i've got to reinstall linux.
Dec 15 10:26:09 <fxspec06> i'm trying to choose the best distro to use. wondering if i should dedicate my laptop to linux or what
Dec 15 10:47:01 <bhuey> folks
Dec 15 21:40:24 <DMeister> Hi guys
Dec 15 21:40:27 <DMeister> There's anyone who know if is possible create a meta-doctor EU for a Pixi Plus AT&T?
Dec 15 21:41:42 <ka6sox-away> DMeister, I doubt the frequencies will work
Dec 15 21:42:50 <DMeister> @ka6sox the problem is that, in fact: here in Italy 3G doesn't work, so you confirm nothing can be done? (isn't a cdma or it is?)
Dec 15 21:43:16 <ka6sox-away> you can disable carrier check
Dec 15 21:43:23 <ka6sox-away> (in meta-doctor)
Dec 15 21:43:28 <ka6sox-away> so that might work...
Dec 15 21:44:08 <DMeister> ok, I'll try, thanks ;)
Dec 15 21:44:16 <ka6sox-away> DMeister, np...
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