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Aug 24 12:20:37 <Herrie> Seems like physical keyboards are returning :D http://www.engadget.com/2013/08/23/verizon-motorola-droid-5-leak/
Aug 24 13:31:02 <Herrie> morphis/panda-z: Ping, seems like I cannot get the mouse working due to missing guest additions. I've mounted the Guest Additions ISO in VirtualBox but seems it doesn't do anything when I press "Install Guest Additions". Any ideas?
Aug 24 13:32:10 <morphis> Herrie: the guest additions are already installed
Aug 24 13:32:22 <morphis> and there is nothing you can currently do to get the mouse working
Aug 24 13:32:32 <morphis> I have this already on the list of things I have to do
Aug 24 13:33:15 <Herrie> Ah ok :)
Aug 24 13:33:16 <Herrie> Thnx
Aug 24 13:34:18 <Herrie> "vboxguest module open failed: 2" is what I get?
Aug 24 13:41:20 <morphis> Herrie: I will have a look later
Aug 24 13:41:44 <morphis> Herrie: can you create a bug report for it?
Aug 24 13:45:54 <morphis> Tofe|Away: all changes to launch web applications are now in master, simply: luna-send -n 1 palm://com.palm.applicationManager/launch '{"id":"org.webosports.app.memos"}'
Aug 24 13:52:38 <Herrie> Where you want me to create it?
Aug 24 13:52:40 <Herrie> Trello?
Aug 24 13:55:25 <morphis> http://issues.webos-ports.org/projects/ports
Aug 24 13:58:04 <morphis> that need to be cleaned up later too but we should still use it for bug tracking
Aug 24 14:02:47 <Herrie> OK
Aug 24 14:03:10 <Herrie> Let me first try some new Vbox to see if that sorts it... will try to see if I can use LG's script on Windows with some changes
Aug 24 14:59:08 <Herrie> OK same result with LG parameters on VBox
Aug 24 15:06:30 <Herrie> Bug #425 created
Aug 24 15:11:53 <ka6sox> Herrie, is that a bug in ours or LG's?
Aug 24 15:11:54 <panda-z> Herrie, morphis: I've also met "vboxguest module open failed: 2" under linux
Aug 24 15:12:56 <morphis> Herrie, panda-z: can you add information about which image etc. you're using?
Aug 24 15:13:09 <morphis> ka6sox: ours
Aug 24 15:13:46 <panda-z> morphis: i'm using the latest qemux86 image from build.webos-ports.org
Aug 24 15:14:05 <morphis> panda-z: please add the link to the bug report
Aug 24 15:15:05 <panda-z> morphis: and luna-webappmanager is crashed on system start up
Aug 24 15:15:31 <morphis> panda-z: please file a bug report for this too
Aug 24 15:15:57 <morphis> panda-z: and please check journalctl --no-pager for any relevant log output related to the issue
Aug 24 15:17:36 <panda-z> need to reboot to get into linux, brb
Aug 24 15:17:53 <morphis> Herrie: http://www.webos-ports.org/wiki/Bug_Report_guidelines
Aug 24 15:18:50 <morphis> ka6sox, JaMa: we should really add a script to our images which automates the needed output for bug reports
Aug 24 15:28:49 <ka6sox> yawn...sure....let me get coffee
Aug 24 15:29:42 <morphis> panda-z: http://www.webos-ports.org/wiki/Bug_Report_guidelines
Aug 24 15:29:45 <morphis> ka6sox: sure :)
Aug 24 15:30:32 <panda-z> I forgot my username on http://issues.webos-ports.org:-(
Aug 24 15:31:19 <ka6sox> panda-z I can look it up.
Aug 24 15:41:29 <stefan_schmidt> morphis: Looking into building maliit remebers me how much I hate qmake as a build system
Aug 24 15:41:42 <morphis> stefan_schmidt: :)
Aug 24 15:41:57 <morphis> stefan_schmidt: but it should be pretty simple from what I saw
Aug 24 15:42:48 <stefan_schmidt> morphis: maybe I'm tackling it to complicated.
Aug 24 15:43:20 <stefan_schmidt> morphis: I tok it out of the webos-ports blacklist, updated the src revs for the master branch and replaced some qt4 pathes with qt5
Aug 24 15:43:38 <stefan_schmidt> And had to disable to patches that don't apply anymore
Aug 24 15:43:38 <morphis> stefan_schmidt: like this https://github.com/webOS-ports/meta-webos-ports/blob/master/recipes-qt/snowshoe/snowshoe_git.bb#L18
Aug 24 15:43:46 <morphis> ok
Aug 24 15:43:55 <panda-z> morphis: How can I ssh into virtualbox?
Aug 24 15:43:56 <stefan_schmidt> Its builds but complains to have no target for make install...
Aug 24 15:44:18 <morphis> stefan_schmidt: hm, maybe it doesn't defines any targets in it's pro file
Aug 24 15:44:38 <morphis> panda-z: you're using https://github.com/webOS-ports/meta-webos-ports/blob/master/scripts/webosvbox ?
Aug 24 15:44:40 <stefan_schmidt> morphis: the default instruction say qmake && make && make install so it should
Aug 24 15:44:46 <morphis> :)
Aug 24 15:44:47 <stefan_schmidt> morphis: I will keep digging after a break
Aug 24 15:45:36 <panda-z> morphis: no, should i use that script?
Aug 24 15:47:35 <panda-z> morphis: it says "/home/panda/work/wop/meta-webos-ports/scripts does not appear to be a build directory. Exiting"
Aug 24 15:48:15 <morphis> panda-z: one moment
Aug 24 15:48:59 <morphis> panda-z: use the script from here: https://github.com/webOS-ports/webos-ports-sdk
Aug 24 15:49:12 <morphis> it's modified so it should work outside a build-webos environment
Aug 24 15:50:04 <panda-z> ok, i'll have a try
Aug 24 15:51:17 <morphis> panda-z: the README should help
Aug 24 15:51:39 <morphis> panda-z: ah and if you want you can extend the README so it's easier for other users to follow the process
Aug 24 15:58:55 <panda-z> morphis: thanks, but it didn't work
Aug 24 15:59:10 <morphis> panda-z: what the output?
Aug 24 15:59:31 <panda-z> morphis: the vm has been set up correctly, but still cann't ssh into vm
Aug 24 15:59:37 <morphis> panda-z: ah
Aug 24 15:59:58 <morphis> panda-z: scripts/webosvbox -n webos-ports-dev ssh
Aug 24 16:00:03 <morphis> that should do the trick
Aug 24 16:00:18 <morphis> it forwards the port 5522 of the vm to localhost
Aug 24 16:00:34 <morphis> so ssh -P 5522 root@localhost should work too
Aug 24 16:01:15 <ka6sox> not webos-ports-dev@localhost?
Aug 24 16:01:23 * ka6sox is trying to follow along
Aug 24 16:02:11 <panda-z> morphis: will try that. one more thing: my keyboard sometimes don't work in wm, i can't input anything in that case
Aug 24 16:02:25 <morphis> ka6sox: no
Aug 24 16:02:31 <ka6sox> ok
Aug 24 16:02:37 <morphis> ka6sox: -n is just for the box name
Aug 24 16:02:51 <morphis> panda-z: on the console?
Aug 24 16:03:06 <panda-z> yes
Aug 24 16:03:39 <panda-z> "./scripts/webosvbox -n webos-ports-dev ssh" works now
Aug 24 16:05:08 <ka6sox> morphis, okay
Aug 24 16:05:10 <ka6sox> trying now
Aug 24 16:05:18 <panda-z> morphis: next question, how can i copy output from ssh terminal? should i need a shared folder?
Aug 24 16:05:54 <ka6sox> panda-z, I use screen and turn on logging
Aug 24 16:06:01 <morphis> panda-z: either you use scp or you create a shared folder
Aug 24 16:06:15 <panda-z> k
Aug 24 16:06:43 <morphis> panda-z: the webosvbox script should really offer a option for this too
Aug 24 16:11:08 <panda-z> morphis: http://pastebin.com/dPnsiqZu is the log
Aug 24 16:12:05 <morphis> panda-z: ok, please attach it to the bug
Aug 24 16:12:19 <panda-z> morphis: should luna-webappmanager start after luna-next?
Aug 24 16:13:25 <morphis> luna-next should also work when luna-webappmanager is started afterwards
Aug 24 16:20:24 <ka6sox> Herrie, should I expand on the license information in the contributions guidelines page
Aug 24 16:20:25 <ka6sox> ?
Aug 24 16:25:35 <morphis> Herrie: I think that would be great
Aug 24 16:25:42 <Herrie> ka6sox: That's up to you ;) If you think that's necessary ;)
Aug 24 16:26:05 <Herrie> I guess it might help ;) I never really looked into licenses too much to be honest ;)
Aug 24 16:30:28 <panda-z> new bug created, #427
Aug 24 16:31:52 <ka6sox> Herrie, ya its part of Governance and I forgot to add them earlier
Aug 24 16:32:18 <ka6sox> Herrie, how soon till new front page?
Aug 24 16:33:58 * ka6sox likes new design :)
Aug 24 16:35:23 <morphis> Herrie: yeah, we want the new front page!
Aug 24 16:36:45 <ka6sox> Herrie, also can we get this name changed: http://www.webos-ports.org/wiki/ContributionGuideline
Aug 24 16:36:51 <ka6sox> ContributionGuidelines
Aug 24 16:37:06 * ka6sox can't remember how to rename a page
Aug 24 16:44:04 <morphis> ka6sox: yeah mediawiki is black magic :)
Aug 24 16:47:31 <scoutcamper> whowhatnow?
Aug 24 16:47:58 <scoutcamper> ka6sox, i can rename a page
Aug 24 16:49:04 <scoutcamper> ka6sox, http://www.webos-ports.org/wiki/ContributionGuidelines
Aug 24 16:49:15 * scoutcamper knows mediawiki magic
Aug 24 16:53:06 <ka6sox> scoutcamper, ty
Aug 24 16:54:52 <morphis> ka6sox, scoutcamper: you remember the scaling problem we had initial with adapting owo?
Aug 24 17:05:36 <ka6sox> yes, it was awful
Aug 24 17:05:45 <ka6sox> we had to redo all the graphics
Aug 24 17:08:58 <morphis> that and we had to set the zoom factor of the webview
Aug 24 17:09:15 <morphis> same story appears again :)
Aug 24 17:11:45 <morphis> ka6sox: https://github.com/webOS-ports/luna-webappmanager/commit/691e8045b3504467e94cd1db70f6cddb0796c91c
Aug 24 17:35:51 <ka6sox> morphis, this looks somewhat familiar...
Aug 24 17:37:52 <morphis> :)
Aug 24 17:48:32 <morphis> ka6sox: but it's not working and it seems to be a qtwebkit bug
Aug 24 17:58:59 <Herrie> ka6sox/morphis: Sorry been busy this week, hope to get some remaining bits sorted in the next days/week and we should be good for new home page
Aug 24 17:59:12 <morphis> Herrie: no problem
Aug 24 17:59:50 <ka6sox> morphis, bummers
Aug 24 17:59:53 <ka6sox> Herrie, np
Aug 24 17:59:59 <ka6sox> morning WhiteBee
Aug 24 18:08:28 <WhiteBee> ka6sox: hello
Aug 24 18:08:37 <WhiteBee> what's up?
Aug 24 18:12:13 <ka6sox> just saying Hi...
Aug 24 18:12:21 <ka6sox> whats hapening?
Aug 24 18:12:27 <ka6sox> +p
Aug 24 18:13:04 <WhiteBee> ka6sox: just forked the contacts app, will finish reading the enyo docs and get on with work
Aug 24 18:14:08 <ka6sox> WhiteBee, excellent...
Aug 24 18:43:38 <Tofe> morning
Aug 24 18:44:06 <morphis> Tofe: morning
Aug 24 18:44:33 <Tofe> Can't get past this annoying gcc thing -- if that is actually the cause for me, of course
Aug 24 18:45:05 <Tofe> So for my immediate testing, maybe I should simply use the qemuarm image ?
Aug 24 18:45:21 <Tofe> Anyway I'm curious about it :)
Aug 24 18:50:15 <Tofe> What image was the best one, so far ?
Aug 24 18:50:32 <Tofe> Maybe I simply take webos-ports-dev-image-qemux86-64.vmdk
Aug 24 19:00:04 <morphis> Tofe: sorry, remind me: which gcc issue?
Aug 24 19:00:17 <Tofe> the gcc 4.8 memset issue
Aug 24 19:00:20 <morphis> ah right
Aug 24 19:00:28 <morphis> Tofe: better use qemux86
Aug 24 19:00:34 <morphis> or qemux86-64
Aug 24 19:00:42 <Tofe> yep, ok
Aug 24 19:00:59 <morphis> Tofe: I know such things are hard to debug
Aug 24 19:01:22 <Tofe> I know too :)
Aug 24 19:05:13 <morphis> Tofe: especially when you don't have a serial cable
Aug 24 19:06:00 <Tofe> yes, it's only adb here
Aug 24 19:06:40 <morphis> Tofe: it's immeditally rebooting?
Aug 24 19:07:07 <Tofe> not really immediately, but after 10sec
Aug 24 19:07:21 <Tofe> I never could make adb detect the device, though
Aug 24 19:07:36 <Tofe> so I don't think it goes until init
Aug 24 19:08:39 <morphis> Tofe: you still have an old kernel?
Aug 24 19:08:54 <morphis> one compiled with gcc-47?
Aug 24 19:09:11 <Tofe> not at home
Aug 24 19:09:18 <Tofe> oh, maybe on build.wop ?
Aug 24 19:11:45 <Tofe> when was the last time a rebuild with gcc 4.7 was done on jenkins ?
Aug 24 19:12:06 <Tofe> well, anyway I didn't touch the kernel those last three months...
Aug 24 19:14:19 <Tofe> Quite stupid of me not keeping a working kernel around...
Aug 24 19:17:37 <morphis> I had luck
Aug 24 19:17:58 <morphis> and I didn't reflashed the kernel when we switch to gcc-4.8
Aug 24 19:19:01 <Tofe> mmh I took a fastboot image on build.wop.org from beginning of august, and it still reboots; was it already using gcc 4.8 ?
Aug 24 19:21:27 <ka6sox> Tofe, did you get email?
Aug 24 19:22:36 <Tofe> ka6sox: not yet
Aug 24 19:23:21 <morphis> Tofe: maybe
Aug 24 19:28:22 <morphis> Tofe: and applying the two patches didn't helped?
Aug 24 19:28:47 <Tofe> well, it looks like it reboots later than before
Aug 24 19:30:44 <Tofe> yes, quite sure about that. So, in the end, maybe there's something else, maybe systemd fails at some early stage. After all, it's also the first time I'm trying webos-ports/master
Aug 24 19:31:11 <morphis> ah
Aug 24 19:31:16 <morphis> so the first time with systemd?
Aug 24 19:31:28 <Tofe> no, systemd was already in dylan
Aug 24 19:31:51 <Tofe> (last time I tried, at least, it seemed much faster)
Aug 24 19:33:44 <morphis> hm
Aug 24 19:33:55 <Tofe> there isn't any trace of the fact that systemd boots up ?
Aug 24 19:33:57 <morphis> you compiled your kernel with OE?
Aug 24 19:34:18 <Tofe> yep
Aug 24 19:34:23 <morphis> nothing you can see on the screen
Aug 24 19:34:30 <Tofe> nope
Aug 24 19:34:48 <morphis> what about enabling the screen console?
Aug 24 19:35:26 <Tofe> I can do that; it's simply incompatible with my extended framebuffer, but it doesn't matter here
Aug 24 19:36:47 <morphis> that would be a least worth too try
Aug 24 19:37:07 <morphis> Tofe: btw. with the latest changes I did you should now be able to run webapps
Aug 24 19:38:17 <Tofe> :) kool
Aug 24 19:47:41 <ka6sox> okay I will send to you then.
Aug 24 20:25:03 <morphis> Tofe: but emulator is going to work already quite fine
Aug 24 20:25:11 <morphis> mouse interaction is missing
Aug 24 20:25:17 <morphis> but everything else seem to work
Aug 24 20:28:40 <morphis> Tofe: ah and somehow the reticle is gone after your latest changes
Aug 24 20:34:37 <morphis> ok, scaled webapps are back now with luna-next: http://files.gravedo.de/CIMG0124.jpg
Aug 24 20:34:52 <morphis> ka6sox, Tofe: ^^
Aug 24 20:42:39 <Tofe> Yeah !
Aug 24 20:46:50 <ka6sox> morphis, yay!
Aug 24 20:47:37 <morphis> still needs a lot fixes before this is really usable but we're coming closer
Aug 24 20:49:20 <morphis> Tofe: as next thing I want to get the window management rock solid
Aug 24 20:49:45 <morphis> it's a little bit annoying a card is closed but the app is still running
Aug 24 20:49:56 <Herrie> morphis: How's the video acceleration now? No more lagginess?
Aug 24 20:50:09 <morphis> Herrie: it's better
Aug 24 20:50:22 <morphis> it's not perfect but a lot better
Aug 24 20:50:28 <Herrie> I see :)
Aug 24 20:50:37 <Herrie> Any ideas what's preventing it from being perfect?
Aug 24 20:50:46 <Herrie> Wayland itself or .... ?
Aug 24 20:50:53 <morphis> Herrie: no, at lot of small things
Aug 24 20:51:05 <morphis> it's fine tuning
Aug 24 20:51:23 <Herrie> Ah ok :)
Aug 24 20:51:33 <Herrie> Well good to see that Luna Next seems to pay off at least :D
Aug 24 20:51:44 <Tofe> morphis: yes, I need to review that
Aug 24 20:51:46 <morphis> getting acceleration is easy but getting it fast is a very hard job
Aug 24 20:51:47 <Herrie> That was one of the purposes right ;) ?
Aug 24 20:51:53 <morphis> Herrie: yes
Aug 24 20:52:29 <Herrie> Great work :D
Aug 24 20:52:35 <Herrie> Anyway off to bed soon ;)
Aug 24 20:52:41 <Herrie> Gnite ;)
Aug 24 20:52:49 <Tofe> nite !
Aug 24 20:53:11 <Tofe> ... and the same for me :) Bye !
Aug 24 20:53:16 <morphis> bye
Aug 24 20:53:30 <Tofe> ka6sox: didn't receive any email yet, by the way
Aug 24 21:10:41 <ka6sox> nite
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