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Aug 04 09:07:16 <Herrie> JaMa/Morphis-> Wouldn't it be logical to rename meta-smartphone to something else like meta-devices or ... since it doesn't only cover smartphones anymore but also tablets (and possibly future other devices like watches ;))?
Aug 04 09:10:05 <JaMa> Herrie: it also covers distribution for smartphones
Aug 04 09:10:33 <JaMa> Herrie: renaming it would cause more pain then gain IMHO so I would prefer to keep the name
Aug 04 09:13:04 <Herrie> OK, I was just wondering ;) Since I saw the Grouper in there which isn't a smartphone, might be something to do when there are no other things to do anymore ;)
Aug 04 09:15:16 <Herrie> There are tons of more important things to do, I fully agree with that ;) Not wasting time on these small things for now :)
Aug 04 09:15:51 <stefan_schmidt> Herrie: the thing is that meta-smartphone was started before webos-ports and other distros and projects use it
Aug 04 09:16:02 <stefan_schmidt> Changing the name would cause pain to all of them
Aug 04 09:23:59 <Herrie> Ah ok, I don't know the background, already thought something like this, just looked a bit odd to me that's all so I though to ask :)
Aug 04 10:20:39 <stefan_schmidt> Garfonso: ping
Aug 04 10:20:50 <Garfonso> ah, hi. ;)
Aug 04 10:20:57 <stefan_schmidt> Garfonso: you have a moment?
Aug 04 10:21:10 <Garfonso> yes
Aug 04 10:21:16 <stefan_schmidt> Garfonso: cool
Aug 04 10:21:33 <stefan_schmidt> I'm stuck at the popScene to get back to the account manager right now
Aug 04 10:21:50 <stefan_schmidt> What works so far is calling into the custum ui scene in my app
Aug 04 10:22:17 <stefan_schmidt> showing the UI, calling back into the service to verify auth and come back into the app
Aug 04 10:22:33 <stefan_schmidt> Now I only would need to popScene with the result, right?
Aug 04 10:23:06 <stefan_schmidt> You code seem to have some own account handling (i guess for using it as standalone app only?)?
Aug 04 10:23:09 <Garfonso> yes
Aug 04 10:23:15 <stefan_schmidt> hmm
Aug 04 10:23:24 <Garfonso> no, the account handling needs to be done
Aug 04 10:23:44 <stefan_schmidt> Error: Cannot read property 'initialTemplate' of undefined, line undefined,
Aug 04 10:23:58 <Garfonso> the standalone app is not really the issue.. actually it just calls sevice callbacks as the rest of webos does.
Aug 04 10:24:02 <stefan_schmidt> I gte this while I checked that I get initialTemplate when getting called
Aug 04 10:24:17 <stefan_schmidt> put it into this.params but now it has trouble to read it
Aug 04 10:24:37 <stefan_schmidt> ok, maybe I got a bit confused by the code here
Aug 04 10:24:58 <Garfonso> ok, wait a moment. Need to get into that part of the code a bit..
Aug 04 10:25:05 <stefan_schmidt> sure, thanks
Aug 04 10:25:20 * stefan_schmidt mumbles something about the poor docs on custom UI
Aug 04 10:25:48 <Garfonso> yeah.. I reverse engineered that from the e-mail app.. ;)
Aug 04 10:25:53 <stefan_schmidt> ouch
Aug 04 10:26:20 <stefan_schmidt> no wonder synergy connectors never really came along
Aug 04 10:26:33 <Garfonso> you are doing this.params = params; in the assistant constructor?
Aug 04 10:26:37 <stefan_schmidt> yes
Aug 04 10:27:11 <stefan_schmidt> but everytime I want to access initialTemplate it can not read it
Aug 04 10:27:28 <Garfonso> is this happening in callbacks?
Aug 04 10:28:17 <Garfonso> you know about the issue of "this" and callbacks in JS? Or "binding" and stuff? ;)
Aug 04 10:29:09 <stefan_schmidt> I know nothing about it :)
Aug 04 10:29:12 <Garfonso> like for example: credFuture.then(this, function (f) {...  the "this" as first param tells the Future-framework to use "this" also during the callback as "this".
Aug 04 10:29:21 <Garfonso> you'll need to do something like that.
Aug 04 10:29:29 <stefan_schmidt> hmm
Aug 04 10:29:43 <Garfonso> usually you add ".bind(this)" to where you define the callback. Always.
Aug 04 10:29:43 <stefan_schmidt> To much magic for a plain c coder it seems ;)
Aug 04 10:30:19 <stefan_schmidt> actually its not in a callback
Aug 04 10:30:25 <stefan_schmidt> mom, I paste some code
Aug 04 10:30:32 <Garfonso> hm. do you have code? ;)
Aug 04 10:31:15 <stefan_schmidt> http://pastebin.com/v621aDgu
Aug 04 10:31:33 <stefan_schmidt> That does the call inot the service to verify auth
Aug 04 10:31:42 <stefan_schmidt> comes back
Aug 04 10:32:02 <stefan_schmidt> its all a bit messy :)
Aug 04 10:33:24 <Garfonso> ok. to make things clear: the credFuture.then-part means that it in fact is a callback. Which makes sense, because you call the service and need to wait for it to complete and then get the callback.
Aug 04 10:33:56 <Garfonso> this is not so obvious, because I was using the futures-framework which takes a bit of the nasty work away.
Aug 04 10:34:03 <stefan_schmidt> Garfonso: but isn't this all sync and waits for the return?
Aug 04 10:34:09 <Garfonso> nope
Aug 04 10:34:13 <stefan_schmidt> oh
Aug 04 10:34:19 <stefan_schmidt> that explains some things
Aug 04 10:34:41 <Garfonso> code that contains a "call" usually is async in js. ;)
Aug 04 10:34:44 <stefan_schmidt> its written down like sync but in fact is async callback stuff
Aug 04 10:34:53 <stefan_schmidt> oh man, a whole new world
Aug 04 10:34:56 <Garfonso> yes, that is what the future-framework helps with
Aug 04 10:35:04 <stefan_schmidt> "helps" :)
Aug 04 10:35:29 <stefan_schmidt> real callback functions have been fine so far for me ;)
Aug 04 10:35:29 <Garfonso> otherwise you'd have to define the callback before the call, i.e. write the code in reverse. ;)
Aug 04 10:36:00 <stefan_schmidt> yeah, old dogs, new tricks...
Aug 04 10:37:29 <stefan_schmidt> How could I have ever have thought this can't be to hard? Famous last words. ;)
Aug 04 10:37:46 <stefan_schmidt> Garfonso: Better spend your time on something else now
Aug 04 10:38:00 <Garfonso> hm.. but it should work.. can't see a mistake there
Aug 04 10:38:05 <stefan_schmidt> Garfonso: I'm going to clean all this customUI code up a bit and will push it to a branch
Aug 04 10:38:14 <Garfonso> k
Aug 04 10:38:25 <stefan_schmidt> always better to look at the whole code
Aug 04 10:38:38 <stefan_schmidt> But I have so nasty hacks in there :)
Aug 04 10:38:49 <Garfonso> yes, probably the error is somewhere else.
Aug 04 10:39:05 <Garfonso> that's what c-coders do, isn't it. :P
Aug 04 10:39:06 <stefan_schmidt> Garfonso: most likely in front of the laptop :)
Aug 04 10:39:17 <stefan_schmidt> woa, woa
Aug 04 10:39:45 <Garfonso> did you decide on a webdav lib, jet?
Aug 04 10:39:48 <stefan_schmidt> nope
Aug 04 10:40:05 <stefan_schmidt> http://johnnydebris.net/projects/branches/davclient.js-nodommer/doc/davclient.html
Aug 04 10:40:11 <stefan_schmidt> is most likely right now
Aug 04 10:40:38 <stefan_schmidt> another thought might be to try doing the small dav subset for fetching the vcards on my own
Aug 04 10:40:45 <stefan_schmidt> but that screams for trouble later
Aug 04 10:40:52 <stefan_schmidt> Not sure I want to go that path
Aug 04 10:41:34 <stefan_schmidt> btw, I was surprised to see that synergy has a task kind
Aug 04 10:41:38 <Garfonso> hehe.. better have someone to parse the status codes for you.
Aug 04 10:41:48 <stefan_schmidt> sad that they don't have a tasks app to use them :)
Aug 04 10:41:59 <Garfonso> sure it has. This is what goes into the todo app.
Aug 04 10:42:13 <Garfonso> there is at least one synergy connector that can sync into the task app
Aug 04 10:42:19 <stefan_schmidt> yeah, would also prefer to get a simple file listing and hand the list ov vcards over
Aug 04 10:42:20 <Garfonso> IIRC it was for remember the milk
Aug 04 10:42:42 <stefan_schmidt> hmm, there is a todo app?
Aug 04 10:42:51 <stefan_schmidt> stock webos todo app?
Aug 04 10:42:56 * stefan_schmidt is confused
Aug 04 10:43:53 <Garfonso> to solve the confusion: it is only on the phones.
Aug 04 10:44:09 <stefan_schmidt> ok, hmm, I wonder how I missed that
Aug 04 10:44:32 <stefan_schmidt> indeed, its on my pre3
Aug 04 10:44:34 <stefan_schmidt> hq
Aug 04 10:44:36 <stefan_schmidt> ha
Aug 04 10:44:39 <Garfonso> ;)
Aug 04 10:44:45 <stefan_schmidt> how could I miss that?
Aug 04 10:45:17 <stefan_schmidt> That means later caldDAV also needs to support VTODO
Aug 04 10:45:22 <stefan_schmidt> good, good
Aug 04 10:45:46 <Garfonso> hehe. Yeah.. that is on my ever growing todo list for the syncml connector, too...
Aug 04 12:00:35 <Herrie> There are some patches for the Tasks app to make it work on 3.x more or less on the WebOSNations forum as well
Aug 04 12:04:02 <Herrie> There are some apps that do task syncing as well like the Remember The Milk Syngery connector, but there are others too now I found out. Cloud Tasks http://niksilver.com/cloud-tasks/ and RTFM http://www.supergigamega.com/rtfm/
Aug 04 12:05:45 <Herrie> Might have some code for you Stefan_Schmidt to look at for inspiration? Seems like Cloud Task is on GitHub :)
Aug 04 12:08:02 <stefan_schmidt> Herrie: thanks
Aug 04 12:08:27 <stefan_schmidt> Herrie: cloud tasks does not provide a synergy connector
Aug 04 12:08:40 <stefan_schmidt> For me it looks like it sync with the website directly from the app
Aug 04 12:08:52 <stefan_schmidt> The second one is not open source?
Aug 04 12:09:15 <Herrie> Could be...
Aug 04 12:09:42 <Herrie> Remember the milk is not open source, but it's free, so you can unpack it and have a look
Aug 04 12:10:28 <stefan_schmidt> well, if they don't make it open source I won't have a look
Aug 04 12:10:34 <stefan_schmidt> Its their decision
Aug 04 12:11:46 <stefan_schmidt> but tasks is far far away :)
Aug 04 12:12:26 <stefan_schmidt> it will come after the basic VEVENT aka calendar events will work
Aug 04 12:12:40 <stefan_schmidt> and that is also far away :)
Aug 04 12:30:45 <Herrie> I know but you have places to look when you need inspiration ;)
Aug 04 12:34:09 <stefan_schmidt> Exactly that is what I want to avoid. I happily take inspiration form other open source projects but not from proprietary ones
Aug 04 12:34:35 <stefan_schmidt> But the other one does not look as if it would integrate with synergy anyway
Aug 04 12:34:57 <stefan_schmidt> and once we have it working for carddav and calddav the tasks part should be straight forward
Aug 04 12:48:35 <Herrie> True and once you have done one, others are easier as well I guess.... :)
Aug 04 13:02:07 <Garfonso> yes. It basically is only a different DB to put the object into.. the sync stuff and so on all stays the same.
Aug 04 13:04:23 <Garfonso> anybody here that has fun in designing gui elements? *sigh*
Aug 04 13:44:11 <stefan_schmidt> *sigh* in the process of cleaning stuff up a bit I did break what I had. So typical :)
Aug 04 13:58:51 <stefan_schmidt> Garfonso: https://github.com/webOS-ports/org.webosports.service.contacts.carddav/tree/custom-validator
Aug 04 13:59:36 <stefan_schmidt> Garfonso: Its a bit more broken now. :) UI shows up but pressing the button does not seem to call into the check Credential function
Aug 04 13:59:45 <stefan_schmidt> no idea how I broke that now
Aug 04 13:59:58 <stefan_schmidt> Garfonso: https://github.com/webOS-ports/org.webosports.service.contacts.carddav/commit/85641d63f8e560b93a0c78d254c9704f7b19ec7a
Aug 04 14:00:15 <stefan_schmidt> You will recognize quite some of your code :)
Aug 04 14:00:24 <stefan_schmidt> Plus some bugs added from me
Aug 04 14:13:14 <JaMa> morphis: I see that qemuarm builds are working again
Aug 04 14:13:30 <JaMa> morphis: only issue with them is that both mesa and libhybris are being pulled into image
Aug 04 14:16:59 <stefan_schmidt> grr, no new error. Just wrong logging
Aug 04 14:17:28 <stefan_schmidt> Garfonso: The pushed code has the same problem we talked about earlier
Aug 04 14:18:00 <stefan_schmidt> Garfonso: nothing broken during the cleanup. Just wrong loging. :(
Aug 04 14:19:08 <JaMa> stefan_schmidt: any news about that weird ca-certificats issue?
Aug 04 14:20:31 <stefan_schmidt> JaMa: Well, I kept my workaround in place and everything build fine with that
Aug 04 14:20:43 <stefan_schmidt> JaMa: Maybe i should try again without it :)
Aug 04 14:20:59 <stefan_schmidt> JaMa: Or to put it differently. Haven't looked further into this.
Aug 04 14:21:31 <stefan_schmidt> Spending my time on the carddav connector so far as I don't have a device yet to run the images on anyway
Aug 04 14:22:39 <stefan_schmidt> Let me stash my workaround and try to rebuild
Aug 04 14:24:00 <JaMa> stefan_schmidt: OK, no problem
Aug 04 14:24:09 <JaMa> I was just curious when noticing it building here again
Aug 04 14:26:24 <stefan_schmidt> JaMa: Hmm, a cleansstate and then a normal build worked without my workaround. Maybe its getting it from sstate?
Aug 04 14:27:46 <stefan_schmidt> I'm done for the day here at my pc anyway
Aug 04 14:28:18 <stefan_schmidt> I will do an complete update and try to build everything without the workaround. Maybe ts gone for good
Aug 04 14:32:30 <JaMa> stefan_schmidt: only if you still have SSTATE_MIRROR set
Aug 04 14:32:41 <JaMa> cleansstate removes it only from local sstate-cache directory
Aug 04 14:32:52 <stefan_schmidt> JaMa: ok, as I thought
Aug 04 14:33:09 <stefan_schmidt> JaMa: I have it set because without it I get other build problems
Aug 04 14:33:11 <JaMa> I'm pretty sure that ca-certificates recipe wasn't changed lately
Aug 04 14:33:20 <stefan_schmidt> IIRC it was something with the android bits
Aug 04 14:33:38 <stefan_schmidt> yeah, would be a surprise if it got fixed by accident
Aug 04 14:33:45 <JaMa> android.*audio possibly?
Aug 04 14:34:11 <stefan_schmidt> just a moment
Aug 04 14:34:20 <stefan_schmidt> doing a update and update-conffiles now
Aug 04 14:34:29 <stefan_schmidt> and will try without SSTATE set
Aug 04 14:39:07 <stefan_schmidt> everything up-to-date, tmp and sstate removed, SSTATE_MIRROR disabled
Aug 04 14:39:33 <stefan_schmidt> Starting a webos-ports-dev-image run now
Aug 04 14:39:52 <stefan_schmidt> JaMa: Will let you know how it bails out
Aug 04 14:40:44 <JaMa> thanks
Aug 04 15:18:08 <Garfonso> stefan_schmidt: it is crashing in line 100? What is the exact error message?
Aug 04 15:18:40 <Garfonso> ah.. ther it is
Aug 04 15:18:40 <Garfonso> hm
Aug 04 15:19:58 <Garfonso> ah. do you run this from the account manager? You removed the check typeof this.params != "undefined".
Aug 04 15:20:23 <Garfonso> you'll get only params, if the scene is launched from the account manager.
Aug 04 16:48:32 <stefan_schmidt> Garfonso: yes, removed that on purpose. This scene will only be run from the account manager
Aug 04 16:48:48 <stefan_schmidt> not planning on account handling without it
Aug 04 16:49:03 <stefan_schmidt> The app might have some stats or logs later, but no account handling
Aug 04 16:49:51 <stefan_schmidt> The default scene for the app will move to another scene later or I will try to hide it completely. Not sure yet
Aug 04 16:50:10 <stefan_schmidt> But for all testing I use the account managr and setup a carddav account right now
Aug 04 19:20:49 <stefan_schmidt> JaMa: Build finished. ca-certificates problem remains but building without SSTATE_MIRROR works now for me
Aug 04 19:21:12 <JaMa> OK
Aug 04 23:29:18 <Mokor> hi there
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