**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Jan 10 03:00:00 2013 Jan 10 03:16:45 do I need to Pimp the Contest? Jan 10 03:18:57 depending on where you are eric, it's probably not more than a 6hr drive! (or a $79 o/w southwest) Jan 10 03:43:41 unfortunately, i doubt i'll be able to make that .. unless the company sends me. :D Jan 10 03:43:49 i'll see you all in the morning. Jan 10 13:38:10 Just installed LunaCE, when I activate Tweaks and turn on a tweak, I get "Configuration could not be saved since the service returned and error" Jan 10 13:38:26 have I missed a step? Jan 10 14:03:57 GranPaSmurf: do you have the service installed? Jan 10 14:21:40 I guess not...Thanks, I went back to WOSQI and found/installed service. no error message, exploring Tweaks now, again, thanks Jan 10 14:47:21 :) Jan 10 17:33:32 heyho Jan 10 17:42:31 hey morphis Jan 10 17:42:41 moo Jan 10 19:08:16 EricBlade: why https://github.com/openwebos/webappmanager/commit/a08b4bc8aa68953c6098910518cf7e66b8a9f532 is needed? Jan 10 19:09:01 morphis: without it, i couldn't build for any devices Jan 10 19:09:55 or, rather, i could build, but webappmanager would complain about not being able to access some libraries or other Jan 10 19:10:00 i think that was it Jan 10 19:10:23 EricBlade: it leads into something like this: WARNING: QA Issue: package webappmanager contains bad RPATH /usr/lib:/home/morphis/data/oe/webos-ports-setup/webos-ports/tmp-eglibc/sysroots/tuna/usr/lib in file /home/morphis/data/oe/webos-ports-setup/webos-ports/tmp-eglibc/work/tuna-webos-linux-gnueabi/webappmanager-3.0.0-1.02-r5+wop+gitr1+dd8afee44459cdea77d757f52decb53323035ccd/packages-split/webappmanager/usr/bin/WebAppMgr Jan 10 19:13:27 morphis: hmm. what i remember, is that WebAppMgr told me that I needed to add an rpath to make it able to find it's libs. So, I added the same rpath that was used on emulator, and it started working. Jan 10 19:13:31 ShiftyAxel|Away: you already had time to look at the existing LSM issues? Jan 10 19:13:53 JaMa|Off: ^^ Jan 10 19:14:49 i do see a similar bad rpath in luna-sysmgr right now Jan 10 19:14:51 JaMa|Off, EricBlade: STAGING_LIBDIR looks wrong to me as part of rpath Jan 10 19:14:54 yes Jan 10 19:15:07 I was wondering for this too Jan 10 19:15:24 as libdir should be default and there should be no need for additional rpath Jan 10 19:15:28 it totally does seem like that's the entirely wrong thing to have there, but it got it working Jan 10 19:16:23 morphis: i seem to recall that whatever it was it was complaining about was located in usr/lib but by default it only searches lib. or the other way around. Jan 10 19:16:53 EricBlade: for the desktop build I might be ok Jan 10 19:17:04 but for OE based builds it's wrong in my eyes Jan 10 19:17:39 i would tend to agree that it's not right, but it functions, whereas it did not prior Jan 10 19:17:46 yes Jan 10 19:17:56 EricBlade: can you line this up for further investigation? Jan 10 19:18:06 EricBlade: maybe JaMa|Off can comment on this too Jan 10 19:18:36 there are many bad RPATHs in webos-image build Jan 10 19:18:52 RPATH to sysroot doesn't help in binaries built by OE Jan 10 19:19:18 so as long as those binaries work, this RPATH shouln't be needed Jan 10 19:19:21 that's exactly why i don't understand why making that change caused the thing to work Jan 10 19:19:59 and didn't that change add not only sysroot path but also that /usr/lib before it? Jan 10 19:20:36 not unless STAGING_LIBDIR has multiple paths in it Jan 10 19:21:31 oe-core/meta/conf/bitbake.conf:360:STAGING_LIBDIR = "${STAGING_DIR_HOST}${libdir}" Jan 10 19:21:33 I'll paste list of RPATH related QA issues as my build from scratch is finishing now Jan 10 19:21:45 EricBlade: it's only the one Jan 10 19:21:55 but it's in almost every webos component, qt4, webkit, lsm, .. Jan 10 19:22:59 JaMa|Off: yes all components that are using qmake ... Jan 10 19:26:28 and doesn't happend with oe-core qmake :) Jan 10 19:28:10 There's a lot of questionable things in the qmake configurations. A lot of that may stem from people who were not very familiar with qmake maintaining things, or from some of these packages having been built originally using whatever qmake was used for webOS 1 (assuming qmake was used back then) Jan 10 19:29:55 and of course, the customizations to qmake which do .. whatever the heck those customizations do Jan 10 19:36:58 Morning all Jan 10 19:41:00 Hi all, Jan 10 19:44:27 p00f Jan 10 19:49:42 EricBlade: morphis: RPATH and strip issues in webos-image http://paste.debian.net/223516/ Jan 10 19:52:35 ka6sox-away: my bulldozer on powersave governor 2 8 12885.83 6814.08 42644.69 383% 19316337 50811032 1872362818 10802 15842048 1 Jan 10 19:55:36 interesting http://lists.qt-project.org/pipermail/qt-components/2013-January/000126.html Jan 10 20:01:53 JaMa|Off: yeah why aren't we involved there? my guess is a lot of it being that the people involved aren't even aware of our existence. Jan 10 20:03:12 I guess the same Jan 10 20:05:58 i just sent that link to someone on my end, dunno who else might be interested in it Jan 10 20:06:36 at least we in jolla know you guys exist Jan 10 20:06:37 :P Jan 10 20:07:22 so we don't get an invite to the qt5/qml party? is that because we don't have qt5 in public implementation yet? :P Jan 10 20:08:35 well, it started out in #active irc channel as random conversation ;) but i didn't actually know you have a set of qml components Jan 10 20:09:47 we.. um.. don't. yet. Jan 10 20:10:26 I think that would be something that heeen could intelligently discuss. I would be useless. Jan 10 20:10:38 :nod: join in the convo on mailing list Jan 10 20:12:26 JaMa|Off: thanks for that c/p list. maybe i can have a look at some of those soon Jan 10 20:15:29 JaMa|Off: interestingly, i'm not seeing any of those QA errors in the qt4-webos package using 4.8.3-4 Jan 10 20:19:01 EricBlade: and never seen them before? I see them since first webOS build Jan 10 20:24:46 i don't recall seeing a big string of them like that before, i'm just passing the qt4 build on the build that i'm doing right now, and it hasn't spit any QA errors out on it yet .. maybe after it's done with the qmake build Jan 10 20:25:05 i'll have a poke at jenkins and see Jan 10 20:27:42 i see a prior build using 4.8.2.03-1.02 had a bunch of "contains probably redundant RPATH /usr/lib" Jan 10 20:29:20 EricBlade: the exact message in warning can be different as we're using newer oe-core Jan 10 20:30:06 difference being that you're getting a ...sysroots/... path and i'm seeing just usr/lib Jan 10 20:30:59 EricBlade: you can see them in build-webos-from-meta-webos-preview-head jenkins job Jan 10 20:31:11 EricBlade: which is closer to webos-ports builds Jan 11 00:44:42 folks Jan 11 01:22:01 is there a bitbake thing that will tell me "why the hell are you building that package"? Jan 11 01:22:44 ie i want to know why when i do a make image, what package is triggering a particular package that i don't want built to be built Jan 11 01:38:50 EricBlade: bitbake -g can list the dependencies of a package, is this you want? Jan 11 01:56:36 EricBlade: use this script before updating metadata http://git.openembedded.org/openembedded-core/tree/scripts/sstate-diff-machines.sh Jan 11 01:56:44 EricBlade: then run it again and compare list.M files Jan 11 01:57:04 EricBlade: you have to copy this script from master, because it's not in old oe-core used in webos Jan 11 01:58:55 panda-z: that sounds like something that is like what iw ant **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Jan 11 02:59:58 2013