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Sep 20 11:05:30 <Tofe> morning
Sep 20 11:06:40 <morphis> Tofe: morning
Sep 20 11:08:47 <Tofe> morphis: in parallel to the back swipe work, I wanted to begin the notification controller (in C++, exposed in QML)
Sep 20 11:08:59 <morphis> Tofe: ok
Sep 20 11:09:09 <morphis> Tofe: we should then talk a little bit about possible notifications types
Sep 20 11:09:25 <Tofe> morphis: yes, so that I don't miss one
Sep 20 11:09:53 <Tofe> my first objective was a simple banner notification
Sep 20 11:09:55 <morphis> I am not sure wether we should support the same types which the old UI supports
Sep 20 11:10:29 <Tofe> morphis: but that would break compatibility, isn't it ?
Sep 20 11:10:37 <morphis> it would
Sep 20 11:10:55 <morphis> but I am not completely sure about if we should maintain 100% compatiblity
Sep 20 11:11:36 <morphis> as I am currently at a point in the webappmanager where we need to implement different complex features like nowindow supports and I think it would be better to make things easier and better maintainable
Sep 20 11:12:04 <Tofe> mmh.
Sep 20 11:12:24 <morphis> I think banner notifications need to be supported
Sep 20 11:12:52 <morphis> but I would like to remove the popup or dashboard notifications and reimplement them with a simpler variant
Sep 20 11:13:08 <Tofe> dashboard ones are the interactive ones ?
Sep 20 11:13:16 <morphis> yes
Sep 20 11:13:20 <morphis> Tofe: https://developer.palm.com/content/api/dev-guide/mojo/dashboards-notifications.html
Sep 20 11:13:58 <morphis> I would like to replace the dashboard notification with a configurable QML based notification type
Sep 20 11:14:33 <Tofe> and we can merge popup and dashboard, I guess
Sep 20 11:14:36 <morphis> so you can say: I need three buttons with the label xyz, a message and this icon
Sep 20 11:15:54 <Tofe> It's worth a try
Sep 20 11:16:09 <morphis> http://www.galago-project.org/specs/notification/0.9/
Sep 20 11:16:15 <Tofe> and definitely easier to integrate in our luna-next :)
Sep 20 11:16:34 <morphis> :)
Sep 20 11:17:33 <morphis> Tofe: or have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NotifyOSD
Sep 20 11:17:53 <Tofe> so the developers would mix a bit html, js and qml; that's not really shocking
Sep 20 11:18:13 <morphis> yes
Sep 20 11:18:23 <morphis> we will need some notification manager daemon for this
Sep 20 11:18:55 <morphis> so the cardshell just subscribes to the notification manager for possible notifications and displays them where the manager offers a simple ls2 based API to create notifications
Sep 20 11:19:14 <morphis> this can then we either used directly by an application or be mapped to the existing banner notification API
Sep 20 11:19:19 <Tofe> exactly what I thought it would be
Sep 20 11:19:23 <Tofe> :)
Sep 20 11:19:33 <morphis> great :)
Sep 20 11:20:00 <morphis> I will see if I get some time to prototype a simple notification manager
Sep 20 11:21:31 <Tofe> If you make a very, very simple (just a text in param, and just one simple signal) one I can complete it afterward
Sep 20 11:22:00 <Tofe> it's mainly the ls2 subscription that I'm not very comfortable with
Sep 20 11:28:07 <morphis> Tofe: see subscriptions as callback
Sep 20 11:28:22 <morphis> you subscribe once and then get called back every time the service wants to
Sep 20 11:37:01 <Tofe> morphis: yes yes, no problem with that, I'm speaking about how to put that in place with LS2, with the public/private service, and so on
Sep 20 11:45:37 <morphis> so you need some explanation on this?
Sep 20 12:21:44 <Tofe> well, I think I could work out how to implement that myself, it's just about how you want to split the task
Sep 20 12:23:07 <Tofe> (luna-next already subscribes itself on the LS2 bus, so I would have an example, rather simple)
Sep 20 17:03:52 <Tofe> morphis: oh, we don't have Qt Layouts ?
Sep 20 17:35:57 <Tofe> mmmh wop-setup/master seems a bit broken
Sep 20 17:48:13 <JaMa> Tofe: what's wrong?
Sep 20 20:14:55 <Tofe> ERROR: ExpansionError during parsing /media/Volatile/OpenWebOS/webos-ports-env/webos-ports/meta-webos-ports/recipes-core/images/webos-ports-image.bb: Failure expanding variable rootfs_remove_unneeded: TypeError: 'NoneType' object is not iterable
Sep 20 20:15:44 <Tofe> morphis: but that should be a consequence of the fact that the git srcrev given for oe-core is not found
Sep 20 20:30:52 <JaMa> Tofe: fca479f56999341da599c5c55b3737326f1ab1a5 cannot be found?
Sep 20 20:32:01 <JaMa> can you try again? I've pushed it tagged as webOS-ports/master-2013-09-16
Sep 20 21:24:50 <JaMa> morphis: my "upstream" world builds suffer from the same android-tools build error, but locally it also works for me
Sep 20 23:50:37 <Darakian> Hey all
Sep 20 23:51:00 <Darakian> quick question, is anyone using open webos on their phone as a daily driver yet?
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