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Aug 16 06:14:43 <Herrie> morphis/Jama: The builds on http://build.webos-ports.org can we add some logical structure to those? So we can easily link them from the wiki?
Aug 16 06:16:48 <Herrie> Or can I link to the ones in http://build.webos-ports.org/webos-ports/images/ ?
Aug 16 06:17:19 <Herrie> Or is there already a structure for when we have stable releases etc? Where they'll be put on the server?
Aug 16 06:27:05 <Herrie> As per http://webos-ports.org/wiki/Grouper_Info the CM guys have some redirects for each device and each build (nightly, milestone, RC, stable) in the form of http://download.cyanogenmod.org/?type=nightly&device=grouper
Aug 16 06:28:01 <Herrie> Currently http://build.webos-ports.org/webos-ports/images/ only has the nightly's per device. How we want to do this when we get to another stage when we can have milestones, RC, stables etc?
Aug 16 06:28:46 <morphis> Herrie: currently we're on going to have nightly and release builds
Aug 16 06:29:31 <morphis> but you're right the directory looks a little bit unorganized
Aug 16 06:29:38 <morphis> (for the user)
Aug 16 06:30:18 <morphis> so something like <build number>/ as directory for every build would be better, JaMa any idea?
Aug 16 06:34:26 <morphis> JaMa: ah, I already had the feeling thats related to systemd
Aug 16 06:34:27 <Herrie> Can't we do?  http://build.webos-ports.org/webos-ports/nightly/grouper
Aug 16 06:34:49 <Herrie> http://build.webos-ports.org/webos-ports/release/grouper ?
Aug 16 06:35:04 <morphis> http://build.webos-ports.org/webos-ports/release/grouper/<release number>
Aug 16 06:35:16 <Herrie> OK :)
Aug 16 06:35:17 <morphis> http://build.webos-ports.org/webos-ports/nightly/grouper/<nightly build number>/ ?
Aug 16 06:35:41 <Herrie> Nightly build number might be hard to link from the wiki? How would the nightly build number be build up? yyyymmdd or ?
Aug 16 06:35:56 <morphis> just a increasing number
Aug 16 06:36:12 <morphis> but we could create a symlink to the latest so http://build.webos-ports.org/webos-ports/nightly/grouper/current is always the latest
Aug 16 06:36:43 <morphis> but I really fear we will have nightlies only for a long time :)
Aug 16 06:37:02 <Herrie> That's OK ;) It's good to be prepared for the future already :)
Aug 16 06:37:11 <Herrie> symlink would be great :)
Aug 16 06:37:44 <Herrie> Is that you, JaMa or someone else who needs to reorganize this? I assume the current builds on Bonaire, Aruba etc point to there?
Aug 16 06:38:59 <morphis> Herrie: we have a jenkins job which copies all the files after a build to there
Aug 16 06:39:25 <morphis> currently its doing just rsync'ing
Aug 16 06:41:13 <Herrie> Ah ok, so that's an easy change at your end ;)
Aug 16 06:41:27 <morphis> it should
Aug 16 06:41:45 <Herrie> I'll update the Wiki accordingly today so we won't link to CM anymore and I'll remove milestone and RC builds
Aug 16 06:41:54 <morphis> ok
Aug 16 06:42:10 <Herrie> And will see if I can get that build template working as well. Copied a bit of CM structure y'day for it so will tweak that today ;)
Aug 16 06:45:54 <Herrie> For release, can we do a http://build.webos-ports.org/webos-ports/release/grouper/current symlink as well that links to latest release?
Aug 16 06:47:03 <Herrie> Updated ;) http://webos-ports.org/wiki/Grouper_Info
Aug 16 06:47:05 <morphis> we can but we don't have a release for grouper just for maguro
Aug 16 06:47:13 <Herrie> Ah ok ;)
Aug 16 06:47:18 <Herrie> WEll for any device in the future ;)
Aug 16 06:47:27 <Herrie> Just as a generic pointer
Aug 16 06:47:49 <Herrie> I assume we'll have some grouper release at some point in future ;)
Aug 16 06:48:16 <Herrie> Anyway I'm off to work, no IRC there, just reading logs ;)
Aug 16 06:48:17 <morphis> yes
Aug 16 06:48:27 <morphis> Herrie: will you make http://webos-ports.org/wiki/Grouper_Build_Setup more generic too?
Aug 16 06:48:47 <ka6sox> Herrie, when we start doing releases there will be a Link for this
Aug 16 06:48:47 <Herrie> YEs
Aug 16 06:48:51 <ka6sox> and Aruba builds this
Aug 16 06:48:58 <ka6sox> (currently)
Aug 16 06:49:09 <Herrie> Something like this: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Build_for_grouper
Aug 16 06:49:40 <Herrie> It's all template based, so I'll rework that and put the current grouper and maguro ones
Aug 16 06:50:28 <morphis> ok, as we can share 95% for all devices
Aug 16 06:50:33 <Herrie> Yes :)
Aug 16 06:50:35 <Herrie> Hence templates
Aug 16 06:50:40 <Herrie> CM guys did that properly :)
Aug 16 06:50:57 <morphis> ok
Aug 16 06:51:05 <ka6sox> Herrie, when you feel comfortable please switch to the new front page...
Aug 16 06:51:07 <ka6sox> I like it.
Aug 16 06:51:09 <Herrie> So I'll use that as a basis and customize it to our needs and rewrite bits ;)
Aug 16 06:51:18 <Herrie> Yeah hope to do lots today and during the weekend :)
Aug 16 06:51:35 <Herrie> Was exhausted y'day and not very productive then, so decided to leave it for today after some good rest ;)
Aug 16 06:51:58 <Herrie> Anyway off to work now, talk later ;)
Aug 16 11:19:44 <JaMa> morphis: clean build on my machine succeeded again, weird
Aug 16 11:20:23 <morphis> hm
Aug 16 12:29:21 <JaMa> morphis: http://lists.openembedded.org/pipermail/openembedded-core/2013-June/080328.html looks like there is work around for that now
Aug 16 12:41:00 <JaMa> morphis: it's included in latest webOS-ports/master in oe-core and it needs newer meta-oe too, but build test is still running on bonaire to confirm that it works
Aug 16 14:26:56 <ka6sox-away> did I miss stefan_schmidt_w today?
Aug 16 14:27:46 <stefan_schmidt_w> ka6sox-away: no
Aug 16 14:27:51 <stefan_schmidt_w> ka6sox-away: still busy at work
Aug 16 14:27:57 <stefan_schmidt_w> for another 45 minutes
Aug 16 14:29:58 <stefan_schmidt_w> :)
Aug 16 14:31:39 <stefan_schmidt_w> Any of you folks at LinuxCon EU in Edinburgh in October?
Aug 16 14:32:11 <ka6sox-away> not going to make it this year...sorry....they cancelled the 3rd day of ELCE and that just did it for me...
Aug 16 14:32:27 <stefan_schmidt_w> ka6sox-away: ah, to bad
Aug 16 14:33:06 <ka6sox-away> stefan_schmidt_w, how are things going?
Aug 16 14:34:24 <stefan_schmidt_w> ka6sox-away: Have to take antibiotics for my toothache and have a scheduled root canal treatment. Good besides that :)
Aug 16 14:34:45 <ka6sox-away> ewww...
Aug 16 14:34:52 <stefan_schmidt_w> The caldav/carddav connector makes good progress. Mostly thanks to Garfonso
Aug 16 14:34:56 <ka6sox-away> I'd rather NOT have a root canal.
Aug 16 14:35:12 <stefan_schmidt_w> ka6sox-away: I don't want it either. Just no way around it
Aug 16 14:37:17 <ka6sox-away> ugh...
Aug 16 14:37:42 <ka6sox-away> okay well...when is root canal...do you have to dread it over the weekend?
Aug 16 14:37:47 <ka6sox-away> or is in a few hours?
Aug 16 14:38:18 <stefan_schmidt_w> appointment is Monday and they estimate 45 minutes
Aug 16 14:38:25 <stefan_schmidt_w> we will see how that turns out
Aug 16 14:44:16 <ka6sox-away> yup
Aug 16 16:28:08 <Herrie|Work> 45 mins is way too little for root canal...
Aug 16 16:28:47 <Isandunk> Hey Herrie|Work appreciate the work that you've done to wiki, but IMO the graphics pages were better separate; otherwise its going to be one massive page in the end...
Aug 16 16:29:21 <Isandunk> The real thing with the root canal is: Private or NHS? :-)
Aug 16 16:29:31 * PatrickCloud waves goodmorning
Aug 16 16:30:05 <Herrie|Work> Isandunk: Not done yet with graphics pages, will re-organize it still to be better, don't worry :0
Aug 16 16:30:14 <Herrie|Work> This is an in-between solution for now ;)
Aug 16 16:30:27 <Isandunk> Cool. Ok!
Aug 16 16:30:55 <Herrie> Probably will move the depreciated ones to the end and make some collapsible parts ;)
Aug 16 16:31:31 <Isandunk> I'll leave it in your capable hands!
Aug 16 16:32:11 <Herrie> Just needed to organize the 100 or so pages in there ;) So did some rough bits first, delete unnecessary stuff, outdated stuff, create links to everything, put in templates etc
Aug 16 16:32:16 <Isandunk> Do we have somewhere that we can share large files? I have a lot of PSDs to share...
Aug 16 16:32:22 <Herrie> Still lots of fine tuning needs to happen ;)
Aug 16 16:32:30 <Herrie> Not sure what's the max upload limit currently?
Aug 16 16:32:41 <Isandunk> Its much better already :-)
Aug 16 16:33:36 <Isandunk> I know we have the wiki but it feels a bit clunky for sharing PSDs, something akin to dropped would be more suitable
Aug 16 16:33:51 <Herrie> We could create a dropbox?
Aug 16 16:33:59 <Herrie> ka6sox: What's your view?
Aug 16 16:36:16 <Herrie> How big are your PSD's?
Aug 16 16:39:09 <Isandunk> Would have to check, not at my pc atm. Some are quite large due to them being x4
Aug 16 16:44:04 <Herrie> OK, Wiki accepts up to 20MB for now. Not ideal I know but well.... Let's see what ka6sox has to say :)
Aug 16 16:44:15 <Herrie> Hey stroughtonsmith!
Aug 16 16:44:36 <stroughtonsmith> howdy? lol
Aug 16 16:44:43 <Herrie> Howdy ;)
Aug 16 16:44:50 <Herrie> I saw your name when I was cleaning up wiki ;)
Aug 16 16:45:19 <stroughtonsmith> shows how old the reference is :P
Aug 16 16:45:35 <Herrie> As in working on unofficial ports for Nexus S and Transformer Prime ;)
Aug 16 16:45:46 <Herrie> Was wondering what's up with that, stil working on that or .... ?
Aug 16 16:46:27 <stroughtonsmith> not something I'm working on, no
Aug 16 16:46:46 <Herrie> OK ;)
Aug 16 16:47:00 <Herrie> Anything on GitHub for the work that you did in the past?
Aug 16 16:47:09 <Herrie> Looks empty on the wiki with just your name ;)
Aug 16 16:47:18 <Herrie> http://webos-ports.org/wiki/Other_Ports
Aug 16 16:48:39 <stroughtonsmith> not iirc, at the time I didn't have a build system so it was more trying to get existing rootfs' up and running on existing kernels
Aug 16 16:49:02 <Herrie> Ah ok
Aug 16 16:49:46 <Isandunk> Right. Gotta go for dinner. Night guys.
Aug 16 17:01:55 <morphis> JaMa: does it fix the issue in your case?
Aug 16 17:04:05 <morphis> JaMa: "qemu.bbclass: try to fix libpseudo issue" works?
Aug 16 17:04:54 <morphis> KyleMaas: seems like one of your PR's got merged
Aug 16 17:16:55 <KyleMaas> morphis: Yeah, I think it's up to about four of them now.  Pretty excited about it.  :)
Aug 16 17:44:15 <Herrie> I noticed they're not very quick with some of the commits :(
Aug 16 20:30:44 <morphis> JaMa: ping
Aug 16 21:14:48 <JaMa> morphis: sorry I was away
Aug 16 21:14:55 <JaMa> NOTE: recipe webos-ports-dev-image-1.0-r0: task do_rootfs: Started
Aug 16 21:15:00 <JaMa> I'll know in a minute
Aug 16 21:18:37 <morphis> :)
Aug 16 21:19:03 <morphis> JaMa: do you saw my discussion with Herrie about reorganizing our build output at builds.webos-ports.org?
Aug 16 21:25:52 <JaMa> morphis: just finished
Aug 16 21:26:18 <JaMa> morphis: I lost power in the morning, so I've noticed it but haven't read it yet, hopefully I have it in logs on disk
Aug 16 21:26:47 <JaMa> morphis: I'll push oe-core/meta-oe update with that patch included and start new builds
Aug 16 21:28:15 <morphis> JaMa: great
Aug 16 21:28:43 <morphis> JaMa: was mostly about the images
Aug 16 21:29:00 <morphis> http://build.webos-ports.org/webos-ports/nightly/grouper/<nightly build number>/
Aug 16 21:29:12 <morphis> that was the directory structure we talked about
Aug 16 21:29:29 <morphis> the last build should always be http://build.webos-ports.org/webos-ports/nightly/grouper/current/
Aug 16 21:29:47 <JaMa> if we're going to do this, why not use "staging feeds" scheme from SHR?
Aug 16 21:30:23 <JaMa> with advantage of "promoting" tested nightlies to official?
Aug 16 21:31:51 <JaMa> morphis: do we need android-audiosystem for ofono when building qemux86*?
Aug 16 21:31:53 <morphis> we can do it this way to the new structure was mostly only to make the build output more understandable by possible users
Aug 16 21:31:58 <morphis> JaMa: no
Aug 16 21:32:13 <morphis> JaMa: or ..
Aug 16 21:32:28 <morphis> yes it's needed currently as it's using some methods of it
Aug 16 21:32:55 <JaMa> I'll try to build it on bonaire without it, before starting jenkins builds
Aug 16 21:33:04 <morphis> JaMa: I can bump ofono to a newer version tomorrow which will not have the dependency anymore
Aug 16 21:33:05 <JaMa> but I guess there isn't something like configure option to disable it, right?
Aug 16 21:33:14 <morphis> no
Aug 16 21:33:18 <JaMa> ok, then I'll wait for tomorrow
Aug 16 21:33:39 <JaMa> other MACHINEs will be building some more time
Aug 16 21:35:23 <morphis> hm, need to figure out how I imported the bzr branch into a git repo some time ago ...
Aug 16 21:36:28 <JaMa> morphis: btw I'll be away from computers for next 2 days
Aug 16 21:36:54 <JaMa> there is only very weak GPRS signal on our cotage
Aug 16 21:37:34 <morphis> JaMa: no problem, I will be very busy with other things too
Aug 16 21:39:13 <morphis> JaMa: when I give you a SRCREV can you bump ofono for me?
Aug 16 21:46:53 <JaMa> yes
Aug 16 21:47:11 <morphis> hm, the bzr import needs some time
Aug 16 21:50:32 <morphis> JaMa: hm, but ofono shouldn't be pulled in for qemu anyway
Aug 16 21:51:59 <morphis> as long as it doesn't has telephony as MACHINE_FEATURE
Aug 16 21:53:48 <morphis> JaMa: https://github.com/webOS-ports/meta-webos-ports/blob/master/recipes-core/packagegroups/packagegroup-webos-ports-extended.bb#L27
Aug 16 21:54:41 <morphis> hm, it's pulled in by something other
Aug 16 21:54:54 <JaMa> it was through connman, see http://jenkins.nas-admin.org/job/webos-ports_setup_webos-ports-dev-image_qemux86/lastBuild/console
Aug 16 21:56:05 <JaMa> hmm we have 3g in DISTRO_FEATURES?
Aug 16 21:56:17 <JaMa> conf/distro/include/webos-features.inc:WEBOS_DISTRO_FEATURES_CONNECTIVITY = "bluetooth 3g wifi"
Aug 16 21:59:09 <morphis> hm
Aug 16 21:59:43 <morphis> ok, lets let it there as it might make sense when we want for example simulate phone functionality in the emulator
Aug 16 22:02:44 <JaMa> yes, I was thinking about disabling 3g->ofono e.g. for _x86, but that also doesn't help much in case we have some x86 tablet like rock working
Aug 16 22:03:43 <morphis> yes
Aug 16 22:06:28 <morphis> JaMa: I will take care about ofono tomorrow
Aug 16 22:07:33 <JaMa> thanks, that's good enough
Aug 16 22:07:54 <JaMa> hopefully there will be 4 new images for other MACHINEs now
Aug 16 22:07:55 <morphis> I want to drop the andorid-audiosystem anywayy
Aug 16 22:08:13 <JaMa> yes I remember you said that
Aug 16 22:08:46 <morphis> and using plain alsa + pulseaudio again
Aug 16 22:14:01 <morphis> so I am off
Aug 16 22:14:02 <morphis> gn8
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