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Oct 23 08:51:08 <Tofe> morning
Oct 23 09:24:21 <morphis> Tofe: morning
Oct 23 09:31:51 <morphis> Tofe: btw. "windowWrapper.height = Qt.binding(function() { return childWrapper.height })" can that be correct?
Oct 23 09:31:57 <morphis> ah sorry
Oct 23 09:32:01 <morphis> ignore it
Oct 23 09:34:54 <Tofe> morphis: :)
Oct 23 09:35:22 <morphis> Tofe: btw. the overlay window has a size of 800x1250 when it gets created on the N7
Oct 23 09:42:04 <morphis> so that is ok
Oct 23 09:44:29 <morphis> Tofe: you saw https://github.com/nemomobile/lipstick-colorful-home/blob/qt5/src/qml/compositor/WindowWrapperAlpha.qml?
Oct 23 09:49:09 <morphis> Tofe: so it seems to me like it's only a matter of how we display the overlay window
Oct 23 09:49:56 <morphis> Tofe: if'we displaying it maxizmized with 800x1250 and add tranparency we should be fine
Oct 23 09:50:36 <morphis> we just need to make sure then that touch events go through the not visible part of the overlay window the window lying below
Oct 23 10:58:29 <Tofe> morphis: ok, I'll have a look
Oct 23 12:00:20 <morphis> Tofe: btw. one problem I sometimes when I launch an app: after I clicked on the launcher item the app doesn't start and I have to click somewhere on the screen again to get the card visible
Oct 23 12:13:07 <Tofe> yes, I've seen that too sometimes, I don't clearly know where that comes from
Oct 23 13:02:38 <cobblemonster> ? is the webOS-ports-template in it final feasti
Oct 23 13:03:15 <cobblemonster> ?dum key board lets try that again
Oct 23 13:04:31 <cobblemonster> is webOS-ports-template in it final resting place I was think of adding it ti ares did
Oct 23 13:04:36 <cobblemonster> IDE
Oct 23 13:05:05 <Herrie> Cobblemonster: You need a proper keyboard LOL ;)
Oct 23 13:05:16 <Herrie> Too many spelling mistakes to understand sorry :(
Oct 23 13:06:35 <cobblemonster> aim set up to pull request in too ares to add if it is
Oct 23 13:07:39 <cobblemonster> no Niger keys for fat fingers!
Oct 23 13:08:00 <cobblemonster> ?? bigger
Oct 23 13:10:08 <cobblemonster> and better auto fix
Oct 23 13:12:38 <cobblemonster> your   ( webOS-ports-template    ) on git hub is it in it final lace
Oct 23 13:13:11 <cobblemonster> place to pull from
Oct 23 13:25:34 <Cobblemonster> ok lets try this on a desktop keyboard
Oct 23 13:27:32 <Cobblemonster> Ares IDE   has templates that it can down load to set up projects! if i was to add a new template to it From (webos-ports) is you in it final place for down loading
Oct 23 13:27:43 <Cobblemonster> or are you going to move it
Oct 23 13:35:46 <morphis> Cobblemonster: afaik we don't have a template for ares
Oct 23 14:14:36 <HaDAk> mornin' guys
Oct 23 14:20:11 <morphis> HaDAk: hey
Oct 23 14:20:32 <HaDAk> my grouper rebooted itself while sitting on the charger with the latest image
Oct 23 14:20:36 <HaDAk> :(
Oct 23 14:24:53 <HaDAk> hey morphis, check this out: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/3319019
Oct 23 14:26:41 <HaDAk> i was thinking about making it check to see if the device is supported, but that will only work if you're running android and not updating your build install
Oct 23 14:27:00 <morphis> HaDAk: no, that should also be possible with our build
Oct 23 14:27:05 <morphis> getprop is still available
Oct 23 14:27:08 <HaDAk> oh, ok
Oct 23 14:27:20 <morphis> HaDAk: otherwise the script looks very nice :)
Oct 23 14:27:24 <HaDAk> after this install runs, i'll test it
Oct 23 14:27:40 <HaDAk> i'd have liked to have use getopts, but it doesn't work quite right in osx
Oct 23 14:27:54 <morphis> ok
Oct 23 14:28:07 <HaDAk> it's a hacky workaround, but it works as is
Oct 23 14:28:10 <morphis> HaDAk: btw. it would  be good to mention that people should do a backup before
Oct 23 14:28:23 <HaDAk> well, yeah
Oct 23 14:28:37 <HaDAk> they'll also need to have CWM and adb access
Oct 23 14:30:44 <Cobblemonster> morphis If you want to build one let know and i will add it to ares!     last night i was playing around and add    https://github.com/webOS-ports/webos-ports-template.git
Oct 23 14:30:50 <Cobblemonster> into my copy of ares
Oct 23 14:31:25 <morphis> Cobblemonster: worked fine?
Oct 23 14:34:29 <Cobblemonster> well it build the folder with you files in it but that was as far as i went last night.  Ii did not go on to build a project but seen no reason it would not
Oct 23 14:38:53 <morphis> Cobblemonster: is there a good howto about how you setup and use ares?
Oct 23 14:42:36 <Cobblemonster> morphis  it just came up in the ares preview so it worked :) So if WebOS-ports wants a to do a  (webos-ports template) for ares
Oct 23 14:42:36 <Cobblemonster> on windos or linux
Oct 23 14:43:06 <morphis> would be nice to have one
Oct 23 14:45:31 <Cobblemonster> the contribute.md in ares has it   one for a new setup and one for a update  not that hard if i can do it (self taught programer or want to be )
Oct 23 14:46:56 <Cobblemonster> it three steeps  1. gitclone       2. install the npm       3. run ares
Oct 23 16:22:25 <morphis> Cobblemonster: https://github.com/webOS-ports/webos-ports-template/pull/4 is from you?
Oct 23 16:26:15 <morphis> Cobblemonster: would be great if you can update the other libs too
Oct 23 16:26:34 <Cobblemonster> yes
Oct 23 16:28:01 <Cobblemonster> i can update them too was wondering about the line ending iam change them
Oct 23 16:30:21 <Cobblemonster> what i was thinking was too update them and then seeing  if i can get HP too added it as a template
Oct 23 16:31:47 <morphis> Cobblemonster: that would be nice
Oct 23 16:32:03 <Cobblemonster> ok will do :)
Oct 23 16:34:10 <morphis> Cobblemonster: we're still missing a good common base for all our applications
Oct 23 16:34:21 <morphis> and one users can easily use a start to create own for our platform
Oct 23 16:35:13 <morphis> Cobblemonster: maybe you can add webos-lib or https://github.com/fxspec06/webOS-System-Extension too
Oct 23 16:36:13 <Cobblemonster> ok
Oct 23 16:52:27 <Herrie> HaDAk: Ping
Oct 23 16:56:19 <Herrie> Seems like HP is open for the idea to release some of the icons etc to us :) Can someone let me know which ones we'd like to have and I'll send them on to Enda ;)
Oct 23 16:59:42 <EricBlade> hmm. t-mobile offering free 200mb data plans to tablet customers, and offering tradeins for "any" tablet.  i have a feeling the remaining inventory of touchpads in the world is going to get smaller.
Oct 23 17:00:50 <Herrie> Could be :(
Oct 23 17:01:00 <Herrie> I saw LG today announced their first Firefox OS phone.....
Oct 23 17:03:56 <Herrie> Specs similar to Veer just 4+" big ;)
Oct 23 17:04:50 <HaDAk> Herrie: pong
Oct 23 17:06:20 <Herrie> See above ;) Seems like HP is not against us having some images from the Doctor, if we can provide Enda with a list ;)
Oct 23 17:06:29 <HaDAk> fantastic!
Oct 23 17:06:52 <HaDAk> EricBlade: trade in for what?
Oct 23 17:08:29 <EricBlade> presumably a new tablet
Oct 23 17:09:16 <HaDAk> i'd wager to guess not
Oct 23 17:09:27 <HaDAk> maybe a credit toward one though
Oct 23 17:09:43 <EricBlade> well yeah
Oct 23 17:10:23 <HaDAk> EricBlade: any idea how to use adb to change my serial number on a nexus 7 2013?
Oct 23 17:10:54 <HaDAk> i need to scam^N^N^N^Nhave best buy fix it
Oct 23 17:13:08 <Herrie> Vodafone here has cool 2nd free sim card with 4G speed for tablet with phone subscription :) Quite cool, just their 4GB limit sucks ;)
Oct 23 17:14:53 <EricBlade> Herrie: that'd be nice... apparently this new tmobile deal is 200MB straight up free
Oct 23 17:15:01 <EricBlade> don't have to be an existing customer
Oct 23 17:15:25 <HaDAk> i want that on a tablet.
Oct 23 17:15:40 <HaDAk> i don't have a 3g/4g tablet though
Oct 23 17:18:38 <Herrie> Well got a TP4G here... Which only gets HSDPA+... Cannot get my Sierra MC7710 to work for proper 4G :(
Oct 23 17:23:03 <ka6sox> Herrie, was it ever going to work on LTE?
Oct 23 17:23:04 <HaDAk> "technically" hspa+ is 4g.
Oct 23 17:23:13 <HaDAk> just like isdn is "broadband"
Oct 23 17:25:47 <ka6sox> well it may or may NOT be dialup.
Oct 23 17:29:38 <Herrie> You can replace the Ericsson module with a Sierra one it should be proper LTE. Well the MC7710 should work like the US MC7700 but webOS doesn't like it... It's OK on CM though... Looks like I might need to fiddle with firmware on my 7710 but haven't found any yet...
Oct 23 17:31:49 <EricBlade> i just restored a tp4g.. although i heard that the 3g doctor doesn't do it, it seemed to work fine
Oct 23 17:38:11 <Herrie> You have Ericsson or Sierra module? 3G Doctor should be fine with Ericsson, when you swapped it for a Sierra it could cause problems because it will try to flash the wrong modem firmware
Oct 23 17:47:07 <Cobblemonster> morphis: there you go check them out  i add the webos-lib   look like it was new
Oct 23 18:09:20 <EricBlade> herrie: i dunno, i took it out of the box, did a bunch of dev testing with it on synergv, and then set it aside.
Oct 23 18:16:18 <Herrie> Standard ones have Ericsson module, some test TP Go's had Sierra. Kernel in 3.0.x has support for both
Oct 23 18:16:36 <Herrie> But if it's an AT&T one, I'm 99,9999% sure it has an Ericsson module ;)
Oct 23 18:17:02 <HaDAk> http://i.imgur.com/hMIkwyE.png
Oct 23 18:17:05 <HaDAk> guys.
Oct 23 18:17:07 <HaDAk> netflix on webos.
Oct 23 18:17:09 <HaDAk> 'nuff said
Oct 23 18:17:54 <HaDAk> also, wtf? never knew this. http://www.webupd8.org/2013/08/pipelight-use-silverlight-in-your-linux.html
Oct 23 18:34:09 <Tofe> morphis: using a shader, it works a bit better; but we still have problems when we are inside a maximized card, or when we hide the keyboard
Oct 23 18:49:14 <Tofe> morphis: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4679068/luna-next/shader-keyboard.png <-- this is what I get with the shader in-between.
Oct 23 18:54:57 <Herrie> Tofe: Looks quite good already, would still prefer the webOS keyboard, but that should be easy enough to customize
Oct 23 18:55:04 <Herrie> Most important is that it will work first ;)
Oct 23 18:55:12 <HaDAk> functional first.
Oct 23 19:13:07 <morphis> Tofe: hm
Oct 23 19:14:40 <morphis> Tofe: but it looks like the keyboard gets the wrong width
Oct 23 19:15:00 <morphis> as it should resize to the screen width or is it static within they keyboard?
Oct 23 19:19:41 <morphis> Tofe: did you upload the change?
Oct 23 19:20:37 <Tofe> morphis: not yet, I have to find first a way to make it work a bit more: we still can't click anywhere else than the keyboard
Oct 23 19:21:07 <morphis> ok
Oct 23 19:21:31 <morphis> Tofe: maybe ask in #mer or #qt-lighthouse how to do this the right way
Oct 23 19:21:50 <Tofe> maybe
Oct 23 19:26:20 <HaDAk> is it possible to have the card window resize so the keyboard doesn't actually cover anything?
Oct 23 19:26:44 <Tofe> HaDAk: not yet
Oct 23 19:27:09 <morphis> Tofe: or #nemomobile
Oct 23 19:27:29 <Tofe> morphis: ah, yes, good idea
Oct 23 19:27:33 <HaDAk> eventually
Oct 23 19:28:35 <HaDAk> does the shutdown button in the power menu actually power off the device?
Oct 23 19:28:45 <HaDAk> i'd hate to have to let it charge for an hour to get it to turn on again
Oct 23 19:31:19 <morphis> have to leave
Oct 23 19:31:20 <morphis> gn8
Oct 23 19:31:58 <Tofe> gn8
Oct 23 23:59:07 <LarrySteeze> morphis: ping!
Oct 24 00:12:33 <LarrySteeze> anyone around?
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