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Nov 21 08:00:28 <morphis> morning
Nov 21 09:18:16 <Herrie|Work|Veer> morphis: morning :)
Nov 21 09:18:45 <Herrie|Work|Veer> I'm seeing a lot of activity @ OWO GH lately, seems LG is gearing up for a release :P
Nov 21 09:20:35 <Herrie|Work|Veer> If the issue number is an indication of how many bugs have been discovered that's a huge number.... Before I saw commits about issues <10.000 up to 13.000, now I see commits for issues in 40.000 and 50.000 range... That's a lot :P
Nov 21 09:21:09 <Herrie|Work|Veer> No wonder Eric Blade was complaining that 100 bugs got raised at the same time he manages to fix 1 LOL :P
Nov 21 10:19:58 <Tofe> morning
Nov 21 10:21:17 <Tofe> morphis: I didn't push my rebased branch yesterday, as it crashes at startup when maliit wants to get the plugin subview
Nov 21 10:21:34 <Tofe> but the rebase itself was not too complex
Nov 21 10:38:14 <morphis> Tofe: ok, great
Nov 21 10:38:27 <morphis> btw. I think we can work with merges instead of rebase
Nov 21 10:38:34 <morphis> or would you prefer rebasing things?
Nov 21 10:39:28 <morphis> Herrie|Work|Veer: thats normal when you respect the different sources for bugs in software development (like automated testing, crash reports (were one can happen more than once), ...)
Nov 21 10:40:52 <Tofe> morphis: no, I'd prefer merges  actually
Nov 21 10:41:56 <Tofe> that way we keep the actual dates when the changes were done, it might help
Nov 21 10:46:35 <morphis> Tofe: right
Nov 21 10:52:41 <Tofe> morphis: do you think "MImOnScreenPlugins::SubView subView = mAvailableSubViews.first()" would crash if the mAvailableSubViews list is empty ?
Nov 21 10:53:02 <morphis> Tofe: afaik it will return 0
Nov 21 11:06:42 <Herrie|Work|Veer> Morphis: Agree but still lots LOL :P
Nov 21 12:47:05 <morphis> Herrie: btw. you tried to think about the possiblity that not all are bugs but possible tasks, ..?
Nov 21 12:59:51 <Herrie|Work|Veer> morphis: Yes but even then it's a large number LOL. But you as employee are more familiar with inner workings of the organisation I'm sure :P
Nov 21 13:58:03 <morphis> JaMa: can you have a look at our buildserver? the build is hanging the second time now
Nov 21 13:58:14 <morphis> first time I killed the build and bitbake manually afterwards
Nov 21 14:20:32 <Herrie|Work|Veer> morphis: Interesting commits, we have working audio again? :)
Nov 21 14:25:44 <Herrie|Work|Veer> Who manages/can manage the sub domain redirections like http://testing-n7.webos-ports.org?
Nov 21 15:49:42 <JaMa> morphis: y
Nov 21 17:31:43 <scoutcamper> Herrie, i manage the sub domain redirects
Nov 21 17:56:23 <Herrie> OK can you do something based on wildcards?
Nov 21 17:57:30 <JaMa> morphis: you need to call webos-ports_setup_cleanup sometimes, otherwise tmpfs grows and grows
Nov 21 17:57:31 <scoutcamper> maybe? never tried a wildcard
Nov 21 17:58:04 <JaMa> morphis: currently it's stuck in swap with 54G used in tmpfs
Nov 21 17:58:05 <Herrie> So http://testing-*.webos-ports.org should redirect to http://webos-ports.org/wiki/Install_WOP_for_<Devicename>
Nov 21 17:58:30 <Herrie> So http://testing-grouper.webos-ports.org redirects to http://webos-ports.org/wiki/Install_WOP_for_Grouper for example
Nov 21 17:58:54 <Herrie> Now we have 2 devices, but in case we become next CM in the future would be a pain to add all devices manually, so wildcard would be good ;)
Nov 21 18:00:16 <JaMa> morphis: sometimes it can build all 6 machines in one go (depending on how much was reused from sstate-cache), but to be safe it's better to queue "hardware" builds, then cleanup task and then qemu* builds
Nov 21 18:03:53 <JaMa> morphis: ah and important part is to run webos-ports_setup_rsync before _cleanup, unfortunately when it's all in one queue _rsync job is moved always to be the last when any build finishes
Nov 21 18:07:23 <Herrie> Hmmz just read news about LG's new quad and octa core socs ;)
Nov 21 18:07:32 <Herrie> Seems quad core will be in the new TV's ;)
Nov 21 18:07:38 <Herrie> Damn webOS will fly :D
Nov 21 18:07:50 <scoutcamper> lol
Nov 21 18:08:30 <Herrie> Curious about the TV ;) Gimme a nice high end OLED or Plasma ;)
Nov 21 18:08:50 <Herrie> And I'll buy it ;) Just saw a reference to "HuluPlus: sometimes crashing upon loading the application or an episode". Seems some nice apps will be coming along :P
Nov 21 18:09:07 <Herrie> And it needs to be big ;) 65" or so and OK pricewise ;)
Nov 21 18:12:21 <JaMa> I hate to spoil the fun, but this isn't very nice: http://doctorbeet.blogspot.co.uk/2013/11/lg-smart-tvs-logging-usb-filenames-and.html
Nov 21 18:13:32 <scoutcamper> JaMa, we know webos as well as if not better than they do, im sure we can figure out how to shut that off
Nov 21 18:14:30 <JaMa> well I wouldn't connect TV with camera to internet in the first place :)
Nov 21 18:14:51 <Herrie> JaMa: Yes not nice.... Though NL tech website already reported today that LG will release firmware update to address it ;)
Nov 21 18:14:51 <scoutcamper> lol, duct tape over camera solves that
Nov 21 18:14:59 <JaMa> and I trust LG a lot more then Xbox+kinect and MS Live :)
Nov 21 18:15:22 <Herrie> Sending of filenames was supposedly to fetch album art etc but never got implemented anyway
Nov 21 18:16:15 <Herrie> Rest was used for showing what other users where watching and advertising (pretty much similar to cookies on any website I'd say) but yes, I wouldn't be happy if my data gets sent ;')
Nov 21 18:16:16 <Herrie> ;)
Nov 21 18:17:10 <scoutcamper> i have a nice firewall on my network that i have programmed to prevent my xbox + tv from phoning home
Nov 21 18:23:57 <scoutcamper> Herrie, looks like that kind of wildcard redirect isnt going to work
Nov 21 18:31:18 <Herrie> OK will have to do 1:1 then ;) So could you kill this one for n7 and nexus and make it Grouper and Maguro?
Nov 21 19:08:37 <Herrie> scoutcamper: When you got a minute, can you install https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:External_Data ? We can use that to pull the changelog from GitHub in JSON into the Wiki :)
Nov 21 19:12:27 <Tofe> morphis: I think the guy was a bit too pro-active in this cleanup commit: https://github.com/webOS-ports/webos-keyboard/commit/e2adcb7253e5c530f54e4f5ea0a89a6d835e3573
Nov 21 19:16:13 <Herrie> Tofe: Yes that looks VERY drastic ;)
Nov 21 19:19:30 <Tofe> well, in the end, if it's really dead code, why not; but here it doesn't even return a default keyboard subview, and that makes maliit-server crash. It's also maliit-server's fault, of course, but still...
Nov 21 19:56:06 <Herrie> Makes you hunt long for silly stuff like this ;)
Nov 21 22:28:47 <HaDAk> anyone speak german?
Nov 21 22:39:10 <JaMa> morphis: do we need something from webos-shutdownscripts in wp?
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