**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Jan 07 02:59:59 2013
Jan 07 08:36:05 <JaMa> EricBlade: you're using old oe-core/bitbake from mcf, right?
Jan 07 08:36:23 <JaMa> EricBlade: there were a lot of issues with that, maybe that's why I see different behavior
Jan 07 08:36:40 <EricBlade> yes
Jan 07 08:47:56 <ka6sox> JaMa, fixed a lot of stuff to make the builds work right.
Jan 07 08:55:21 <EricBlade> fxspec06_: i don't think the viewport things are currently supported.  also, i think the "emulator window" support is still in luna, though i haven't looked for it, so i wouldn't be positive on that.  and, it's really not any more of a resource hog than anything else running in Javascript.  It's just a very messy system to work with.
Jan 07 08:55:39 <EricBlade> er.. i mean .. Mojo isn't really any more of a resource hog than ...
Jan 07 08:56:24 <EricBlade> Although it may be possible that Mojo simply does not function without some things that are no longer in sysmgr
Jan 07 08:56:40 <ka6sox> its not supported anymore...
Jan 07 08:56:54 <ka6sox> (thats what "Engineering" told me...so I gave up on it.
Jan 07 08:56:57 <ka6sox> )
Jan 07 08:57:19 <EricBlade> it's most definitely not supported, and the likeliness of it being released to open source is probably approaching zero.
Jan 07 08:58:19 <EricBlade> not "approaching" as in heading towards that number, but "approaching" as in "very very close to that number"
Jan 07 08:59:01 * ka6sox has given up on it
Jan 07 08:59:17 <ka6sox> don't even want to talk about it...its DEAD/Buried...
Jan 07 09:00:28 <fxspec06_> lol, i like the theme / buttons though
Jan 07 09:01:29 <ka6sox> right now we need to fix the broken stuff as nobody is going to want core-apps that look like crud and perform badly.
Jan 07 09:07:10 <ka6sox> but we have some good insight..thanks to Jason's emails...
Jan 07 09:07:13 <ka6sox> quite helpful.
Jan 07 09:08:53 <ka6sox> just need to find some help to implement this...a lot going on everywhere.
Jan 07 09:10:38 <morphis> ka6sox: yes, more help is always appreciated :)
Jan 07 09:10:41 <fxspec06_> i can help. i can try to help. i'm afraid of getting in the way and not being able to finish stuff, but if you need a hand doing something specific you can ask
Jan 07 09:15:12 <fxspec06_> which core apps were you looking to "reshape" next
Jan 07 09:15:27 <morphis> fxspec06_: email is the first one
Jan 07 09:16:39 <ka6sox> unless its "simple" (which Jason's email didn't seem to indicate), we should convert to Enyo2 from Enyo1 for "futureproofing"
Jan 07 09:17:34 <ka6sox> also use a common cordova.js from /usr/palm/frameworks
Jan 07 09:18:25 <fxspec06_> i can start making a shell and porting over the big parts if you like. i'd much rather do that than LJ. although i'm a bit worried for my code style, and the way i approach things might be a bit unconventional
Jan 07 09:19:01 <morphis> fxspec06_, ka6sox: for the first step we should try to fix the existing app
Jan 07 09:19:06 <morphis> as it's there and mostly working
Jan 07 09:19:13 <morphis> from the functional perspective
Jan 07 09:19:19 <fxspec06_> it def isn't simple, probably about as big as spaz transition to neo (minus the UI change), that took me a good 2-3 weeks to get running well
Jan 07 09:19:53 <fxspec06_> well, i sort of disagree.. i would think we should ignore enyo 1 and just move straight to enyo 2
Jan 07 09:20:08 <morphis> why?
Jan 07 09:20:09 <fxspec06_> but, if you feel that's better, and can give me a good reason, i'd listen
Jan 07 09:20:23 <ka6sox> as long as people push up their changes so if they have to p00f they have made it available for others to continue the work I am okay with that.
Jan 07 09:20:41 <morphis> the good reason is: the app is functional complete and is working, just the UI is not suitable for our porting targets
Jan 07 09:20:54 <morphis> I am not against porting to enyo2, but that is the second step
Jan 07 09:21:00 <fxspec06_> aha, the UI is what you are interested in
Jan 07 09:21:08 <ka6sox> so we need to test on TP then?
Jan 07 09:21:12 <ka6sox> will that work?
Jan 07 09:21:31 <fxspec06_> ok, then that's okay. i'd need a few mockup screens and i can go from there
Jan 07 09:21:35 <morphis> fxspec06_: I mean the complete app (which does not include the backend services)
Jan 07 09:21:56 <morphis> fxspec06_: mockup screens for the new enyo2 based app?
Jan 07 09:22:20 <fxspec06_> interesting. i didn't realize there was a version that didn't depend on those backend services, that's great!
Jan 07 09:22:46 <ka6sox> just the enyo2 bits...(converted from enyo1)
Jan 07 09:23:23 <morphis> fxspec06_: the com.palm.app.email app needs the mojomail backend service which isn't something we have to touch for the conversion or for making it work
Jan 07 09:23:38 <fxspec06_> yep. i understand that much
Jan 07 09:23:45 <morphis> ok
Jan 07 09:24:59 <fxspec06_> so for now, it's better to focus on catering the enyo 1 version to your needs BECAUSE it works
Jan 07 09:25:04 <fxspec06_> is this what you're saying?
Jan 07 09:25:10 <morphis> yes
Jan 07 09:25:24 <fxspec06_> ok. i agree
Jan 07 09:25:34 <morphis> fxspec06_: so you will work on this?
Jan 07 09:25:35 <ka6sox> fxspec06_, are you subscribed to the Mailing List?
Jan 07 09:25:49 <fxspec06_> ka6sox: i don't think so.
Jan 07 09:26:12 <morphis> fxspec06_: http://mailman.openwebosproject.org/pipermail/openwebos-general/2013-January/000171.html and the following mails
Jan 07 09:26:26 <ka6sox> that is what I wanted you to see.
Jan 07 09:27:51 <fxspec06_> morphis: i can offer as much time as i have from now until at least the end of this semester. my priorities are: #1 school, #2 workstudy, #3 neo for another week or two and then #4 would be this.
Jan 07 09:28:16 <morphis> fxspec06_: neo?
Jan 07 09:28:48 <fxspec06_> yeah, my own webos project. =P
Jan 07 09:29:21 <morphis> ah
Jan 07 09:29:25 <morphis> ready for owo? :)
Jan 07 09:29:40 <fxspec06_> i can commit to right now, let's say 5hrs / week. that's as good as i can offer. i know it sounds small
Jan 07 09:29:53 <fxspec06_> i'm def trying to be ready, lol
Jan 07 09:30:00 <morphis> :)
Jan 07 09:30:16 <morphis> fxspec06_: sounds like at least something which should help us very much
Jan 07 09:30:36 <morphis> fxspec06_: we need every help we can get and I think your amount of time should be enough for fixing up the email app
Jan 07 09:30:39 <fxspec06_> http://www.webosnation.com/neo-twitter-demo-enyo2 got to have this ready for when you guys make it big, i can get all the $$$
Jan 07 09:30:41 <ka6sox> what is neo?
Jan 07 09:31:05 <ka6sox> got it
Jan 07 09:31:34 <morphis> fxspec06_: it's not opensource, right?
Jan 07 09:31:37 <fxspec06_> well, like i said, i'm worried about the amount of time i can give to you. i want to give enough to be worth it you know?
Jan 07 09:32:26 <morphis> fxspec06_: one critical part of our work is to get the core apps working on our porting targets and I thing if you can get this done at least for the email app it should bring us a lot forward
Jan 07 09:32:27 <fxspec06_> no. some of the code is though, i have to release it at some point i think
Jan 07 09:34:07 <fxspec06_> okay then. email app i can work on. what needs to be done to the enyo1 version?
Jan 07 09:34:21 <fxspec06_> i can't think very well right now, maybe this should put on hold
Jan 07 09:34:57 <ka6sox> talk to us when you are awake...4:34am is not the time to be discussing this :D
Jan 07 09:35:08 <morphis> fxspec06_: you have a gnexus or nexus7 with owo running?
Jan 07 09:35:28 <morphis> fxspec06_: but please take the sleep you need :)
Jan 07 09:36:03 <fxspec06_> morphis: from what i'm working on and doing with Neo, i hope to be able to take from it a massive working themes extention which hopefully will be easy to implement into other apps. when that works, which it will, it will be VERY cool. and easy to add on to "other" applications..
Jan 07 09:36:22 <morphis> nice
Jan 07 09:36:24 <fxspec06_> and no, i don't unfortunately
Jan 07 09:36:45 <ka6sox> this can be tested on a TP right?
Jan 07 09:37:19 <morphis> ka6sox: it can but don't highlight the problems we have
Jan 07 09:37:29 <fxspec06_> yes
Jan 07 09:37:43 <ka6sox> right because it is the "correct" size
Jan 07 09:37:49 <ka6sox> hmmm...
Jan 07 09:38:27 <morphis> maybe it's possible to do this within the emulator
Jan 07 09:39:44 <fxspec06_> ka6sox: great things happen at 4am for me.... http://i.imgur.com/UrwUS.png anyways, thanks guys. means a lot to be able to be part of this
Jan 07 09:40:35 <ka6sox> :)...looking forward to getting things fixed and pretty!
Jan 07 09:40:51 <ka6sox> I will ask the graphics folks for higher res graphics for email client
Jan 07 09:41:37 <fxspec06_> me too! :D seeing how nobody else is, and i can, and i <3 it, why not ;)
Jan 07 09:41:52 <ka6sox> works for me!
Jan 07 09:43:34 <fxspec06_> so, you are an official 'team' then.. i'm on the daily mailing list now
Jan 07 09:43:53 <ka6sox> kk..thanks
Jan 07 09:44:24 <ka6sox> please let folks know you will be working on this.
Jan 07 09:44:41 <fxspec06_> okay, i will do that
Jan 07 09:45:52 <fxspec06_> for now, i think i am going to go sleep for a bit. think i need it. have a good one
Jan 07 09:50:12 <ka6sox> nite fxspec06_
Jan 07 19:33:57 <EricBlade> greetings from Nevada air space
Jan 07 19:35:46 <JaMa> did you forget something in area51? :)
Jan 07 19:37:51 <PatrickC|School> lol
Jan 07 19:37:54 <PatrickC|School> hey EricBlade
Jan 07 19:39:13 <EricBlade> no, apparently with all the traffic going to nevada, my plane to chicago then to cali got diverted to go through las vegas
Jan 07 19:39:36 <scoutcamper> EricBlade, going to CES?
Jan 07 19:39:46 <EricBlade> nope heading to the office
Jan 07 19:39:54 <EricBlade> ok time to put the lappy away. bbl
Jan 07 19:39:54 <scoutcamper> i *almost* went to CES this year.....
Jan 07 19:40:53 <BHSPiMonkey> Hi all. Anyone know if the current Nexus 7 port is friendly with CM10.1? I notice that my device doesn't have a "/storage/sdcard0" directory
Jan 07 19:41:18 <BHSPiMonkey> (Mine uses /storage/emulated/0)
Jan 07 19:41:34 <scoutcamper> we have not tested with CM10.1
Jan 07 19:42:17 <morphis> BHSPiMonkey: it should have a /storage/sdcard0
Jan 07 19:42:29 <morphis> BHSPiMonkey: that depends on wether you're logged in as root or not
Jan 07 19:42:52 <BHSPiMonkey> Nope. I have /storage/emulated and /storage/usbdisk
Jan 07 19:43:05 <morphis> BHSPiMonkey: but it should work if you replace /storage/sdcard0 with /storage/emulated/0
Jan 07 19:43:08 <BHSPiMonkey> /storage/emulated contains '0', '10', and 'legacy'
Jan 07 19:43:20 <morphis> yeah
Jan 07 19:43:29 <morphis> 0 is the userdata directory for the first user
Jan 07 19:43:32 <morphis> and 10 for the second one
Jan 07 19:44:05 <BHSPiMonkey> yep
Jan 07 19:44:10 <fxspec06> jama: area51 doesn't ACTUALLY exist........ you can't even see anything there from a plane. it's just, an illusion =P
Jan 07 19:45:18 <BHSPiMonkey> morphis: so what happens when webos tries to access /storage/sdcard0 and it doesn't exist? Should I throw a symlink up?
Jan 07 19:45:21 <fxspec06> i'd bet, if you flew in a plane, and ever got close to see "land" or "something" there, it'd be cloaked or masqueraded somehow, and your eyes would deceive you.
Jan 07 19:45:48 * fxspec06 whoops wrong room
Jan 07 19:46:06 <JaMa> fxspec06: I was flying a lot over Nevada in GTA4 and I can confirm it exists! I even have nice rocket backpack from there
Jan 07 19:46:07 <morphis> BHSPiMonkey: it's not relevant for the boot process
Jan 07 19:46:07 <BHSPiMonkey> fxspec06: I was slightly confused :P
Jan 07 19:47:20 <fxspec06> lol.. i mean, i thought this was offtopic room. didn't look
Jan 07 19:47:44 <JaMa> now it is, thanks to you :)
Jan 07 19:47:46 <BHSPiMonkey> I was also going to ask if anyone had tried using Multiboot with webos, but I don't think the port is to that point
Jan 07 19:48:24 <BHSPiMonkey> I've been using it to dual-boot Android and Ubuntu and it's pretty slick
Jan 07 19:48:59 <scoutcamper> BHSPiMonkey, someone (Rafase282) was working on multiboot
Jan 07 19:49:06 <BHSPiMonkey> Nice!
Jan 07 19:49:28 <ShiftyAxel> iirc it worked, but the touchscreen calibration was off
Jan 07 19:49:34 <scoutcamper> but working on does not equal "it will work"
Jan 07 19:49:42 <BHSPiMonkey> Right
Jan 07 19:50:03 <ShiftyAxel> this is true, it hasn't had anything close to extensive testing- it was one guy who popped in the other day
Jan 07 19:52:41 <BHSPiMonkey> ShiftyAxel: I know there's an issue with Ubuntu in Portrait mode where the touch events are all transformed 90-degrees
Jan 07 19:53:13 <ShiftyAxel> I think he was reporting something different, the touchpoints were being offset by a certain amount
Jan 07 19:53:20 <BHSPiMonkey> Ah
Jan 07 19:53:26 <BHSPiMonkey> Strange
Jan 07 20:01:03 <BHSPiMonkey> scoutcamper: your handle related to BSA Scouting?
Jan 07 20:01:47 <scoutcamper> somewhat, yes
Jan 07 20:02:31 <BHSPiMonkey> Nice. I'm an Eagle, and kind of ashamed that on first glance your nick made me think about Team Fortress 2.
Jan 07 20:03:02 <BHSPiMonkey> Sorry, I'll stop being OT
Jan 07 20:03:17 <scoutcamper> i am also an eagle. but yes, the nick has many meanings :P
Jan 07 20:05:53 <ShiftyAxel> I always assumed it was something to do with PC gaming
Jan 07 20:38:39 <ka6sox> what do we know eh?
Jan 08 00:22:35 <BHSPiMonkey> stroughtonsmith: long time no see
Jan 08 00:22:55 <stroughtonsmith> I'm always around in some form
Jan 08 01:24:29 <tmcgee> has anyone thought about locking down wiki registrations?
Jan 08 01:25:04 <tmcgee> this list seems a bit long and spammy: http://webos-ports.org/wiki/Special:Log/newusers
Jan 08 01:25:42 <ka6sox> yes,
Jan 08 01:25:50 <ka6sox> probably going to do that today
Jan 08 01:25:50 <ShiftyAxel> not a lot can be done about it
Jan 08 01:25:55 <ShiftyAxel> oho?
Jan 08 01:26:08 <ka6sox> except make people contact us via the ML or here :P
Jan 08 01:26:27 <ShiftyAxel> sounds like a good plan
Jan 08 01:26:35 <ShiftyAxel> blasted bots
Jan 08 01:27:25 <ka6sox> no, its sweatshops who register and then the bots are supposed to take over...
Jan 08 01:27:36 <ka6sox> but we block that (they get paid by the registration)
Jan 08 01:28:01 <ka6sox> Morning EricBlade
Jan 08 01:28:05 <ShiftyAxel> that comes as a genuine surprise
Jan 08 01:28:07 <ShiftyAxel> morning EricBlade
Jan 08 01:28:12 <EricBlade> me logging in?
Jan 08 01:28:48 <ka6sox> no, I followed you all across country
Jan 08 01:29:03 <EricBlade> that's not a surprise either
Jan 08 01:29:07 <EricBlade> :D
Jan 08 01:29:12 <ka6sox> quite
Jan 08 01:29:13 <ShiftyAxel> he's outside the nearest window doing a kilroy impression
Jan 08 01:29:30 <ka6sox> that would mean he is in the Bushes
Jan 08 01:31:51 * ka6sox looks out he window...and sees NOTHING
Jan 08 01:34:51 <ShiftyAxel> s/NOTHING/the howling void/
Jan 08 01:36:56 <ka6sox> see..I'm not crazy either... http://www.flickr.com/photos/68099814@N00/8358674647/in/photostream
Jan 08 01:36:59 <ka6sox> zebras!
Jan 08 01:38:11 <ShiftyAxel> newspaper horse!
Jan 08 01:41:27 <EricBlade> unfortunately, we now have all of the blinds on all of the windows closed.
Jan 08 01:41:42 <ka6sox> ooooh....
Jan 08 01:41:45 <ka6sox> stealth mode :D
Jan 08 01:41:52 <scoutcamper> screen glare :P
Jan 08 01:46:36 <ka6sox> lets see if this works: http://www.webos-ports.org/wiki/WallpaperContest
Jan 08 01:47:33 <EricBlade> ka6sox: yeah probably screen glare.  the last week i was in here, it was horrrrrrribbbbbuuuullllllll
Jan 08 01:50:08 <ka6sox> yup
Jan 08 01:50:24 <ka6sox> stop sitting in the cheap seats.
Jan 08 01:58:16 <HaDAk_> ka6sox, scoutcamper, LarrySteeze ... one of you guys wanna promote my wiki account so i can submit backgrounds?
Jan 08 01:58:53 <scoutcamper> certainly
Jan 08 01:58:59 <HaDAk_> thanks
Jan 08 01:58:59 <scoutcamper> what is your wiki username?
Jan 08 01:59:04 <HaDAk_> HaDAk
Jan 08 01:59:22 <ka6sox> I should put the minimum size for this
Jan 08 01:59:44 <scoutcamper> HaDAk_, i dont see that name....
Jan 08 01:59:57 <HaDAk_> i'm logged in as it right now
Jan 08 02:00:13 <ka6sox> ShiftyAxel, what is the size of the N7?
Jan 08 02:00:16 <HaDAk_> http://www.webos-ports.org/wiki/User:HaDAk
Jan 08 02:00:33 <ShiftyAxel> ka6sox: 1280x800
Jan 08 02:00:33 <HaDAk_> ka6sox: you want bigger than 1280x720? i shoot 18mp
Jan 08 02:00:39 <scoutcamper> got it
Jan 08 02:00:46 <scoutcamper> silly caps lock sensetive
Jan 08 02:02:15 <scoutcamper> HaDAk_, promoted
Jan 08 02:02:20 <HaDAk_> thanks
Jan 08 02:04:07 <ka6sox> HaDAk_, needs to be good in both Landscape and Portrait
Jan 08 02:07:40 <ShiftyAxel> big and square is preferred
Jan 08 02:09:25 <HaDAk_> well, which is it? 1280x720 or "big and squared"?
Jan 08 02:12:43 <ka6sox> 720 will be "stretched"
Jan 08 02:12:58 <ka6sox> better to be bigger (at least 1280X1280)
Jan 08 02:14:03 <ka6sox> okay fixed
Jan 08 02:15:14 <ShiftyAxel> HaDAk_: N7 is 1280x800
Jan 08 02:16:31 <ka6sox> since it will most likely be used landscape a lot...and the phone portrait....1280X1280 min is a good "minimum guideline"
Jan 08 02:21:51 <HaDAk_> will it be an issue if i try to submit them all as HaDAk.jpg?
Jan 08 02:22:05 <HaDAk_> or does it store them as blobs?
Jan 08 02:22:36 <scoutcamper> they need to be HaDAk-1, HaDAk-2, etc
Jan 08 02:22:48 <ka6sox> I am doing my new ones as ka6sox_iceplant.png
Jan 08 02:23:01 <ka6sox> oh we should specify that we want PNG too :D
Jan 08 02:23:08 <HaDAk_> goddammit
Jan 08 02:23:09 <HaDAk_> :|
Jan 08 02:23:16 <ka6sox> iirc the others are png
Jan 08 02:23:32 <scoutcamper> ShiftyAxel, do you recall?
Jan 08 02:23:53 <ka6sox> HaDAk its 1 button :P
Jan 08 02:24:04 <HaDAk_> no, it's not. lightroom doesn't export as png
Jan 08 02:24:26 <HaDAk_> you get jpg. -.-
Jan 08 02:24:33 <HaDAk_> IF you like one (or more) you can have them in png.
Jan 08 02:24:34 <HaDAk_> fair?
Jan 08 02:24:44 <ka6sox> fair
Jan 08 02:24:54 <ka6sox> (assuming they display correctly)
Jan 08 02:25:15 <HaDAk_> well, i haven't tested these on my tablet. they may need minor adjustments.
Jan 08 02:26:17 <HaDAk_> nice 503 error -.-
Jan 08 02:26:33 <ka6sox> what url are you using?
Jan 08 02:26:40 <HaDAk_> i was uploading.
Jan 08 02:26:55 <HaDAk_> now i'm trying to load http://www.webos-ports.org/wiki/Special:Upload
Jan 08 02:26:58 <ka6sox> scoutcamper might have been making an adjustment
Jan 08 02:27:11 <scoutcamper> not i
Jan 08 02:27:36 <HaDAk_> it keeps blowing up
Jan 08 02:28:39 <HaDAk_> you might wanna check /var/log/varnish/*log
Jan 08 02:29:02 * scoutcamper looks
Jan 08 02:30:51 <scoutcamper> HaDAk_, there is nothing in there about filed uploads
Jan 08 02:30:59 <scoutcamper> and i just checked, i can upload fine
Jan 08 02:31:16 <HaDAk_> i'm still getting 503 errors whenever trying to load -any- webos-ports.org page
Jan 08 02:31:16 <ShiftyAxel> scoutcamper, HaDAk_: Ow uses .png for all it's graphics
Jan 08 02:31:31 <HaDAk_> Error 503 Service Unavailable
Jan 08 02:31:31 <HaDAk_> Service Unavailable
Jan 08 02:31:31 <HaDAk_> Guru Meditation:
Jan 08 02:31:31 <HaDAk_> XID: 1793622065
Jan 08 02:31:51 <HaDAk_> ShiftyAxel: i'm not disputing that. i'm only saying, it's a pain in my ass to give you png, especially if they don't get 'picked'
Jan 08 02:31:57 <ShiftyAxel> uh-oh, looks like we need an amiga doctor in the house
Jan 08 02:32:00 <HaDAk_> ShiftyAxel: if you like em, you can have em
Jan 08 02:32:20 <ShiftyAxel> and I never said I was disputing, scoutcamper asked me if I recalled
Jan 08 02:32:25 <HaDAk_> oh
Jan 08 02:32:26 <scoutcamper> HaDAk_, what os? browser?
Jan 08 02:32:37 <HaDAk_> scoutcamper: it's server side. none of that matters :P
Jan 08 02:33:08 <HaDAk_> aaaaaaand it's back
Jan 08 02:33:34 <scoutcamper> HaDAk_, i assure you it was not server side, i went through all of the server logs.
Jan 08 02:33:53 <HaDAk_> browsers don't spit out error logs that complain about varnish cache :P
Jan 08 02:34:10 * HaDAk_ supported the barracuda web filter for a year and knows more than you care to believe about web caches
Jan 08 02:34:50 <scoutcamper> i dont have a good explanation as to why it would work fine for me from 3 different locations(thank you rdp) but not work for you
Jan 08 02:35:53 <HaDAk_> and it's down again
Jan 08 02:36:48 <scoutcamper> wtf??
Jan 08 02:37:00 <scoutcamper> ka6sox, is webos-ports.org working for you?
Jan 08 02:37:04 <scoutcamper> ShiftyAxel, ^^
Jan 08 02:37:28 <ShiftyAxel> yeah, I can browse about fine
Jan 08 02:37:37 <ka6sox> let me try to upload
Jan 08 02:37:38 <ka6sox> jas
Jan 08 02:37:39 <ShiftyAxel> though it's telling me that my files don't match their mime type
Jan 08 02:37:45 <ShiftyAxel> but that may be the image
Jan 08 02:38:18 <ka6sox> Works for me
Jan 08 02:40:05 <scoutcamper> HaDAk_, i ask again, what browser and os?
Jan 08 02:40:22 <HaDAk_> i've tried firefox and ie in windows, chrome in android, and telnet in linux :P
Jan 08 02:40:46 <scoutcamper> this makes no sense
Jan 08 02:41:39 <scoutcamper> ive been watching the varnish and apache logs,  havent seen a single error
Jan 08 02:41:58 <scoutcamper> HaDAk_, i assume you have done a cache buster refresh?
Jan 08 02:42:20 <HaDAk_> i tried IE. i've never even opened IE. cache doesn't get much more fresh than that :P
Jan 08 02:42:48 <ka6sox> windows8?
Jan 08 02:42:53 <HaDAk_> 7
Jan 08 02:43:06 <HaDAk_> i cleared again. it's loading... going to try my uploads again.
Jan 08 02:43:11 <HaDAk_> we'll see if i can crash it again :P
Jan 08 02:43:34 <scoutcamper> if you crash it again i swear you are chanting incantations over your pc
Jan 08 02:43:44 <scoutcamper> :P
Jan 08 02:44:29 <HaDAk_> it has died again.
Jan 08 02:44:42 <HaDAk_> trying to load http://www.webos-ports.org/wiki/File:HaDAk-moon.jpg and upload my next photo at the same time.
Jan 08 02:44:46 <HaDAk_> both died.
Jan 08 02:45:17 <HaDAk_> may wanna just restart the service.
Jan 08 02:45:23 <HaDAk_> there are probably core dumps all over the damn place
Jan 08 02:45:45 * scoutcamper will reboot varnish and apache2
Jan 08 02:45:48 <scoutcamper> one moment
Jan 08 02:46:21 <ka6sox> it worked perfectly for me
Jan 08 02:46:26 <ka6sox> http://www.webos-ports.org/wiki/WallpaperContest
Jan 08 02:46:30 <scoutcamper> HaDAk_, its restarted now
Jan 08 02:46:31 <ka6sox> second "entry"
Jan 08 02:47:34 <HaDAk_> Error creating thumbnail: convert: Memory allocation failed `Cannot allocate memory' @ cache.c/AcquirePixelCacheNexus/261.
Jan 08 02:48:20 <scoutcamper> what resolution are you uploading at?
Jan 08 02:48:27 <HaDAk_> it's 503'ing again
Jan 08 02:48:34 <HaDAk_> 1280x1280x72
Jan 08 02:50:01 <ka6sox> since its working for ME perfectly I'm going to say you have a problem with your router :p
Jan 08 02:50:14 <ka6sox> (and I am just like any other user on this)
Jan 08 02:50:14 <HaDAk_> don't you dare pull that shit with me. you ought to know better.
Jan 08 02:50:32 <HaDAk_> i work on your ISP's ISP's network all day long.
Jan 08 02:50:36 <ka6sox> dude...its working fine...I am uploading a 3rd pic now
Jan 08 02:51:08 <HaDAk_> then upload these. http://localhostr.com/files/nnP7p4Z/webOS%20backgrounds.zip
Jan 08 02:51:10 <ka6sox> then tell me why it doesn't like you...and I am outside the FW where everyone else is.
Jan 08 02:51:20 <ka6sox> scoutcamper, did you reboot it?
Jan 08 02:51:26 <scoutcamper> yes i did
Jan 08 02:51:31 <ka6sox> grrrr
Jan 08 02:51:31 <ShiftyAxel> I'm goanna say three successes vs one faliure = local issue
Jan 08 02:51:31 <HaDAk_> dunno. i don't have access to the box to troubleshoot :P
Jan 08 02:51:50 <HaDAk_> you can say local issue all day long, but the server error message kicked back each time proves otherwise
Jan 08 02:52:00 <HaDAk_> just because *you* don't know what the issue is, doesn't mean it's *my* issue.
Jan 08 02:52:02 <ka6sox> wait..I failed on #3 (because of the reboot)
Jan 08 02:52:03 <ka6sox> brb....
Jan 08 02:52:15 <HaDAk_> that's the most flawed logic.
Jan 08 02:52:16 <scoutcamper> HaDAk_, can i get  screenshot of the error?
Jan 08 02:52:23 <PatrickC> can we distribute the uImage from the doctor?
Jan 08 02:52:31 <ShiftyAxel> as is 'it's not working for me therefore it's broken'
Jan 08 02:52:43 <ShiftyAxel> also, we now have a fully-crisp lockscreen: https://twitter.com/shiftyaxel/status/288477702351101952
Jan 08 02:52:53 <ka6sox> PatrickC, why not just use the one from the preware feed?
Jan 08 02:52:53 <HaDAk_> no, as in "it's kicking a server error, therefore it's broken"
Jan 08 02:53:02 <PatrickC> ka6sox: it's in the preware feed?
Jan 08 02:53:14 <PatrickC> O_o
Jan 08 02:53:14 <ka6sox> yes, its the "recovery" kernel
Jan 08 02:53:17 <scoutcamper> HaDAk_, im happy to keep digging, but i would like a screenshot so i can see the error for myself
Jan 08 02:53:32 <ShiftyAxel> PatrickC: I believe distributing bits of a webOS doctor isn't allowed unless it's the entire doctor
Jan 08 02:53:34 <HaDAk_> don't touch a thing
Jan 08 02:53:37 <ka6sox> scoutcamper,  do NOT reboot right now
Jan 08 02:53:38 <HaDAk_> it's uploading
Jan 08 02:53:40 <HaDAk_> don't fucking do anything
Jan 08 02:53:44 <scoutcamper> lol
Jan 08 02:53:50 <ka6sox> don't touch it :p
Jan 08 02:53:57 <ShiftyAxel> right, i'm going to bed
Jan 08 02:54:02 <ShiftyAxel> you guys have fun with the wiki :P
Jan 08 02:54:05 <ka6sox> nite shifty
Jan 08 02:54:09 <ka6sox> heh
Jan 08 02:54:11 <HaDAk_> wait. i think it's broken again.
Jan 08 02:54:12 <HaDAk_> :|
Jan 08 02:54:20 <ka6sox> nobody touched it
Jan 08 02:54:27 <ka6sox> and its *still* working for me.
Jan 08 02:54:44 * scoutcamper literally stepped away from his pc
Jan 08 02:54:56 <HaDAk_> it is -not- working for me
Jan 08 02:54:57 <scoutcamper> oh
Jan 08 02:55:00 <scoutcamper> holy crap
Jan 08 02:55:04 <scoutcamper> i just got the error
Jan 08 02:55:08 <HaDAk_> DURP
Jan 08 02:55:12 <HaDAk_> http://localhostr.com/files/nUy1hoV/503%20Service%20Unavailable%20-%20Windows%20Interne.png
Jan 08 02:55:13 <scoutcamper> it is on our end ka6sox
Jan 08 02:55:17 <ka6sox> windows users ;P
Jan 08 02:55:22 <HaDAk_> ffs. thank you.
Jan 08 02:55:30 <ka6sox> FFL ty
Jan 08 02:55:46 <HaDAk_> next time, trust me when i say "i have a shitload of experience with EXACTLY THIS"
Jan 08 02:56:23 <ka6sox> I cna't say other than I've uploaded from both Linux and Mac and no issues....at all
Jan 08 02:56:29 <ka6sox> 2 Windows users....FAIL.
Jan 08 02:56:42 <HaDAk_> well, lemme just pop on my mac at work and try then :|
Jan 08 02:56:49 <scoutcamper> ka6sox, i got this error on my ubuntu vm
Jan 08 02:57:00 <HaDAk_> baw, teamviewer is offline there -.-
Jan 08 02:57:10 <scoutcamper> it is truly a varnish issue
Jan 08 02:57:15 <scoutcamper> i just havent seen it ever
Jan 08 02:57:57 <ka6sox> yes, I agree its a varnish issue
Jan 08 02:58:16 <ka6sox> when cryptk wakes up we can ping him...he knows this best
Jan 08 02:59:03 <ka6sox> I know what it is...it doesn't like .jpg's </tongue firmly planted in cheek>
**** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Jan 08 02:59:58 2013