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Oct 24 05:37:27 <morphis> LarrySteeze: pong
Oct 24 07:38:50 <morphis> Tofe|Away: ping
Oct 24 08:06:39 <Tofe> morphis: pong
Oct 24 08:06:53 <morphis> Tofe: looked a little bit more through maliit
Oct 24 08:07:06 <morphis> and it looks like the nemo keyboard and the maliit one go different ways
Oct 24 08:07:16 <Tofe> ah, sh*t
Oct 24 08:07:35 <morphis> the maliit (and the ubuntu one) are resizing the keyboard window to just take the space it needs
Oct 24 08:07:42 <morphis> the nemo one use the whole screen
Oct 24 08:07:56 <Tofe> as we saw, then
Oct 24 08:08:00 <morphis> the maliit one also create more than one overlay
Oct 24 08:08:13 <morphis> and also set a position for each overlay window
Oct 24 08:08:37 <Tofe> ah, like, for the key preview, it creates a little additional window
Oct 24 08:08:55 <morphis> yes or the magnifier
Oct 24 08:09:18 <morphis> Tofe: https://github.com/maliit/plugins/blob/master/maliit-keyboard/plugin/inputmethod.cpp#L368
Oct 24 08:09:51 <morphis> Tofe: so I think, we should just take the overlay as it is (not resize it or apply any alpha to it) and render it
Oct 24 08:10:09 <morphis> I am currently reactivating the maliit keyboard to see if it works
Oct 24 08:10:30 <Tofe> well, we are still not very good with handling multiple windows, are we
Oct 24 08:10:42 <morphis> multiple overlay windows?
Oct 24 08:10:56 <Tofe> for instance, yes
Oct 24 08:11:06 <morphis> I think we have to fix this then
Oct 24 08:11:26 <Tofe> ok, agreed.
Oct 24 08:12:10 <morphis> Tofe: you've time to work on this in tonight?
Oct 24 08:12:36 <Tofe> mmmh not tonight, I've got a social appointment :)
Oct 24 08:13:03 <Tofe> but then tomorrow evening, and most of the week-end if free
Oct 24 08:13:17 <Tofe> is*
Oct 24 08:13:49 <Tofe> anyway I can begin to sketch a prototype, implementing in QML is quick when you know what to do
Oct 24 08:14:09 <Tofe> for example, we must not force the position of maliit's window
Oct 24 08:15:08 <Tofe> we may as well not even use a wrapper window
Oct 24 08:16:58 <Tofe> Actually, that might be a good first try: not handling the overlay windows.
Oct 24 08:18:01 <morphis> :)
Oct 24 08:18:24 <morphis> Tofe: I am will wrap up a new build today with several components bump'ed and the maliit keyboard back
Oct 24 08:18:40 <Tofe> ok, good
Oct 24 08:21:15 <Tofe> and if you want to try my little idea, you just have to insert a test in __handleWindowAdded: do nothing if window.windowType==WindowType.Overlay
Oct 24 08:23:09 <morphis> ok
Oct 24 08:23:54 <Tofe> I think it might work, if the windows are set correctly on top of others
Oct 24 08:24:17 <morphis> maybe we just have to define an overlayer layer item and set the parent correctly
Oct 24 08:24:26 <morphis> without setting the anchor
Oct 24 08:25:42 <Tofe> something like that
Oct 24 08:28:58 <Tofe> We have to be careful, maliit already does some parenting between its various surfaces
Oct 24 08:30:02 <Tofe> It looks like it would work if we reparent only the surfaces that don't have a parent yet
Oct 24 08:33:06 <morphis> ok
Oct 24 08:33:57 <Tofe> but anyway, even without bothering about the z of the surface, I guess it would show up correctly at least the first time
Oct 24 08:42:54 <morphis> lets see
Oct 24 08:44:50 <Tofe> Note that in the future, this overlay layer could make a good candidate for some widgets or similar
Oct 24 08:45:30 <Tofe> But the completely free placement can also be a bit dangerous, so let's do one this maliit thing first
Oct 24 09:13:35 <morphis> Tofe: for sure
Oct 24 09:13:42 <morphis> Tofe: ok, got the maliit-keyboard working
Oct 24 09:13:57 <morphis> first time I touched the input field in the just type app it showed up
Oct 24 09:14:01 <morphis> on top of the screen
Oct 24 09:14:14 <morphis> used the fix you mentioned for __handleWindowAdded
Oct 24 09:14:56 <Tofe> great!
Oct 24 09:15:09 <Tofe> the keyboard works well ?
Oct 24 09:15:29 <morphis> default seems to be not the english one
Oct 24 09:15:42 <Tofe> can you hide it with swipe down on the keyboard ?
Oct 24 09:16:00 <morphis> no
Oct 24 09:16:03 <morphis> it stays
Oct 24 09:16:12 <Tofe> ok
Oct 24 09:16:20 <morphis> Tofe: I will prepare everything for you
Oct 24 09:16:30 <morphis> so you can get it working correctly
Oct 24 09:16:51 <Tofe> :) ok thanks
Oct 24 09:16:56 <morphis> btw. the thing why maliit died when using the maliit-keyboard was because of it setting a wrong surface format
Oct 24 09:17:07 <morphis> which wasn't accepted by our EGL driver
Oct 24 09:17:19 <Tofe> ah, ok, makes sense
Oct 24 09:17:23 <morphis> so it could never allocate a EGL context which leads qt to segfault
Oct 24 09:17:39 <Tofe> a bit rough, but logical
Oct 24 09:17:48 <morphis> yes
Oct 24 09:18:04 <morphis> it was setting a different surface format to make the view transparent
Oct 24 09:18:16 <Tofe> makeQuickViewTransparent
Oct 24 09:18:18 <morphis> lets see if its needed for any purpose or if we can just drop it
Oct 24 09:18:18 <morphis> yes
Oct 24 09:19:51 <Tofe> as far as I understand, it tries to get an ARGB view, which we already provide anyway
Oct 24 09:20:54 <Tofe> ok, but we seem to be on a good track with that keyboard
Oct 24 09:22:26 <morphis> :)
Oct 24 09:24:07 <Tofe> if not english layout, what would it be ?
Oct 24 09:40:14 <morphis> soem cyrilic
Oct 24 09:42:47 <Tofe> well, let's learn russian...
Oct 24 09:43:21 <Tofe> ... or change the default layout.
Oct 24 10:09:00 <Herrie> My wife would be happy with Russian LOL ;)
Oct 24 12:52:23 <morphis> Tofe: ok, new builds are queued
Oct 24 12:53:34 <Tofe> yepee
Oct 24 12:55:03 <Tofe> I can see the task 291, I'll download the image when it'll be finished
Oct 24 13:03:52 <HaDAk> make sure you mention when it's done
Oct 24 13:03:55 <HaDAk> so i can grab it too :)
Oct 24 13:26:10 <morphis> HaDAk: for sure :)
Oct 24 13:26:33 <HaDAk> yesterday morning's build looked pretty sexy. i'm hoping this build includes the keyboard.
Oct 24 13:27:10 <morphis> Tofe: https://github.com/webOS-ports/luna-next-cardshell/pull/33
Oct 24 13:27:21 <morphis> HaDAk: it does, but not really usable
Oct 24 13:28:17 <Tofe> HaDAk: and I guess it doesn't include the mini-fix I proposed to show maliit-keyboard overlay
Oct 24 13:28:48 <HaDAk> as long as a keyboard pops up, i'm happ(y/ier)
Oct 24 13:29:18 <Tofe> morphis: I'll see if I can move all those "utility" QML components in one place, so that main.qml stays a bit consistent
Oct 24 13:37:39 <Tofe> morphis: the task failed for libmaliit-keyboard-plugin
Oct 24 13:38:21 <Tofe> A tiny little missing Q_UNUSED(view); I'd say
Oct 24 14:16:41 <morphis> Tofe: no, the build failed cause of something different
Oct 24 14:16:49 <Tofe> ah, ok
Oct 24 14:18:44 <Tofe> morphis: I didn't see it when I merged, but is it normal that in Preferences.qml, in setPreference, you call subscribe ? For setting a preference value ?
Oct 24 14:23:40 <morphis> yes
Oct 24 14:23:46 <morphis> ah stop
Oct 24 14:23:57 <morphis> ah no, thats wrong
Oct 24 14:25:14 <morphis> Tofe: https://github.com/webOS-ports/luna-next-cardshell/pull/34
Oct 24 14:27:47 <Tofe> morphis: for maliit, I guess the keyboard appears on top of the gesture area ?
Oct 24 14:28:02 <morphis> yes
Oct 24 14:28:28 <Tofe> ok
Oct 24 14:48:09 <Tofe> morphis: is it me, or maliit always makes directly reference to the screen for positioning itself ?
Oct 24 15:47:24 <morphis> Tofe|Away: what do you mean with "directly references to the screen"?
Oct 24 15:54:51 <EricBlade> http://www.theverge.com/2013/10/24/5023912/hp-looking-to-sell-webos-and-other-mobile-patents-says-bloomberg
Oct 24 16:03:44 <Herrie> Yup read that earlier today... Well HP doesn't use it, so why not sell it..... Wondering who's interested (if anyone)....
Oct 24 16:17:43 <morphis> HaDAk: new emulator build has finished
Oct 24 16:18:06 <morphis> but afaik not yet sync'ed to build.webos-ports.org
Oct 24 16:28:13 <scoutcamper> Herrie, :/
Oct 24 16:46:15 <HaDAk> morphis: oh, emulator? i thought it was grouper
Oct 24 16:50:21 <morphis> HaDAk: grouper is still building
Oct 24 16:50:49 <HaDAk> kk
Oct 24 17:00:03 <morphis> HaDAk: btw. can you add your install script to https://github.com/webOS-ports/webos-ports-sdk?
Oct 24 17:04:53 <HaDAk> morphis: not until it's been tested and approved :)
Oct 24 17:05:18 <HaDAk> i mean, it's "good" right now, but i need other people to test it and make sure it works for them
Oct 24 17:05:24 <HaDAk> nobody has done that yet
Oct 24 17:05:32 <morphis> ok
Oct 24 17:10:38 <HaDAk> this is the latest version. just made a small, untested change. shouldn't be a problem, though. http://pastebin.mozilla.org/3327003
Oct 24 17:10:56 <HaDAk> maybe run it through a few times? test with downloading both kernel and image, then just kernel, then just image?
Oct 24 17:17:18 <Herrie> Like your ASCII art LOL ;)
Oct 24 17:25:04 <HaDAk> :)
Oct 24 17:29:04 <HaDAk> anyway. test it. try to break it. let me know if/how you do.
Oct 24 18:23:58 <HaDAk> anybody have a chance to test it?
Oct 24 18:25:47 <morphis> HaDAk: sorry, not yet
Oct 24 18:25:55 <HaDAk> no worries.
Oct 24 18:32:07 <morphis> JaMa|Off: ping
Oct 24 18:47:51 <morphis> HaDAk, Tofe|Away: new images are sync'ed now
Oct 24 18:48:01 <HaDAk> sweet.
Oct 24 18:48:05 <HaDAk> kernel update, or no?
Oct 24 18:48:10 <HaDAk> i'm guessing not
Oct 24 18:48:34 <morphis> no
Oct 24 18:48:40 <HaDAk> awesome.
Oct 24 18:49:01 <HaDAk> imma upgrade now
Oct 24 19:15:34 <HaDAk> hum. this is taking too long. it should be done by now.
Oct 24 19:15:37 <HaDAk> i think it failed.
Oct 24 19:20:40 <morphis> HaDAk: it really failed?
Oct 24 19:20:57 <HaDAk> yeah. i'm going to try again.
Oct 24 19:21:13 <HaDAk> no worries. it *may* have been the script.
Oct 24 19:21:18 <HaDAk> i found a little bug i'm sorting out right now anyway
Oct 24 19:21:53 <morphis> ok
Oct 24 19:21:56 <morphis> I am off
Oct 24 19:21:56 <morphis> gn8
Oct 24 19:34:43 <HaDAk> aw, no keyboard
Oct 24 19:34:44 <HaDAk> sad day
Oct 25 00:51:42 <LarrySteeze> morphis: I think I need to move to europe to talk to you.
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