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Oct 31 07:11:46 <morphis> morning
Oct 31 07:47:05 <Tofe> morning
Oct 31 07:52:24 <morphis> Tofe: morning
Oct 31 07:53:23 <morphis> Tofe: https://github.com/webOS-ports/luna-next/pull/50
Oct 31 08:00:24 <Tofe> morphis: is it really an integer as return type, for length ?
Oct 31 08:01:49 <Tofe> morphis: also the lower case naming is not consistent with StatusBarServicesConnector, I would prefer uppercase
Oct 31 08:03:40 <Tofe> morphis: appart from that, it's a very good idea to introduce this singleton, it's much cleaner than what I did in QML
Oct 31 08:05:06 <morphis> Tofe: didn't widht/height properties just accept int?
Oct 31 08:05:14 <morphis> but I am fine with uppercase
Oct 31 08:05:56 <morphis> Tofe: yeah, I need it somewhere else and I found it wrong to just copy the QML code
Oct 31 08:10:27 <Tofe> morphis: no, width and height are real type
Oct 31 08:12:32 <morphis> ok, then let me fix that
Oct 31 08:17:47 <morphis> Tofe: uploaded another version
Oct 31 08:19:56 <morphis> Tofe: btw. did you saw that apps aren't loading after the first boot?
Oct 31 08:20:47 <Tofe> morphis: yes, launcher didn't succeed, for example
Oct 31 08:21:02 <morphis> hm, now it worked
Oct 31 12:24:36 <Herrie> Morphis: On the appicon: I think the problem might be in: qml/WindowManager/WindowWrapper.qml
Oct 31 12:24:50 <Herrie> property string appIcon: Qt.resolvedUrl("../images/default-app-icon.png")
Oct 31 12:26:03 <morphis> Herrie: it should be overriden with the one it gets from the application manager
Oct 31 12:26:18 <morphis> afaik the application manager is failing to return the correct path
Oct 31 12:47:21 <Herrie> That's in lunasysmgr right?
Oct 31 12:47:56 <Herrie> The code in ApplicationDescription.cpp looks a bit odd to me, but then again, I'm no C++ expert... Had a brief course about a decade ago :P
Oct 31 12:52:56 <Herrie> The bits for icon, splashicon and miniicon need some rework I would say
Oct 31 12:53:06 <Herrie> miniicon doesn't have any path in it for example
Oct 31 12:54:58 <morphis> Herrie: yeah the code is not the best
Oct 31 12:55:17 <morphis> thats what you get after six years with fast development periods :)
Oct 31 12:55:50 <Herrie> Yeah LOL
Oct 31 12:55:56 <Herrie> Just it's not very consistent either
Oct 31 12:56:08 <Herrie> For some fields just an if, no else etc ;)
Oct 31 12:56:31 <Herrie> Just doesn't look right to me and I'm no coding expert :P
Oct 31 13:21:15 <HaDAk> would it be hard to overlay plasma active on webos? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_Active#Plasma_Active
Oct 31 13:23:59 <HaDAk> you know? dumb question. nevermind.
Oct 31 13:25:03 <JaMa> morphis: can I bump dora revisions a bit or should I wait for new staging?
Oct 31 13:32:00 <JaMa> morphis: also what's webos-ports-update-package? Can we build it in the same bitbake call as image? It would be a bit faster
Oct 31 14:09:33 <morphis> JaMa: we only have to build webos-ports-package and webos-ports-dev-package as both are building the webos-ports-image/webos-ports-dev-image as dependency anyway
Oct 31 14:09:54 <morphis> JaMa: is there anything important?
Oct 31 14:10:12 <morphis> if not I would like to wait a little bit until we have the release out
Oct 31 14:42:05 <JaMa> morphis: nothing we must have, OK, I'll keep it local for a while
Oct 31 14:42:45 <Tofe> morphis: btw, I still don't understand why we get an eglError: 3009, and I think it might explain maliit get lost
Oct 31 14:48:56 <morphis> JaMa: ok
Oct 31 14:49:08 <morphis> JaMa: can you do me a favour and check why valgrind fails to build?
Oct 31 14:49:29 <morphis> it says something about that it requires glibc < 2.18
Oct 31 14:49:33 <morphis> Tofe: hm
Oct 31 14:50:24 <Tofe> morphis: also, I don't see why calling setFormat on a QWindow in maliit creates such a fuss
Oct 31 14:50:30 <morphis> Tofe: maybe I have some time this evening to debug this on my own
Oct 31 14:51:18 <morphis> Tofe: you found the place where it's still calling setFormat?
Oct 31 14:51:43 <Tofe> no, I've put gdb on QWindow::setFormat, and it didn't break
Oct 31 14:52:02 <Tofe> (in maliit, ofc)
Oct 31 14:54:41 <morphis> hm
Oct 31 14:56:09 <morphis> can you show me the log output again?
Oct 31 14:56:31 <Tofe> not from here, unfortunately, but it should still be on pastebin
Oct 31 14:58:41 <Tofe> ...which I don't have anymore. Oh great.
Oct 31 15:00:20 <morphis> :)
Oct 31 15:02:02 <JaMa> morphis: I'll check but there should be fix for that already in newer-layers repo
Oct 31 15:02:17 <morphis> ok
Oct 31 15:03:13 <JaMa> ah it's only in my local branch for dora.. http://bpaste.net/show/145507/
Oct 31 15:04:32 <morphis> JaMa: will pick it for now locally
Oct 31 15:05:04 <JaMa> please confirm if it works for you, then I'll add it to meta-webos-ports
Oct 31 15:05:19 <morphis> ok
Oct 31 17:30:25 <Tofe> ok, I'm now home
Oct 31 17:30:47 <morphis> Tofe: ok
Oct 31 17:35:15 <Tofe> morphis: interested in a debug wayland output from maguro ?
Oct 31 17:35:24 <morphis> yes
Oct 31 17:36:15 <Tofe> what scenario would you like ? right now, I have a show launcher + click text entry + click outside text entry to hide maliit
Oct 31 17:37:18 <morphis> Tofe: lets take a look at this first
Oct 31 17:37:26 <Tofe> morphis: http://pastebin.com/zmiMWrj5 <-- this is this scenario.
Oct 31 17:45:29 <morphis> Tofe: Oct 30 12:37:58 maguro maliit-server[1132]: [2020807.203] wl_display@1.delete_id(40)
Oct 31 17:45:39 <morphis> that looks like maliit is destroying the display it uses
Oct 31 17:45:49 <morphis> and registers it again afterwards
Oct 31 17:45:50 <Tofe> oh ?
Oct 31 17:46:03 <morphis> ah no
Oct 31 17:46:19 <morphis> delete_id is just a signal when a resource associated with the display was deleted
Oct 31 17:46:53 <Tofe> ah ok. It's quite hard also for me to decrypt wayland's debug output
Oct 31 17:53:07 <morphis> Tofe: see #nemomobile
Oct 31 18:01:14 <morphis> Tofe: sorry, but I am running out of time
Oct 31 18:01:28 <morphis> hope Stskeeps can point us into the right direction
Oct 31 18:02:00 <Tofe> hope so too
Oct 31 19:36:06 <webosdev2> Hi
Oct 31 19:37:42 <webosdev2> No one here?
Oct 31 19:37:51 <Tofe> webosdev2: hi
Oct 31 19:38:01 <Tofe> lots of people in lots of timezones :)
Oct 31 19:38:09 <webosdev2> Ah ok :)
Oct 31 19:38:39 <webosdev2> How i can help this project? What i need to learn for example to porting open webos in a device?
Oct 31 19:38:55 <webosdev2> I think is more hard than Android ROM
Oct 31 19:39:01 <webosdev2> Right?
Oct 31 19:39:17 <Tofe> well, right
Oct 31 19:40:05 <Tofe> but today, we are more focusing on making it work on the supported devices we target (nexus 7 and google nexus)
Oct 31 19:40:56 <webosdev2> Only device where drivers is open source
Oct 31 19:41:01 <Tofe> theoretically, when that works well, porting to another device where ubuntu touch exists should not be that hard
Oct 31 19:41:23 <webosdev2> So i think there isn't any plan to porting on webOS hardware
Oct 31 19:41:27 <webosdev2> like Pre 3
Oct 31 19:41:34 <webosdev2> Because there is no open source driver
Oct 31 19:41:40 <Tofe> not necessarily the drivers, as we are using libhybris a lot to reuse android's bits to access some hardware
Oct 31 19:42:00 <Tofe> no, we aren't planning any support for legacy webOS hardware, indeed
Oct 31 19:42:14 <Tofe> more looking towards the future :)
Oct 31 19:42:18 <webosdev2> and hp touchpad?
Oct 31 19:42:35 <webosdev2> Correct me, but ubuntu touch working on it?
Oct 31 19:42:39 <bigbluehat> …one of the saddest days of the past year for m...
Oct 31 19:42:41 <bigbluehat> *me
Oct 31 19:42:59 * bigbluehat bought a touchpad *because* of Open webOS
Oct 31 19:43:11 * bigbluehat weeps quietly in his sleeve…and goes back to what he was doing
Oct 31 19:43:14 <Tofe> There was one guy, yesterday, that seemed interested in a port to the TP
Oct 31 19:43:26 <Tofe> I mean, interested in doing that port
Oct 31 19:43:39 <webosdev2> for every webos fan i think is the saddest day
Oct 31 19:43:49 <webosdev2> I never understand why HP kill webOS
Oct 31 19:44:01 <webosdev2> They are in right time
Oct 31 19:44:08 <Tofe> webosdev2: that's why we're here :)
Oct 31 19:44:28 <webosdev2> Today we have BB10 and BlackBerry try in everytime to enter in the market
Oct 31 19:44:58 <webosdev2> Understand that :)
Oct 31 19:45:05 <webosdev2> But let's forget the past
Oct 31 19:45:07 <webosdev2> and LG?
Oct 31 19:45:30 <bigbluehat> Tofe: if that person interested in Open webOS on the TP resurfaces, ping me…if you would :)
Oct 31 19:46:50 <Tofe> bigbluehat: sure, it was OrokuSaki
Oct 31 19:47:07 <webosdev2> From what i understand OpenwebOS isn't complete right now
Oct 31 19:47:09 <webosdev2> Correct?
Oct 31 19:47:12 <Tofe> webosdev2: LG, I don't know, we didn't hear much of them
Oct 31 19:47:27 <webosdev2> This is bad..
Oct 31 19:47:29 <bigbluehat> tnx!
Oct 31 19:47:39 <webosdev2> So LG want only webOS in Smart TV..
Oct 31 19:47:56 <bigbluehat> webosdev2: ask that in #openwebos :)
Oct 31 19:48:11 <bigbluehat> maybe
Oct 31 19:48:17 <Tofe> webosdev2: seems so. I'm quite surprised too, when we see that they'll try FirefoxOS  a bit
Oct 31 19:48:34 <webosdev2> If they have offer a opportunity to FirefoxOS
Oct 31 19:48:44 * bigbluehat thinks they’re trying them all :)
Oct 31 19:48:45 <webosdev2> why not to Open webOS?
Oct 31 19:48:52 <webosdev2> With Enyo
Oct 31 19:49:02 <webosdev2> is also easy to porting application
Oct 31 19:49:43 <webosdev2> Please don't said we are forced to use Android in future..
Oct 31 19:49:46 <Tofe> webosdev2: I guess the smart TV teams are not talking much to the mobile phone teams... That could happen, in big companies (who said Nokia ?)
Oct 31 19:50:09 <webosdev2> But isn't good..
Oct 31 19:50:18 <webosdev2> They need to contribute
Oct 31 19:51:41 <Tofe> webosdev2: we're using the android base to access some hardware, too; it's based on the fact that we don't have any dedicated manufacturer right now, we need to prove first that we can make an attractive OS, and android is quite everywhere today. So, in a way, it's quite practical.
Oct 31 19:52:03 <webosdev2> People still want an alternative
Oct 31 19:52:15 <webosdev2> There is Windows Phone but is limited
Oct 31 19:52:24 <webosdev2> and BlackBerry ask to much for their device
Oct 31 19:52:45 <webosdev2> So is still possible to offer an alternative
Oct 31 19:52:59 <Tofe> There is room for improvement, yes.
Oct 31 19:53:11 <webosdev2> In the smartphone market is hard..
Oct 31 19:53:16 <webosdev2> But in the tablet market?
Oct 31 19:53:27 <webosdev2> Android isn't really good in tablet
Oct 31 19:58:02 <webosdev2> Really hope to see a surprise in 2014..
Oct 31 19:58:08 <Tofe> :) me too
Oct 31 19:58:32 <webosdev2> A great system like webOS can't be only in a Smart TV
Oct 31 19:59:36 <webosdev2> http://lgsvl.com/
Oct 31 19:59:47 <webosdev2> "LG sees the web as the platform of the future"
Oct 31 20:00:03 <webosdev2> "webOS. The Nexe Generation, Web-centric Platform"
Oct 31 20:00:16 <webosdev2> If this is all true.. I expect not only SmartTV.
Oct 31 20:05:57 <Tofe> I hope he'll survive the stress
Oct 31 20:07:46 <bigbluehat> :)
Oct 31 21:49:49 <bhuey> folks
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