**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Aug 07 02:59:58 2013 Aug 07 04:17:29 LarrySteeze: Pong Aug 07 08:37:43 LarrySteeze: pong Aug 07 08:38:18 morning ! Aug 07 10:34:52 Tofe: morning Aug 07 11:51:08 Tofe: I finally fixed the input issue Aug 07 11:51:18 client apps now have working multi-touch input Aug 07 12:44:30 morphis: yeah ! Aug 07 14:16:52 Tofe: I have a draft implementation for a ls2 service component too Aug 07 14:17:16 only compile tested Aug 07 14:20:36 morphis: ok; I'm not yet sure how to expose this in QML, maybe through an XmlModelList of some sort, or another type of model Aug 07 14:20:58 you mean the json response? Aug 07 14:21:29 well, more about how to expose the json response Aug 07 14:21:38 ah but this is already QML Aug 07 14:21:45 yes Aug 07 14:22:09 you get a string from the component which you then just jsonify Aug 07 14:22:25 ok, so forget about what I said :) Do you have the draft in some branch already ? Aug 07 14:22:42 yes Aug 07 14:22:51 look at morphis/ls2-component Aug 07 14:23:26 it mostly reused code which was sitting behind the PalmServiceBridge Aug 07 14:24:24 ok, yes, I see, a generic ls2 hub exposed for QML Aug 07 14:25:10 you use it like this: http://bpaste.net/show/nzQEzN36W1RDC2tYlcHa/ Aug 07 14:25:11 do we have a documentation about the json calls we can do on that object ? Aug 07 14:25:31 ok, looks simple enough :) Aug 07 14:26:42 Tofe: http://bpaste.net/show/rklLIbUoYdxOxMy8rtiq/ Aug 07 14:26:49 with response handling Aug 07 14:26:58 responseReceived is a signal Aug 07 14:27:53 responseReply ? Aug 07 14:28:52 sorry, the signal is named responseReceivev Aug 07 14:29:29 ok, well anyway, that's very good. I'll see how to integrate that smoothly with some sort of basic UI draft. Aug 07 14:29:54 Tofe: ok Aug 07 14:30:28 Tofe: I think the way would be to create a ApplicationModel component which uses the service component an abstracts the service Aug 07 14:30:32 so it's reusable Aug 07 14:31:05 btw. you got further with getting everything working the a500 again? Aug 07 14:31:21 oh, yes, all compiled and running, sir. Aug 07 14:32:44 The only regretable thing in QML is that there is not good way to create a QML-only list model, it's always either in C++ and exposed in QML, or a hack of a ListModel Aug 07 14:33:18 but there may be another way, like aggregating a ListModel and wrapping it Aug 07 14:33:40 I'll go that way for ApplicationModel. Aug 07 14:34:36 I think I'll create a new folder for these future components, more LS2 oriented Aug 07 14:35:55 morphis: is the json structure of the result described soemwhere ? Aug 07 14:53:32 morphis: also, I think I just found out how to solve one of my problems with the list of cards; indeed, when we scroll the list, the parent of the windowContainer may get deleted. I can now solve that by using the brand new ObjectModel. Aug 07 14:54:41 (this problem doesn't really appear clearly, but it's there, hidden under the carpet) Aug 07 16:08:08 morphis: I updated the custom validator card in trello to describe what works and what not Aug 07 16:08:23 stefan_schmidt: great Aug 07 16:08:30 Tofe|Away: (json structure) that depends on the service Aug 07 16:08:32 I spent some more hours on the problem to pop into the account manager scene Aug 07 16:08:42 I don't know why it does not work. Aug 07 16:09:03 hm Aug 07 16:09:08 Maybe just some missing knowledge regarding js and the whole framework in webos Aug 07 16:09:34 I think I need to put that back onto the backlog Aug 07 16:09:48 The branch with my latest stuff is public tho Aug 07 16:10:09 Tofe|Away: look at https://github.com/webOS-ports/luna-sysmgr/blob/next/Src/base/application/ApplicationManagerService.cpp for the application manager service Aug 07 16:10:13 Maybe I can talk Garfonso into having a deeper look or revisit it later myself Aug 07 16:10:22 stefan_schmidt: yeah that sounds good Aug 07 16:11:05 Tofe|Away: you can try it console with: luna-send -n 1 palm://com.palm.applicationManager/running {} Aug 07 16:11:06 morphis: Its still possible to go forward as one can just abuse the username field from the normal login for user and host Aug 07 16:11:33 So I will go back to looking at the webdav client side at the weekend Aug 07 16:11:38 stefan_schmidt: so somethiing like user@host Aug 07 16:11:52 morphis: already doing in the master branch :) Aug 07 16:11:59 ok Aug 07 16:11:59 Its just ugly Aug 07 16:12:13 but ok to get something in a testable state Aug 07 16:12:21 yeah it is, but revisiting later helps some times :) Aug 07 16:12:49 jup Aug 07 16:12:59 Just as a short update from my side Aug 07 16:13:10 thanks! Aug 07 16:15:45 Tofe|Away: but some of the application manager methods might crash luna-sysmgr as I just commented some parts of the code in order to get it working without a UI Aug 07 17:05:40 hi Aug 07 17:05:45 hi Aug 07 17:22:51 Hi Aug 07 17:23:40 Anyone had time to have a look at my Wiki inventory of pages and suggested actions? Aug 07 17:24:03 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqSZrvi4RFWUdHhSYWs5RWVmTTZWQzR4WkRDVDZ6aVE&usp=sharing Aug 07 17:25:10 Herrie, i like it Aug 07 17:25:22 i dont have time at the moment to review in full, but so far so good Aug 07 17:37:45 Scoutcamper, thanks, can you get the bot working again? Aug 07 17:43:06 morphis: ok ! Aug 07 18:31:41 Quite ironic that LG calles the new power saving feature on their G2 "GRAM" ;) Aug 07 18:32:06 Herrie: not yet, I am currently full of other work Aug 07 18:32:47 Morphis-> OK, should I just go ahead with what I think is very clear and I have no questions about? And leave the rest for later? Aug 07 18:33:21 Scoutcamper-> Any chance of a WYSIWYG editor for our MediaWiki to be installed? Would speed designing stuff up quite a bit at my end ;) Aug 07 18:34:56 Seems like Wikipedia is using WikiEditor, http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:WikiEditor Aug 07 18:35:03 ANy chance you could install that for us as well Aug 07 18:35:04 ? Aug 07 18:35:17 Saves me a lot of time figuring out the Wiki specific codes for everything :P Aug 07 18:35:18 Herrie: questions, maybe but no time to get some Aug 07 18:35:31 Herrie: I would mostly like to just trust you in doing such things Aug 07 18:36:14 Yeah OK, I can put it together, just I'm not sure what's the purpose for some of the pages, if it's still current etc Aug 07 18:36:34 Would need some input from you guys, but I guess I could update my inventory and just leave the items that need clarification Aug 07 18:39:10 ok Aug 07 18:39:27 Herrie: if there is some urgent just ask for the specific page here Aug 07 18:39:38 OK Aug 07 18:39:53 Will just work on structure first and will ask when I come across something specific... Aug 07 18:40:21 http://webos-ports.org/wiki/Alpha2%20Announcement -> Can be deleted, because it's on main too? Aug 07 18:40:56 http://webos-ports.org/wiki/ChangeLog -> Outdated, can be deleted? Aug 07 18:41:20 http://webos-ports.org/wiki/Galaxy%20Nexus%20Alpha%20Goals Still current goals or ... ? Aug 07 18:42:09 http://webos-ports.org/wiki/Input%20Method I believe this can be deleted as well since we use the QT bits for input going forward or maybe we can keep it as general info? Not sure about Chinese, Japanese and Korean support in QT input stuff? Aug 07 18:42:44 http://webos-ports.org/wiki/Links These contain short URLs not sure we need those for something still? Aug 07 18:43:34 http://webos-ports.org/wiki/LS2%20Debug%20Commands -> still required? SInce we have settings app? Might add it under the settings app better? Aug 07 18:43:45 http://webos-ports.org/wiki/LSM%20Video%20Acceleration -> Still required with Luna Next? Aug 07 18:44:08 http://webos-ports.org/wiki/MetaWebosCommits Still required? If yes for what? Aug 07 18:45:29 http://webos-ports.org/wiki/OE%20benchmark Are these current and still required? Aug 07 18:45:59 http://webos-ports.org/wiki/Physicians%20Assistant ???? No idea about this one.... Aug 07 18:46:25 http://webos-ports.org/wiki/Repository%20Layout Might need updating? I can do that based on the current GitHub Aug 07 18:46:48 http://webos-ports.org/wiki/Schedules/Beta%20Feature%20Plan Needs updating? Aug 07 18:46:59 http://webos-ports.org/wiki/Skip%20first%20use Still applicable? Aug 07 18:47:29 http://webos-ports.org/wiki/Who%20is%20doing%20what Needs updating? Aug 07 18:47:41 That's my list for now that's most urgent to clarify ;) Aug 07 18:49:05 Scoutcamper-> http://webos-ports.org/wiki/Test Do we still need this one? Aug 07 19:11:25 Herrie: http://webos-ports.org/wiki/Alpha2_Announcement <- delete Aug 07 19:11:51 Herrie: http://webos-ports.org/wiki/ChangeLog thats something I started some time ago but we need something to show progree to our users Aug 07 19:12:09 lets leave it and integrate within the main page somehow Aug 07 19:12:24 in a section "Currently in webOS ports" Aug 07 19:12:56 Herrie: http://webos-ports.org/wiki/Galaxy_Nexus_Alpha_Goals <- delete Aug 07 19:13:19 Herrie: http://webos-ports.org/wiki/Input_Method <- delete Aug 07 19:13:46 Herrie: http://webos-ports.org/wiki/Links <- should be integrated maybe in the navigation on the left? Aug 07 19:14:20 Herrie: http://webos-ports.org/wiki/LS2_Debug_Commands <- leave it but integrate it somewhere under "Developer Section" Aug 07 19:14:33 Herrie: http://webos-ports.org/wiki/LS2_Debug_Commands <- drop it Aug 07 19:14:54 JaMa: do you still need http://webos-ports.org/wiki/LS2_Debug_Commands ? Aug 07 19:15:10 JaMa: sorry, meant http://webos-ports.org/wiki/MetaWebosCommits and http://webos-ports.org/wiki/OE%20benchmark Aug 07 19:15:35 ka6sox-Alyeska: what about http://webos-ports.org/wiki/Physicians%20Assistant ? Aug 07 19:16:08 I've referenced OE%20benchmark couple of times, so it would be nice to keep it Aug 07 19:16:10 JaMa: can you take a look at http://webos-ports.org/wiki/Repository%20Layout update it according to our current setup? Aug 07 19:16:34 Herrie: http://webos-ports.org/wiki/Schedules/Beta_Feature_Plan drop it, we have Trello Aug 07 19:16:46 and I personally don't need MetaWebosCommits, but I was updating it from time to time (when there were bigger changes) for others to see what we have where Aug 07 19:16:55 Herrie: http://webos-ports.org/wiki/Skip_first_use <- drop it Aug 07 19:17:22 JaMa: ok, lets keep it Aug 07 19:17:44 Herrie: http://webos-ports.org/wiki/Who_is_doing_what <- drop it Aug 07 19:17:55 we have http://webos-ports.org/wiki/WhoIsWho instead Aug 07 19:17:55 I'll update Repository layout, I thought that I've already done that :) Aug 07 19:18:10 stefan_schmidt: if you want you can add yourself to http://webos-ports.org/wiki/WhoIsWho Aug 07 19:18:14 JaMa: :) Aug 07 19:18:33 Herrie: anything else? Aug 07 19:21:06 morphis, yes, PA Aug 07 19:21:16 I call it PA Aug 07 19:22:25 ka6sox-Alyeska: btw. do we have it available somewhere? Aug 07 19:23:45 do we have what availble? Aug 07 19:28:51 the PA Aug 07 19:36:59 not yet Aug 07 20:17:29 What's PA? Aug 07 20:17:38 Thxn guys, will update accordingly Aug 07 20:23:32 Herrie: PA = PhysicalAssistant Aug 07 20:23:39 ka6sox-Alyeska can tell you more :) Aug 07 20:29:50 Ah ok Aug 07 23:20:00 Tofe|Away, I'm still in the great white norht **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Aug 08 02:59:59 2013