**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Aug 23 02:59:59 2013 Aug 23 05:01:08 ka6sox: ping Aug 23 05:38:31 ka6sox: Nevermind found it already :) Aug 23 06:02:27 Herrie, semi-pong? Aug 23 06:23:23 Was looking for your Pre3 teardown images but found them already Aug 23 06:24:11 morning Aug 23 06:27:42 okay good. Aug 23 06:27:47 morning morphis Aug 23 06:30:33 hey ka6sox Aug 23 06:31:28 howdy bhuey Aug 23 06:31:39 how's it been going ? Aug 23 06:32:26 pretty busy with this GSoC stuff and work. Aug 23 07:27:50 morphis: this is without your qt5 patch from yesterday, but I wonder if it will be fixed by that or not http://pastebin.com/sEUxxwp7 Aug 23 07:33:51 JaMa: it should Aug 23 07:34:12 JaMa: can you check the content of Qt5CoreConfig.cmake? Aug 23 11:24:04 JaMa: hm something has changed in our kernel/initramfs setup Aug 23 11:24:19 current kernels aren't able boot anymore but the alpha2 one is Aug 23 11:26:01 (at least for maguro) Aug 23 11:30:05 mmh with master, my tablet reboots before luna-next starts. And this wonderful system won't let me see any log file... Aug 23 11:31:57 Tofe: yeah, thats what I see too Aug 23 11:32:09 with a recent kernel build from master Aug 23 11:32:38 Tofe: I tried with the kernel from our alpha2 and it works fine so there is something wrong on kernel build side Aug 23 11:33:22 yes, and it is common between you and me, so it would mean it is some default option given to the kernel build Aug 23 11:34:17 gcc 4.8 ? Aug 23 11:38:55 maybe Aug 23 11:39:03 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gcc-4.8/+bug/1178847 ? Aug 23 11:39:15 I am waiting for JaMa to comment maybe he can tell us what has changed Aug 23 11:39:50 ok Aug 23 11:42:31 but gcc 4.8 is a very good candiate for this Aug 23 11:46:02 Looks like there are some possible patches to apply to the kernel (http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.handhelds.openembedded.core/39864), but the gcc real cause is quite unclear Aug 23 12:14:05 Tofe: interesting Aug 23 12:18:42 morphis: I haven't tested it yet, but sounds like possible cause I had the same problem on om-gta02 Aug 23 12:43:57 Tofe, JaMa: I will test with the two patches mentioned in http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.handhelds.openembedded.core/39864 Aug 23 13:18:44 Tofe: the two patches seem to fix the problem Aug 23 13:42:46 hi Aug 23 13:43:55 Garfonso: hey Aug 23 14:10:04 morphis: great :) Aug 23 14:10:53 morphis: do you have the two patch files that I could try directly on my kernel ? Aug 23 14:11:30 Tofe: one moment Aug 23 14:11:57 Tofe: http://git.shr-project.org/git/?p=linux.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/tuna/3.0/master-next Aug 23 14:12:02 the two patches on top Aug 23 14:12:28 ok good thx Aug 23 14:15:44 Tofe: https://github.com/webOS-ports/luna-next/pull/32 Aug 23 14:19:32 merged Aug 23 14:22:36 Tofe: thanks Aug 23 14:23:10 Tofe: that should enable you to work with the application manager without problems Aug 23 14:23:20 ok, great Aug 23 14:24:05 morphis: how did you apply the whole commit, like that, from an external git repo ? Aug 23 14:24:22 ah Aug 23 14:24:34 I have a big linux git tree locally with a lot of remotes added Aug 23 14:24:53 mmmh ok, I'll see what I can do :) Aug 23 14:25:01 Tofe: just add the shr repository with git remote add shr http://git.shr-project.org/repo/linux.git Aug 23 14:25:02 git fetch Aug 23 14:25:18 and then pick the commits by SRCREV with git cherry-pick into your branch Aug 23 14:25:27 or export them from the web interface as patch Aug 23 14:25:51 ala save http://git.shr-project.org/git/?p=linux.git;a=patch;h=3b3774f3b35be5d6281f14059bd738cdbaaa765a as file Aug 23 14:25:56 and then git am Aug 23 14:26:08 oooh git am ! Aug 23 14:26:20 too late, I already begun the fetch Aug 23 14:26:39 may be useful later on Aug 23 14:27:10 Tofe: yes Aug 23 15:23:55 rndbit Aug 23 15:43:48 Herrie|Work, is there a Installer page on the wiki? Aug 23 15:47:40 ka6sox: http://www.webos-ports.org/wiki/Physicians_Assistant is there Aug 23 15:48:42 perfect Aug 23 15:48:48 thanks... Aug 23 15:49:02 I wanted to add some documentation based upon a meeting last night Aug 23 16:12:14 Does it work for other kind of scientists? Aug 23 16:14:23 mmmh the fix didn't fix the reboot problem for me :( Aug 23 16:14:50 Though I'm on a quite standard 3.1.10 kernel Aug 23 16:22:16 Tofe: thats sad Aug 23 16:23:01 yes, I agree Aug 23 16:25:01 Morphis: Where can I get the VirtualBox image? On build.webos-ports.org I only seem to find VMDK which is VMWare? Aug 23 16:26:44 Garfonso: sorry for the problem with the missing file. Will check what happened there in ~2h Aug 23 16:26:57 Also testing against my Owncloud serven then Aug 23 16:29:36 stefan_schmidt, we have builders if you need them as well. Aug 23 16:30:24 ka6sox: its javascript so it would only be notices at run time I think. Maybe during palm-package when checking against the sources.json file Aug 23 16:30:53 ka6sox: And once we have some smaller things sorted I would actually like to get the connector into the regular webos-ports build Aug 23 16:31:30 even if it all does not work it gives the right message and we see problems early if something does not work from packaging and image creation wise Aug 23 16:32:32 okay let me know when you are ready for this. Aug 23 16:33:15 stefan_schmidt, I am planning on using webosinternals/build.git for our feeds. Aug 23 16:33:42 ka6sox: will do Aug 23 16:33:43 I'm able to add our feed setups and some are already added by rwhitby a while ago. Aug 23 16:44:48 Herrie: vmdk works fine in virtualbox Aug 23 16:47:15 Morphis: Yeah just needed to see how to mount it, found it now :) Aug 23 16:47:19 Starting the image just now Aug 23 16:47:47 Can I suffice with VMDK or I need other files as well? Aug 23 16:47:52 Doesn't seem to like JUST VMDK ;) Aug 23 16:48:54 Let me upload error Aug 23 16:48:59 Could be I did something wrong somewhere Aug 23 16:49:39 http://herrie.org/portsvmdk.png Aug 23 16:51:15 Did pretty much standard new VBox and assigned the VDMK to the SATA controller Aug 23 16:51:18 Herrie: ah you're on windows Aug 23 16:52:10 Herrie: the machine needs a specific configuration Aug 23 16:52:32 Herrie: take a look at https://github.com/webOS-ports/meta-webos-ports/blob/master/scripts/webosvbox Aug 23 16:53:07 Ah ok :) Aug 23 16:53:12 Yeah Windows here sorry :P Aug 23 16:53:18 Herrie: http://bpaste.net/show/3SVfqf1iI8fSp8h8pCxD/ Aug 23 16:53:25 thats my vbox configuration if that helps Aug 23 16:53:39 we need to find a better way somewhere soon to help people like you setting this up :) Aug 23 16:54:35 Herrie: the error in your screenshots says that the hard disk configuration is wrong so it doesn't find the hard disk you added Aug 23 16:58:19 It seems to start loading, but after a while i get this error Aug 23 16:58:25 Seems like hda2 somehow is the problem Aug 23 16:58:58 Should be OK I would say: http://www.herrie.org/vbox6.png Aug 23 17:00:22 Herrie: it's only the kernel booting Aug 23 17:00:32 but the kernel is specifically configured to boot from a hard disk Aug 23 17:00:45 so you stricly need to follow the configuration scheme I pasted Aug 23 17:02:27 Herrie: you can try to just adopt my configuration Aug 23 17:50:02 Herrie: try to add an IDE hard disk and use that VMDK image Aug 23 18:35:18 Ok will try that thanks Aug 23 18:35:27 Was out for a while, will give it a go now Aug 23 18:37:44 panda-z: Can you post your config? Aug 23 18:37:50 I must be doing something silly wrong Aug 23 18:44:57 Ok got it runnign now Aug 23 18:45:09 Have the image as Primary Master and 2nd disk as Primary Slave Aug 23 18:46:08 Unfortunately webAppMgr and Luna Next don't start :( Aug 23 18:46:52 http://herrie.org/vboxerror.png Aug 23 18:49:14 Herrie: login as root, and start luna-next manually Aug 23 18:50:57 Herrie: LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$LD_LIBRARY_PATH:/usr/lib/llvm3.3/ Aug 23 18:51:08 Herrie: then execute luna-next Aug 23 19:14:52 Thnx Aug 23 19:14:56 How to execute it ? Aug 23 19:14:59 Sorry n00b here Aug 23 19:15:56 Herrie: just enter luna-next Aug 23 19:29:42 Garfonso: Added checkcredentialsassistant.js again now. Was my fault sorry. Aug 23 19:30:10 Garfonso: I skipped it during my re-work of your commits as I though it has to get deleted. Aug 23 19:30:37 Garfonso: Pushed it. Now to your comits about Dav.js Aug 23 19:34:27 Garfonso: The caldav folder listing patch is the important one? Aug 23 19:35:06 Garfonso: I can cherr-pick them directly and push to the repo if you want Aug 23 19:43:53 Herrie: it's a problem we still need to fix Aug 23 19:46:48 morphis: you folks are using any sign offs in the webos-ports projects? Aug 23 19:47:00 * stefan_schmidt is writing a small HACKING doc for the dav connector Aug 23 19:47:33 stefan_schmidt: yes, but as soon you submit something to OWO it must have the Open webOS DCO sign off Aug 23 19:47:46 Its a bit sparse right now :) http://paste.debian.net/29177/ Aug 23 19:48:10 http://www.webos-ports.org/wiki/ContributionGuideline is a little bit unlcear at this point Aug 23 19:48:12 ka6sox-away: ^^ Aug 23 19:48:16 morphis: So webos-ports uses the kernel style SOB and when going into OWO it needs different one? Aug 23 19:48:25 stefan_schmidt: yes Aug 23 19:48:35 stefan_schmidt: http://www.openwebosproject.org/community/governance/dco/ Aug 23 19:48:40 morphis: ok Aug 23 19:49:10 Thats a good url to refer from the file it seems Aug 23 19:49:16 stefan_schmidt: in line 12 is a minor typo: Chnage -> Change Aug 23 19:49:27 And I will only list some specifics for the connector Aug 23 19:50:41 ok Aug 23 19:51:12 ka6sox-away: did we ever really agreed on how we want to handle the sing off stuff? Aug 23 19:51:34 morphis: Process explicitly states Open webOS DCO signoff is needed Aug 23 19:52:33 stefan_schmidt: yes, for OWO components Aug 23 19:52:45 morphis: ah Aug 23 19:53:07 I have to say it might be a bit annoying to always to that by hand and not relying on git to handle the signoff Aug 23 19:53:29 http://www.webos-ports.org/wiki/ContributionGuideline is mostly a copy of http://www.openwebosproject.org/community/accept/ Aug 23 19:53:46 stefan_schmidt: I had a hook flying around for this some time ago Aug 23 19:54:50 morphis: yeah, some pre-commit hook i guess. Still annoying :) Aug 23 19:55:08 :) Aug 23 19:55:54 stefan_schmidt: you are excited about wop on your gnexus? Aug 23 19:56:13 morphis: The alpha2 was very nice Aug 23 19:56:35 morphis: the current build is a bit less exciting :) Aug 23 19:56:50 morphis: I know its all about getting the foundations right. :) Aug 23 19:56:57 morphis: Just less exiting that way. :) Aug 23 19:57:49 :D Aug 23 19:57:54 And I need to cleanup my local build to have less hacks in it. See what still is broken for me for a plain build Aug 23 19:58:03 ok Aug 23 19:58:09 morphis: Its the user and tech ngeek speaking out of me. Wants to see something working. Aug 23 19:58:28 morphis: The developer tells me "Its fine. Tons of work to actually get to that state. :)" Aug 23 19:58:43 I know that feeling Aug 23 20:00:49 http://paste.debian.net/29186/ that should do it for now. Will adapt over time Aug 23 20:04:11 morphis, you mean DCO or acking each other's work? Aug 23 20:04:48 anything upstreamable needs the DCO Aug 23 20:05:02 anything that goes into our repos needs a compatible license. Aug 23 20:05:13 our apps are MIT for example. Aug 23 20:07:27 ka6sox-away: ok, we need to clear state this in our contribution guideline Aug 23 20:07:48 morphis, recipies are what license? MIT? Aug 23 20:07:55 yes Aug 23 20:08:12 okay I can get this into the governance page if you wish Aug 23 20:09:05 Is there actually changes going from webos-ports into OWO? Aug 23 20:09:50 from WP to OWO directly...not currently Aug 23 20:10:03 its all been individual developers. Aug 23 20:10:16 ok Aug 23 20:10:29 panda-z: thnx running now :D Aug 23 20:10:35 let me get the governance stuff runnig Aug 23 20:10:35 stefan_schmidt: I sent two changes in the last days: http://www.webos-ports.org/wiki/Upstream_Submission_Status Aug 23 20:10:41 ka6sox-away: thanks Aug 23 20:10:44 Just wondering if there was a continuous flow of patches Aug 23 20:11:02 now I need to remember where the governance page is...I put it up so long ago. Aug 23 20:13:26 Herrie, I'm running thru now but if you feel like adding links to the Licenses I posted on the governance page at the bottom that would be helpful I think. Aug 23 20:14:07 dang...15months ago Aug 23 20:14:59 stefan_schmidt: in the beginning we did a lot fixing in meta-webos which went upstream Aug 23 20:15:14 morphis: cool Aug 23 20:15:17 but in the last months there were only smaller things Aug 23 20:15:44 ka6sox: http://webos-ports.org/wiki/Governance_model ? Aug 23 20:15:44 it is unknown by me as to whether we have diverged so much that anything we do is not applicable. Aug 23 20:15:57 Herrie, yes, contribution process Aug 23 20:16:02 I need to clean that up a bit Aug 23 20:16:07 morphis: Garfonso might have some things for the ical and vcard things once we progress further. He mentioned some bugs in them. Aug 23 20:16:17 There were a couple things that were similarish I found Aug 23 20:16:20 ka6sox-away, stefan_schmidt: we're still using everything from OWO which is below the UI Aug 23 20:16:38 morphis: makes sense Aug 23 20:16:45 morphis, are we not further along than them? Aug 23 20:16:57 (like OWO only is using 4.8 of Qt) Aug 23 20:16:57 http://webos-ports.org/wiki/ContributionGuideline Aug 23 20:17:36 OWO's supposed to be on 5 for a long time already but I keep getting IGNORE from both Roy & Enda on requests for status updates and a proper blog update Aug 23 20:17:39 okay the 3 lines I just added need to go there. Aug 23 20:17:41 Been 6 months soon since last update Aug 23 20:17:53 yup Aug 23 20:18:02 classic sign of a stale project.... Aug 23 20:18:14 And lots of things were supposed to hit public repo long time ago Aug 23 20:18:16 ka6sox-away: we're reuing parts of luna-sysmgr/luna-sysmgr-common but mostly nothing usable for upstream Aug 23 20:18:16 @Herrie I'm not ignoring you... Aug 23 20:18:21 Media components, Bluez ;) Aug 23 20:18:25 I'm just really slow to respond. Aug 23 20:18:35 Roy, I know you probably have some NDA from LGe ;) Aug 23 20:18:44 Roy__: hey! Aug 23 20:18:57 I see lots of good commits on GitHub just there's tons of things MISSING from last year's promises still! Aug 23 20:19:18 Some pretty big changes to the repos soon, as I understand it. Aug 23 20:19:25 Martin's been busy on some things. Aug 23 20:21:27 Roy__: yeah, saw his announcement Aug 23 20:22:09 "We will continue to innovate and develop for Open webOS over the coming months, including the following planned enhancements: " Qt5 / WebKit2, Open sourced media and audio components, BlueZ Bluetooth stack, ConnMan network management and Optimized SysMgr rendering architecture. That's from September last year... Aug 23 20:22:21 Then from December; "Also, the complete rewrite of mediaServer has been completed and is now undergoing internal QA testing, look for this to hit the repos in the coming weeks." Aug 23 20:22:48 mediaServer proved to be a lot more difficult than I hoped. Aug 23 20:25:00 People understand delays problems, bumps etc ;) We understand transition to LG caused quite some difficulties as well, but communication with the community is key ;) Aug 23 20:25:05 Even if it's just a little ;) Aug 23 20:25:21 I know Ares2 SDK is in the works for example :P Aug 23 20:25:30 Saw references to it in Enyo ;) Aug 23 20:33:11 morphis/panda-z: Is it normal my mouse doesn't work in the image? Aug 23 20:33:27 Herrie: yes Aug 23 20:33:48 Ok any way I can control then? Which keys etc? Might write something up for the Wiki :) Aug 23 20:33:58 Herrie: nothing yet .. Aug 23 20:34:13 we meed to add some tweaks to make it usable Aug 23 20:34:42 Ah ok ;) So it just starts with butterfly bg and some dummy luna's ? Aug 23 20:38:44 Herrie: it's already a lot more :) Aug 23 20:43:23 Ah ok, well that's the image I'm running dated y'day :P Aug 23 20:43:54 webos-ports-dev-image-qemux86-64.vmdk 22-Aug-2013 16:24 341508096 Aug 23 20:45:49 Herrie: there is already a lot going on in the background Aug 23 20:46:16 like the new webappmanager is now already able to run apps but the UI doesn't use it yet Aug 23 20:47:47 I see ;) Hope that when I get done with Wiki might be able to play with QML or Enyo a bit ;) Aug 23 20:51:50 Herrie: you can try running files.gravedo.de/vbox_mouse_init in the VM to get the cursor visible Aug 23 20:54:43 Ok how i do that ;) ? Aug 23 20:54:50 Sorry not playing so much with this stuff Aug 23 20:55:01 Herrie: download it Aug 23 20:55:10 ah you need ssh access to the vm .. Aug 23 20:55:14 or a shared folder Aug 23 20:56:58 Shared folders never work for me for some reason :S Aug 23 20:57:07 I always end up copying to USB and accessing from there Aug 23 20:58:11 But not sure where a USB stick would get mounted? Aug 23 20:58:40 Herrie: try to mount it manually Aug 23 20:58:48 look with dmesg which device node it gets Aug 23 20:59:03 Ok usually Ubuntu does it for me in GUI so I don't bother about this stuff LOL Aug 23 20:59:08 I know I'm lazy ;) Aug 23 20:59:56 :) Aug 23 21:00:43 dmesg doesn't seem to give anything? I assume it should be last entry? Aug 23 21:01:09 Ah wait ;) Aug 23 21:02:01 usb 1-1: New full speed usb device number 2 using ohci_hcd Aug 23 21:09:56 Herrie: can you write down the steps to setup the VM? Aug 23 21:11:02 Yeah will do that probably tomorrow Aug 23 21:12:25 great Aug 23 21:14:33 Garfonso: Testing against my Owncloud server now. basic http auth works and account gets created. Aug 23 21:14:49 Sync is not working though and the log is really noisy. Aug 23 21:15:54 I'm going to trim this down to focus on he principal stuff for address book and calendar detection Aug 23 21:35:03 Time to call it a day Aug 23 21:35:09 night all Aug 23 21:40:23 stefan_schmidt: yes, this commit: https://github.com/Garfonso/org.webosports.service.contacts.carddav/commit/45e5130bbe5a992f82ff444a9936da255ee71af9 Aug 23 21:40:23 might solve your issues. Aug 23 21:41:43 Garfonso: already thought so and cherry picked it did not fix my problem Aug 23 21:41:54 k. ;) Aug 23 21:41:56 Garfonso: going to push your commit into master now Aug 23 21:42:00 And off to bed then Aug 23 21:42:06 good night Aug 23 21:42:12 Will have another look at what fails for my setup Aug 23 21:42:52 night Aug 23 21:43:45 Garfonso: change is now in master Aug 23 21:49:26 will be off, too. Good Night. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Aug 24 02:59:58 2013