**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Dec 23 03:00:00 2012 Dec 23 05:53:10 fxspec06, everything? Dec 23 15:30:28 i think we need a "run-js-service" script that supports starting non-jailed nodejs services. the question is: patch a -J option in the current script or give it a new name "run-js-nojail-service". Dec 23 17:03:22 stbuehler, I don't see us getting Jails back anytime soon....but if they do we need something clean to just re-enable them Dec 23 17:07:43 I'd say create a new script and symlink it back to the old one Dec 23 17:07:52 (old name) Dec 23 18:52:14 fxspec06, Lumberjack needs a facelift? Dec 23 19:17:16 cool. i think i have that in a package somewhere Dec 23 19:17:46 i can work on that in my spare time. Dec 23 19:19:16 fxspec06, ty Dec 23 20:02:19 luna-sysmgr build for gnex is still in broken status? Dec 23 20:03:16 afaik no Dec 23 20:04:12 ah yes it is Dec 23 20:10:57 that's kind of a weird one, just having HostArm break like that. It shouldn't have been affected by the changes to pbnjson since OE was already using cmake to build it Dec 23 20:12:01 hmmm...new Threaded Email client is Enyo1? Dec 23 20:12:17 it's changes to the existing email Dec 23 20:12:38 did I read somewhere that someone wrote a enyo1 to enyo2 translator? Dec 23 20:14:55 so we need a Google API Service for both Messaging and Email Dec 23 20:15:23 but this all hinges upon PmCertificateMangler Dec 23 20:15:36 EricBlade1: are you talking about that issue with missing #include? Dec 23 20:16:24 JaMa|Off: yeah . . . as far as i know that was something that only affected desktop, since desktop was staging it in the wrong place .. or something like that Dec 23 20:17:17 i don't know, there were about a billion changes to make that work, and i was waist deep in an unrelated task, so i sort of glossed over it Dec 24 00:00:25 woah. the lumberjack code was already in the same workspace i was working in already. just the project was closed Dec 24 00:04:56 fancy Dec 24 00:20:04 i think this can be very cool. Dec 24 00:25:47 fxspec06_, you reallize that oil wrote this :D Dec 24 00:26:31 im pretty sure sugardave started converting the enyo1 lumberjack to 2 Dec 24 00:27:13 oh really, so i shouldn't even bother then? Dec 24 00:28:28 * fxspec06_ never saw enyo1 lumberjack Dec 24 00:28:44 i was going to rethink it from mojo Dec 24 00:28:47 probably dont want to spend the time on the same thing Dec 24 00:29:02 but if it's already being taken care of.. Dec 24 00:29:18 he should be uploading his code somewhere Dec 24 00:30:23 https://github.com/sugardave/webos-lumberjack-enyo Dec 24 00:30:40 aha! Dec 24 00:30:44 did not see this Dec 24 00:30:50 :) Dec 24 00:31:02 apparently lukegb is also working on lumberjack, if the wiki is to be believed Dec 24 00:31:02 yeah, like that :) Dec 24 00:31:04 what other fine things are we working on still... Dec 24 00:31:14 I'm not sure I'm going to have time Dec 24 00:31:23 especially seeing as I can't bloody get services working at all :/ Dec 24 00:31:37 oh well i can do that if you can't Dec 24 00:31:49 i think sugardave's working on it, you guys should work with him Dec 24 00:32:27 the back end is always the fun bits :D Dec 24 00:33:31 it makes fun not-web magic happen :D Dec 24 00:34:59 i think maybe i misunderstood the problem when i said that? i forgot what LJ does Dec 24 00:35:19 on-device debugging tool Dec 24 00:35:25 it looks after your logs of course :) Dec 24 00:35:35 yeah, but that would require 'special' services..? Dec 24 00:36:06 how was a mojo app to read from /var/log/messages without a service? Dec 24 00:36:14 unless you know how to access the syslog/webappmgr logs using pure JS, yes :p Dec 24 00:36:45 it would also listen to the dbus/ls2 for debugging services Dec 24 00:36:47 well, right, yeah i can hook it to the mojo / palmservice bridge Dec 24 00:37:00 if that's what it needs Dec 24 00:39:02 logs, and LS2 bus hooks. Dec 24 00:39:13 for "sniffing" Dec 24 00:41:21 this is a good shell so far. Dec 24 00:43:10 yeah i lied, i don't know much about those services Dec 24 00:44:09 rod wrote the service Dec 24 00:54:21 rwhitby, can probably help. Dec 24 00:54:33 i see, he hasn't included a lot yet, just a blank layout and a couple other things. Dec 24 00:55:59 it runs on my TP, the part that's there. i can take a look at the mojo version and understanding what it's doing, i might be able to get it working easily. Dec 24 00:56:50 i say "hasn't included a lot" -- i should change that to "practically did everything" Dec 24 01:02:44 did enyo 1 LJ ever fully function? Dec 24 01:03:05 parts of it did Dec 24 01:04:41 it was never as functional as the mojo version Dec 24 01:12:31 i'll wait until i talk to sugardave before i do anything. like the guts need work it seems, the menus are not fully there, and definitely the backend code is not there, and i'm not sure if he's got a plan for how he wants anything done Dec 24 01:13:44 i think at one point i will have to talk to rwhitby, but right now not sure what questions i'd need to ask. Dec 24 01:16:18 the general idea is to have the app work perfectly on the TouchPad first...then move it over to new devices Dec 24 01:19:55 so i guess my next question would be, where can i find a copy of the enyo 1 LJ? Dec 24 01:23:16 http://db.tt/V9ILGVS0 Dec 24 01:23:37 is a zip of the source on my pc Dec 24 01:23:47 http://db.tt/ziV2h5t is the last ipk i uploaded (6/20/11) Dec 24 01:24:29 i think thats what sugardave was starting with Dec 24 01:24:39 great! thank you Dec 24 01:24:43 np Dec 24 01:29:49 http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2773528/lumbo1.png i forgot how awesome it was lol Dec 24 01:30:13 i've never used it, i always wondered about it..... Dec 24 01:33:21 its easier to teach testers to use then getting logs off their device Dec 24 01:34:11 question: I want to compile webos ce for x86. What would be the best way to go about this/where to start? Dec 24 01:35:07 oh my god i <3 it. i've always used the mojo version, i had to blow it up myself to make it big. this is naturally big! Dec 24 01:35:30 yeah Dec 24 01:37:05 the zip is newer then the ipk Dec 24 01:48:26 k. i can say i can help port the files, guts, and layout at least if nothing else. starting w/ getting the app list, then the panel for the log list. but still won't start w/o talking to sugardave at least. i could start tomorrow morning Dec 24 01:48:43 but i'd hate to work on a list and then find out he did it and hadn't updated the repo yet Dec 24 01:55:26 I think he pushed everything before he left... Dec 24 01:59:05 then i guess i can assume there would be no conflict. cool well tomorrow well i'll take a look at it in the morning then. for tonight, it's bed-time LOTR + football! later guys Dec 24 02:00:08 later fxspec06_ Dec 24 02:05:16 laters **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Dec 24 02:59:58 2012