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Aug 13 06:00:33 <Herrie> Morphis/JaMa: Ping, we need "Optware for Android" page still? It wasn't clear what you want with "LS2 Debug Commands" and "LSM Video Acceleration" pages either from the logs?
Aug 13 13:04:51 <morphis> Herrie: ka6sox would be better to ask here
Aug 13 13:31:19 <JaMa> morphis: where we ended with switch to master upstream layers?
Aug 13 13:31:39 <JaMa> morphis: IIRC you wanted to test some more stuff in morphis/work before switch, right?
Aug 13 13:50:14 <morphis> JaMa: yeah, and it works fine so far
Aug 13 13:50:20 <morphis> so I am ready to do the switch
Aug 13 13:56:12 <JaMa> the morphis/work changes work fine or did you also test it in master build?
Aug 13 13:56:54 <morphis> JaMa: there are only some minor changes left in morphis/work which I will not merge soon
Aug 13 13:57:01 <morphis> so everything should be in master now
Aug 13 13:57:24 <JaMa> in dylan, right?
Aug 13 13:57:31 <morphis> ah yes
Aug 13 13:57:41 <morphis> thats currrently master for me :)
Aug 13 13:58:03 <JaMa> OK, I'll rebase today and won't update dylan branches anymore
Aug 13 13:58:19 <morphis> ok, we have to communicate this clearly to everybody
Aug 13 14:00:57 <JaMa> morphis: there is nodejs upgrade in upstream, it will be first change only in master branches
Aug 13 14:41:24 <morphis> JaMa: ok
Aug 13 14:53:07 <morphis> JaMa: the nodejs upgrade should not have any effect on our work currently
Aug 13 14:58:42 <JaMa> morphis: ok, everything except webos-setup-scripts is pushed now
Aug 13 14:59:19 <morphis> JaMa: ok, updated that already locally
Aug 13 15:01:40 <JaMa> scripts also pushed now
Aug 13 15:06:14 <morphis> ok
Aug 13 15:49:43 <JaMa> another rebase in progress
Aug 13 15:50:16 <JaMa> will reintroduce newer-layers branch (before "specific" branch) and squash some changes again (we have 104 in specific again)
Aug 13 15:52:31 <morphis> 104 specific changes?
Aug 13 15:52:42 <morphis> that are a lot
Aug 13 15:52:55 <morphis> I think we can drop and squash some of them
Aug 13 16:00:34 <JaMa> 83 now :)
Aug 13 16:01:12 <ka6sox> morphis, ping?
Aug 13 16:01:16 <ka6sox> what is the question?
Aug 13 16:01:18 <morphis> ka6sox: pong
Aug 13 16:01:36 <ka6sox> oh, I see now
Aug 13 16:02:00 <ka6sox> probably don't need the optware for android page here...but let me archive it.
Aug 13 16:02:48 <ka6sox> JaMa, will we be rebasing to 1.5 when it comes out?
Aug 13 16:03:02 <morphis> ka6sox: we're on top of what will be 1.5 soon
Aug 13 16:03:40 <morphis> in other word: directly on top of oe-core master
Aug 13 16:05:47 <ka6sox> okay so rebase will not be needed...thanks.
Aug 13 16:13:16 <JaMa> morphis: down to 75 and pushed now, completely we have 94 changes on top of meta-webos
Aug 13 16:13:29 <morphis> ok
Aug 13 16:13:56 <JaMa> ka6sox: yes we'll be rebasing regularly until 1.5 comes out, then we'll create branches for <codename> and have 2 separate builds again
Aug 13 16:15:14 <ka6sox> JaMa, morphis will the branches be based upon different versions of oe-core or just upgraded recipies?
Aug 13 16:17:39 <JaMa> ka6sox: can you rephrase?
Aug 13 16:18:49 <ka6sox> asking about differences between stable and unstable branches...but will wait for later...
Aug 13 16:18:52 <ka6sox> coffee now
Aug 13 16:23:34 <JaMa> ka6sox: ah I thought you're asking about dylan -> master switch we just did now
Aug 13 16:24:40 <JaMa> I'm still runnning some local builds for that and triggered another round of jenkins builds with latest dylan revision, but after that I'll switch jenkins too
Aug 13 16:24:46 <JaMa> and update wiki
Aug 13 16:25:16 <ka6sox> okay good...
Aug 13 16:25:29 <ka6sox> are these also the arm_qemu builds as well?
Aug 13 16:25:36 <ka6sox> or are those just stock oe-core?
Aug 13 16:31:42 <morphis> ka6sox: do we have a app feed setup already we can use in wop?
Aug 13 16:32:06 <ka6sox> probably
Aug 13 16:32:23 <ka6sox> we don't have a builder setup to populate that but thats fairly trivial
Aug 13 16:32:29 <morphis> we're still refering to the old ones: https://github.com/webOS-ports/meta-webos-ports/blob/master/recipes-webos/services/org.webosinternals.ipkgservice.bb#L26
Aug 13 16:32:45 <JaMa> ka6sox: qemuarm is build as before
Aug 13 16:33:42 <ka6sox> morphis, we can easily add those feeds to the list and rework that ipkgservice
Aug 13 16:33:44 <JaMa> morphis: any idea about:
Aug 13 16:33:45 <JaMa> |  * satisfy_dependencies_for: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for packagegroup-webos-ports-development:
Aug 13 16:33:48 <JaMa> |  * 	libqt5compositor-examples *
Aug 13 16:33:59 <morphis> JaMa: we have to bump meta-qt5 for this
Aug 13 16:34:18 <morphis> ka6sox: ok, just tell me when they're setup
Aug 13 16:34:36 <JaMa> morphis: ah right, I did it only in master webos-ports-setup
Aug 13 16:34:46 <ka6sox> I can create webos-ports-unstable now
Aug 13 16:35:00 <morphis> ok
Aug 13 16:35:17 <ka6sox> JaMa, are we going to have jenkins populate the feeds directly?
Aug 13 16:35:44 <ka6sox> and create an rsync job for this?
Aug 13 16:36:08 <morphis> ka6sox: you will use https://github.com/webos-internals/build for this?
Aug 13 16:36:24 <ka6sox> for apps...yes
Aug 13 16:36:29 <morphis> ok
Aug 13 16:36:31 <ka6sox> but not for base
Aug 13 16:36:42 <ka6sox> base is from OE that jenkins builds
Aug 13 16:37:31 <ka6sox> I can work on making that build controlled by jenkins instead of a cronjob.
Aug 13 16:37:37 <ka6sox> (the webos-internals one)
Aug 13 16:37:57 <ka6sox> and it can watch github for changes
Aug 13 16:38:29 <morphis> ka6sox: yes, just for apps
Aug 13 16:38:40 <morphis> you mean the app feed build?
Aug 13 16:39:57 <ka6sox> app feed build is currently controlled by a every 5 minute cron job
Aug 13 16:40:13 <ka6sox> I'll rework that to be controlled by jenkins
Aug 13 16:40:32 <ka6sox> this will cut down on wear/tear on builders and let them build faster when necessary
Aug 13 16:41:23 <morphis> ok
Aug 13 16:41:31 <morphis> where is the app feed currently build?
Aug 13 16:42:25 <ka6sox> we build it on a separate machine from where things are now for oe-builds
Aug 13 16:42:40 <ka6sox> (back with borabora and tahiti)
Aug 13 16:42:58 <ka6sox> and aruba and bonaire are for wop/OE builds.
Aug 13 16:44:31 <JaMa> ka6sox: using rsync like webos-ports_setup_rsync sounds reasonable
Aug 13 16:44:55 <JaMa> ka6sox: maybe rsync them to different location as apps will hopefully be independent from dylan/master/wp/owp builds
Aug 13 16:45:20 <ka6sox> app feeds will be separate using preware/feeds vs wop/feeds
Aug 13 16:45:37 <ka6sox> wop/feeds is for base OS
Aug 13 16:47:36 <morphis> we really have to write this down in the wiki
Aug 13 16:49:22 <Herrie> I'm happy to add things to Wiki and write stuff around it, just gimme the basics
Aug 13 16:49:41 <morphis> :)
Aug 13 16:49:51 <morphis> ka6sox: do we need to fork the build repo for our purpose?
Aug 13 16:50:06 <morphis> or are we targetting to build all feeds for wosi/wop from the same repo?
Aug 13 16:50:27 <morphis> Herrie: ka6sox will tell you the details for the app feeds
Aug 13 16:50:40 <Herrie> Do we need all those branches in "meta-webos-ports"? There are 23 of them currently?
Aug 13 16:50:52 <ka6sox> he he
Aug 13 16:51:14 <ka6sox> morphis, we build all the feeds simultaneously and put them where they belong
Aug 13 16:51:38 <ka6sox> I can fork build/ and create a wop only one if necessary
Aug 13 16:52:14 <morphis> ka6sox: thats up to the one who manages the app feeds :)
Aug 13 16:52:16 <ka6sox> but the plan (once I got out of GSoC) was to put all builds for webOS under jenkins control.
Aug 13 16:52:22 <morphis> ok
Aug 13 16:52:27 <morphis> Herrie: http://files.gravedo.de/luna-next-architecture.pdf
Aug 13 16:52:46 <ka6sox> morphis, who is app feed mangler?
Aug 13 16:52:48 <morphis> Herrie: it's very rough and unstructured
Aug 13 16:52:57 <morphis> ka6sox: you!? :D
Aug 13 16:53:04 <ka6sox> okay...I can do that
Aug 13 16:53:35 <ka6sox> the base OS feeds will be you and JaMa as you know when a new build is required for the feeds.
Aug 13 16:53:37 <morphis> or maybe you and scoutcamper as you both know this more than me
Aug 13 16:53:46 <morphis> ok
Aug 13 16:54:00 <ka6sox> yes, scout and I can mangle that.
Aug 13 16:54:22 <morphis> great
Aug 13 16:54:40 <morphis> do we have already a app we can put into the feed?
Aug 13 16:55:05 <ka6sox> not that I know of yet.
Aug 13 16:55:27 <morphis> JaMa: ERROR: No recipes available for:
Aug 13 16:55:28 <morphis>   /home/morphis/work/wop/webos-ports/meta-openembedded/meta-systemd/oe-core/recipes-core/util-linux/util-linux_2.23.1.bbappend
Aug 13 16:55:38 <morphis> JaMa: I am getting this after the switch to master
Aug 13 16:55:59 <morphis> JaMa: according to layers.conf meta-oe is at * 2b33380 (HEAD, master) cyrus-sasl: Add patches from Debian to fix linking
Aug 13 16:56:11 <morphis> ka6sox: afaik scoutcamper had one or two once ago
Aug 13 16:56:47 <ka6sox> when I see him we can talk about this.
Aug 13 16:57:06 <ka6sox> we have the room to rework this and make the new feeds happen now.
Aug 13 16:57:19 <Herrie> You could add the memo app (even though it still has some bugs) just as proof of concept?
Aug 13 16:58:00 <morphis> Herrie: it's already part of the base system
Aug 13 16:58:46 <morphis> JaMa: ok, we have to bump the SRCREV in layers.txt to fix it
Aug 13 16:59:20 <Herrie> Morphis thnx for PDF,that's OK can work with it. Where does *nix/Android fit in here?
Aug 13 16:59:58 <scoutcamper> whowhatnow
Aug 13 17:00:16 <morphis> Herrie: oh yes, forgot to add it
Aug 13 17:00:21 <morphis> it's next to libhybris
Aug 13 17:00:25 <morphis> libhybris uses the android bits
Aug 13 17:00:46 <morphis> and you can add a small container with android services like the rildaemon and the mediaserver running inside
Aug 13 17:01:07 <morphis> and add a communication path from ofono to the rildaemon
Aug 13 17:01:30 <Herrie> OK :)
Aug 13 17:02:29 <Herrie> Was putting the apps on the WIki today and the debug.html from calculator and Testr don't work?
Aug 13 17:02:35 <Herrie> http://webos-ports.github.io/org.webosports.app.org.webosports.app.calculator/debug.html
Aug 13 17:02:36 <Herrie> 404
Aug 13 17:02:47 <Herrie> http://webos-ports.github.io/org.webosports.app.testr/debug.html
Aug 13 17:03:07 <Herrie> Not sure what it is, must be something that it cannot be accessed, files are there on regular Github
Aug 13 17:03:17 <morphis> Herrie: hm
Aug 13 17:03:30 <Herrie> You have to create a release fist for them I guess?
Aug 13 17:04:06 <Herrie> Seems like these 2 don't have a release yet, while others do?
Aug 13 17:05:11 <Herrie> http://webos-ports.github.io/org.webosports.app.org.webosports.app.calculator/debug.html should be http://webos-ports.github.io/org.webosports.app.calculator/debug.html
Aug 13 17:05:21 <Herrie> My bad fixed on Wiki already now
Aug 13 17:05:39 <ka6sox> scoutcamper, setting up app feeds and builds.
Aug 13 17:06:08 <ka6sox> for WOP
Aug 13 17:18:18 <Herrie> Still would need releases on GitHub for Testr and Calculator. Not sure who can create those?
Aug 13 17:19:48 <morphis> Herrie: I can do them
Aug 13 17:20:21 <Herrie> GReat, I know they're WIP like all apps, but at least people can demo them in browser then :)
Aug 13 17:20:44 <Herrie> Anyone knows what ShiftyAxel is up to lately?
Aug 13 17:21:56 <morphis> done
Aug 13 17:22:18 <morphis> Herrie: don't know I emailed him some days ago but didn't got an answer yet
Aug 13 17:29:53 <JaMa> Herrie: yes most branches are still used/referenced somewhere
Aug 13 17:30:34 <JaMa> morphis: I've bumped that SRCREV already
Aug 13 17:30:41 <morphis> JaMa: ok
Aug 13 17:31:05 <JaMa> morphis: the problem was that oe-core/webOS-ports/master was taken from HEAD, so when I've updated that you immediately got new revision too
Aug 13 17:31:25 <morphis> dkirker: https://github.com/webOS-ports/org.webosports.app.browser/tree/morphis/qml-based
Aug 13 17:31:26 <JaMa> so I've pushed oe-core/meta-oe update and locked oe-core a bit after you rebased your morphis/work
Aug 13 17:31:36 <morphis> ah
Aug 13 17:32:41 <JaMa> I've also pushed meta-qt5 upgrade to fix "last" dylan builds
Aug 13 17:32:46 <JaMa> and retriggered jenkins build
Aug 13 17:33:10 <Herrie> JaMa: OK clear, just some looked very old and not in use hence I was wondering ;)
Aug 13 17:34:11 <Herrie> Morphis, calculator now OK, testr still gives me 404 :S
Aug 13 17:35:09 <Herrie> Morphis: Readme of Browser says org.webosports.app.phone, you might want to update that ;)
Aug 13 17:45:22 <morphis> Herrie: oh yeah
Aug 13 17:46:59 <Herrie> Sorry problems with UPC's new Horizon 2 update :S TV stopped working so need to do some resets (and wifi is in same box)
Aug 13 17:53:41 <ka6sox> Herrie, is there something I need to do to help you with the wiki changes to clean things up?
Aug 13 17:55:45 <morphis> scoutcamper: I know we talked about the error we get when we want to remove builds on jenkins once ago
Aug 13 17:55:52 <morphis> scoutcamper: is there any known workaround?
Aug 13 18:17:10 <Herrie> ka6sox: Not sure, seems like I'm managing for now. Some bits need updating, need to add new pages etc, but manage that
Aug 13 18:18:24 <Herrie> Ah on this one you were the one to give feedback: http://webos-ports.org/wiki/Physicians_Assistant
Aug 13 18:18:45 <Herrie> Not sure if we need http://webos-ports.org/wiki/LSM_Video_Acceleration and http://webos-ports.org/wiki/LS2_Debug_Commands still?
Aug 13 18:27:19 <ka6sox> on the latter 2 I defer to morphis
Aug 13 18:27:22 <morphis> Herrie: http://webos-ports.org/wiki/LSM_Video_Acceleration can be dropped
Aug 13 18:27:26 <ka6sox> the first one I'll do a writeup now
Aug 13 18:27:26 <morphis> and lets keep http://webos-ports.org/wiki/LS2_Debug_Commands
Aug 13 18:27:53 <ka6sox> let me talk to my cohort about this.
Aug 13 18:28:00 <ka6sox> see where she is.
Aug 13 18:29:16 <Herrie> Morphis: OK gone :)
Aug 13 18:29:32 <Herrie> Where we want LS2 debug commands? Under development/debugging?
Aug 13 18:35:05 <Herrie> Is http://webos-ports.org/wiki/Links what we use here in the bot?
Aug 13 18:44:28 <Herrie> ka6sox/dkirker: Do we need this for something still or can this go? http://webos-ports.org/wiki/Ubiquity
Aug 13 18:47:58 <ka6sox> dunno what that is.
Aug 13 18:48:40 <Herrie> Seems like dkirker put it there sometime... Doesn't have anything useful if you ask me :P
Aug 13 18:55:27 <ka6sox> lets ask him when he is around
Aug 13 18:56:55 <Herrie> Yup, got most cleared, just that Physicians Assistant is with you ;)
Aug 13 18:57:15 <Herrie> NEed to rework lots of bits, but at least linked all pages for now and deleted not used stuff ;)
Aug 13 18:59:01 <dkirker> Herrie: ka6sox: It was a project that I was looking at starting, right before things came to a grinding halt with LG. A sort of way to share notifications "ubiquitously" across all of your devices. No idea how that is going to fit in with things at the moment.
Aug 13 18:59:53 <Herrie> Similar to Choorps TAB sharing across devices?
Aug 13 19:00:03 <dkirker> sorta
Aug 13 19:00:28 <Herrie> Not sure where he left that one, not on GitHub as it seems :S
Aug 13 19:00:40 <dkirker> well... more advanced than that
Aug 13 19:00:49 <dkirker> (got a meeting, so I'll talk later)
Aug 13 19:00:52 <Herrie> Yeah I know lOL
Aug 13 19:00:57 <Herrie> OK no problem ;)
Aug 13 19:04:03 <ka6sox> dkirker, understood.
Aug 13 19:10:41 <Herrie> Didn't we have a page somewhere with build stats, what built OK etc ?
Aug 13 19:11:39 <morphis> Herrie: what kind of build stats do you mean?
Aug 13 19:11:43 <Herrie> I remember seeing it sometime, but didn't see it on the Wiki when I was going through pages?
Aug 13 19:12:01 <Herrie> If I recall it was something about what images are building, if they built OK etc
Aug 13 19:12:19 <morphis> ah I know what you mean
Aug 13 19:12:37 <Herrie> https://github.com/webOS-ports/buildhistory but then more like a dashboard presentation ;)
Aug 13 19:12:39 <Herrie> I think...
Aug 13 19:17:34 <morphis> something like http://build.shr-project.org/ would be nice for build.webos-ports.org too
Aug 13 19:30:21 <ka6sox> Herrie, lets leave them there till he gets a chance to further illucidate
Aug 13 19:31:39 <ka6sox> thats some jquery stuff but pretty simple.
Aug 13 19:35:13 <morphis> ka6sox: yes
Aug 13 19:35:32 <morphis> should mostly work and just needs some adaption for our purpose
Aug 13 19:36:15 <morphis> ka6sox: you had the time to setup app the app feed build?
Aug 13 19:36:17 <ka6sox> says we can use it...as its free software (license embedded in code)
Aug 13 19:36:37 <ka6sox> in the next week yes...today probably not
Aug 13 19:36:58 <ka6sox> I'll put it in the wop jenkins space on milla
Aug 13 19:37:13 <ka6sox> actually I'm wrong
Aug 13 19:37:20 <ka6sox> apps go in the preware/feeds space
Aug 13 19:37:26 <ka6sox> and I will get that done.
Aug 13 19:37:47 <morphis> ka6sox: should I add a card for you on trello or will you?
Aug 13 19:37:59 <ka6sox> please add that
Aug 13 19:38:25 <ka6sox> morphis, I will talk with Garfonso about adding the feed to ipkgservice and preware as well.
Aug 13 19:38:39 <ka6sox> we need to add the base feeds too as discussed.
Aug 13 19:38:57 <morphis> ka6sox: no
Aug 13 19:39:19 <ka6sox> we need a mechanism that doesn't require a user to have wterm right?
Aug 13 19:39:25 <morphis> yes
Aug 13 19:39:31 * PatrickCloud waves
Aug 13 19:39:37 <PatrickCloud> hey guys.. long time no see
Aug 13 19:39:44 <morphis> but primary I want the coreos feeds to be out of preware
Aug 13 19:39:53 <ka6sox> hmmm....
Aug 13 19:39:59 <morphis> it's up to the updater application to upgrade the system
Aug 13 19:40:00 <ka6sox> that means a parallel app...
Aug 13 19:40:08 <ka6sox> its the same mechanism though.
Aug 13 19:40:10 <morphis> ka6sox: you remember we had the discussion once ago?
Aug 13 19:40:12 * PatrickCloud just wants to get this out there cause he knows theres a lot of questions surrounding ACL and PIC..
Aug 13 19:40:15 <ka6sox> opkg update
Aug 13 19:40:25 <PatrickCloud> i have ACL now, if anyone has any questions specific to ACL, please direct them to me
Aug 13 19:40:37 <PatrickCloud> we also have a #phxdevices channel, for those interested in learning more about it
Aug 13 19:40:54 <morphis> ka6sox: yeah it's using the same backend but with a different purpose
Aug 13 19:41:14 <morphis> normally the user wont pick up anything from the coreos feed beside the coreos
Aug 13 19:41:38 <ka6sox> we can make them mutually exclusive in preware so either coreos upgrade or apps upgrade...b
Aug 13 19:41:47 <morphis> we could
Aug 13 19:41:52 <ka6sox> but unless we find more apps developers this will take a LONG time.
Aug 13 19:41:58 <morphis> but that would mean another UI page anyway inside preware
Aug 13 19:42:01 <ka6sox> its a small mod to preware.
Aug 13 19:42:10 <ka6sox> yes, thats easier than a whole new app.
Aug 13 19:42:28 <morphis> yeah but for the coreos we have different scenarios
Aug 13 19:42:36 <morphis> and I don't want preware to parse the whole coreos feeds
Aug 13 19:43:03 <morphis> we have already a org.webosports.service.update service which does this job pretty fine
Aug 13 19:43:17 <ka6sox> the service is fine...the front end is my concern
Aug 13 19:43:25 <ka6sox> without apps developers this will not be ready.
Aug 13 19:43:38 <morphis> ah
Aug 13 19:43:49 <morphis> I will take care about the little coreos update app
Aug 13 19:44:02 <morphis> if someone finds a nice way to integrate this into preware later I am fine
Aug 13 19:44:08 <morphis> but lets keep it outside for the moment
Aug 13 19:54:56 <JaMa> any idea?
Aug 13 19:54:57 <JaMa> | useradd: UID 1000 is not unique
Aug 13 19:54:57 <JaMa> | WARNING: useradd command did not succeed. Retrying...
Aug 13 19:54:57 <JaMa> | ERROR: Tried running useradd command 10 times without scucess, giving up
Aug 13 19:55:05 <JaMa> | ERROR: Function failed: useradd_sysroot (log file is located at /OE/webos/owpb/webos-ports/tmp-eglibc/work/maguro-webos-linux-gnueabi/android-system/1.0-r3/temp/log.do_install.25677)
Aug 13 19:55:46 <ka6sox> JaMa, that UID is in use
Aug 13 19:56:02 <ka6sox> and its polluted across to the builds it seems.
Aug 13 19:56:05 <JaMa> :) but why is it failing in my local build :)
Aug 13 19:56:19 <morphis> JaMa: yeah :)
Aug 13 19:56:21 <ka6sox> is UID 1000 in use on your local box?
Aug 13 19:56:29 <morphis> JaMa: there is a bbappend for connman in meta-webos-ports
Aug 13 19:56:33 <JaMa> morphis: also qtbase -> gstreamer dependency doesn't seem to work, probably because of https://bugzilla.yoctoproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5013
Aug 13 19:56:36 <morphis> which moves xuser to 10000
Aug 13 19:56:57 <ka6sox> thats a better place to put xuser
Aug 13 19:57:16 <JaMa> morphis: ah so for master we need to change it in more places, thanks
Aug 13 19:57:39 <morphis> JaMa: it would be better if we move the default userid to start at 10000
Aug 13 19:57:48 <JaMa> .bbappend meta/recipes-support/user-creation/xuser-account_0.1.bb
Aug 13 19:57:59 <morphis> as I added some of the andorid uids to our system and they need to have specific ids
Aug 13 19:58:50 <morphis> JaMa: http://www.netmite.com/android/mydroid/system/core/include/private/android_filesystem_config.h
Aug 13 19:59:03 <morphis> so everything above 10000 would be save as base
Aug 13 19:59:37 * JaMa testing http://bpaste.net/show/122726/
Aug 13 20:00:10 <morphis> ok
Aug 13 20:00:18 <JaMa> meta/recipes-extended/shadow/files/login.defs_shadow-sysroot:UID_MIN                     1000
Aug 13 20:00:24 <JaMa> we can update this later
Aug 13 20:00:42 <morphis> yes
Aug 13 20:00:58 <morphis> JaMa: can you add a card for it on trello?
Aug 13 20:03:52 <JaMa> I'll probably create patch for it faster then card on trello :)
Aug 13 20:04:43 <morphis> JaMa: then I will leave it to you to care about it :)
Aug 13 20:10:59 <ka6sox> Herrie, thanks for the changes...its looking better!
Aug 13 20:14:01 <EricBlade> good day all
Aug 13 20:31:22 <morphis> EricBlade: hey
Aug 13 20:32:29 <EricBlade> howdy morphis
Aug 13 20:38:42 <ka6sox> howdy EricBlade
Aug 13 20:39:11 <ka6sox> are you in the midwest or out here?
Aug 13 20:41:22 <EricBlade> i am in the west for another week
Aug 13 20:48:54 <Herrie> ka6sox: Welcome, still lots to do ;)
Aug 13 20:49:21 <Herrie> Will add bits to a new main page when fixing stuff ;) http://webos-ports.org/wiki/New_Page
Aug 13 20:50:49 <ka6sox> Herrie, can you authorize new accounts?
Aug 13 20:50:54 <ka6sox> (to the wiki)
Aug 13 20:51:46 <morphis> Herrie: what do you think when can we make the New_Page the new main page?
Aug 13 20:53:03 <ka6sox> herrie, I'd make the red text the same size as the Legacy devices line...otherwise I'd love to see that as the landing page :)
Aug 13 20:55:58 <scoutcamper> ka6sox, i think i gave herrie that power
Aug 13 20:56:06 <scoutcamper> ka6sox, i dont see any pending accounts
Aug 13 20:56:46 <ka6sox> scoutcamper, I just wanted to be sure he had all the cow powers he needed for this :0
Aug 13 20:56:48 <ka6sox> :)
Aug 13 20:56:55 <scoutcamper> :D
Aug 13 20:59:37 <scoutcamper> Herrie, when you are ready to cutover to the New_Page for the main page let me know.
Aug 13 20:59:45 <morphis> Garfonso: do you have a ipk at hand with your recent work on the carddav connector?
Aug 13 21:00:19 <morphis> scoutcamper: when it's in a usable state can you take care off thats it's added to the wosi feeds?
Aug 13 21:00:53 <scoutcamper> what am i adding to the feeds?(sorry, at work and rather scatterbrained at the moment)
Aug 13 21:01:38 <morphis> https://github.com/webOS-ports/org.webosports.service.contacts.carddav
Aug 13 21:05:09 <scoutcamper> ah, okay
Aug 13 21:05:13 <scoutcamper> i can do that
Aug 13 21:07:04 <morphis> great
Aug 13 21:12:00 <Garfonso> I'll generate one
Aug 13 21:12:50 <morphis> Garfonso: that would be great to test it :)
Aug 13 21:16:55 <ka6sox> Garfonso, nice stuff!
Aug 13 21:28:10 <Garfonso> are you feeling lucky and want to have calendar upsync enabled? ;)
Aug 13 21:29:28 <Herrie> I can do account auth. Did a few, seems you guys don't always get to it. Did 2 last week, 1 today for Stephan ;)
Aug 13 21:29:38 <Herrie> Ehm Stefan that is I guess
Aug 13 21:30:08 <Herrie> Ka6sox: Sorry was away, yeah still tweaking that page. Not sure when it will be ready. Wife will be away for a couple of days this week, hope to get most sorted then :)
Aug 13 21:32:44 <ka6sox> Garfonso, yes! please do!
Aug 13 21:33:02 <ka6sox> Herrie, excellent...I like the direction it is going.
Aug 13 21:33:23 <Garfonso> here is the ipk: https://www.dropbox.com/s/cnk9aavq9qindxd/org.webosports.service.contacts.carddav_0.0.1_all.ipk
Aug 13 21:34:28 <Garfonso> works on 2.2.4 (and probably 2.1.X, i.e. Veer version, tested for this version in emulator only, though). Contact is only downsync, calendarevent includes upsync
Aug 13 21:35:04 <EricBlade> There should be no functional change in Synergy between 2.1 and 2.2
Aug 13 21:35:29 <Garfonso> there are some changes.
Aug 13 21:35:47 <Garfonso> for example on 2.1 the account manager waits for onCreate to complete.
Aug 13 21:36:12 <Garfonso> on 2.2.4 it will hammer your service with all the onCreate, onEnabled calls at the same time... which in my opinion is a bug. ;)
Aug 13 21:37:30 <EricBlade> hmm. ok, well, i never noticed anything different
Aug 13 21:37:45 <Garfonso> hehe. It's quite subtle.
Aug 13 21:38:18 <Garfonso> with 3.x currently the only issue is the different call of the custom validator.
Aug 13 21:38:38 <Garfonso> today I got it to work with an enyo app to validate the account and create it...
Aug 13 21:39:26 <Garfonso> but I don't have a clue if it is at all possible to have support for 2.x and 3.x in the same ipk... seems that they need to have different account templates.
Aug 13 21:42:30 <EricBlade> The only difference I have with 3.0 is that the damn activitymanager fires events requiring internet reliably
Aug 13 21:42:48 <EricBlade> and it doesn't in 2, which may be some subtle thing i don't understand
Aug 13 21:45:04 <Garfonso> yes, the internet requirement stuff is a bit strange in 2... sometimes it fires on requirement "excellent" though I only have GPRS (i.e. slow mobile connection)... and sometimes it doesn't fire for weeks on "fair" even though the device is on WiFi every night.
Aug 13 21:45:09 <Garfonso> that's quite strange.
Aug 13 21:47:28 <EricBlade> if I'm ever to make SynerGV 2 work on phones, I need to figure out some happy requirement that I can trigger for cellular
Aug 13 21:47:51 <EricBlade> i tested it on a cellular touchpad, and it worked quite well
Aug 13 21:48:00 <Garfonso> today I learned that there is a xml2json converter in webOS that I'll try to use and replace the node_module with that currently is in use... ;)
Aug 13 21:48:14 <EricBlade> Garfonso: ???
Aug 13 21:49:24 <Garfonso> foundations.xml has a xml2json converter
Aug 13 21:49:56 <Garfonso> didn't know that. Always used some external node.js modules... which are a bit akward to load on 2.2.4 at least
Aug 13 21:50:49 <ka6sox> Garfonso, do you have a 3.x device?
Aug 13 21:51:10 <bhuey> folks
Aug 13 21:51:19 <ka6sox> bhuey,
Aug 13 21:51:26 <EricBlade> Garfonso: no, i didn't know that either. send me some info sometime
Aug 13 21:52:33 <Garfonso> I have a lot of devices.. actively in use are two TouchPads, a Veer with 2.2.4 (my main phone) and a Pre3 (my wife's phone).
Aug 13 21:53:34 <Garfonso> EricBlade: there it is https://github.com/openwebos/foundation-frameworks/blob/master/foundations.xml/javascript/xml2json.js ;)
Aug 13 21:54:26 <ka6sox> Garfonso, okay
Aug 13 21:58:46 <EricBlade> Garfonso: interesting. not sure if i can make use of that anywhere, but i think i can
Aug 13 21:58:54 <EricBlade> not that i'll ahve time to investigate that for a while
Aug 13 22:05:11 <Garfonso> if anybody feels lucky and wants to try it on a touchpad, here is a ipk with the enyo vaidator UI, which works on 3.x: https://www.dropbox.com/s/4ttdng39qu2wu77/org.webosports.service.contacts.carddav_0.0.1_enyo_all.ipk
Aug 13 22:19:13 <Garfonso> good night.
Aug 14 00:16:34 <bhuey> ka6sox: how's it going ?
Aug 14 00:20:18 <ka6sox> just trying to get back into things...been gone for 2 weeks.
Aug 14 00:20:37 <bhuey> yeah
Aug 14 00:20:45 <bhuey> doing little of anything here
Aug 14 00:22:00 <ka6sox> right now I'm just trying to figure out what side is up.
Aug 14 02:18:29 <EricBlade> ka6sox: ^^^^^'
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