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Nov 25 06:28:31 <Herrie> morning
Nov 25 06:28:38 <Herrie> morphis: ping :)
Nov 25 09:15:09 <morphis> morning
Nov 25 09:18:22 <Herrie|Work|Veer> morphis: morning! Are you finally taking some rest in the weekends?
Nov 25 09:18:44 <Herrie|Work|Veer> Haven't seen you around here for last couple of weekends :)
Nov 25 09:19:14 <morphis> Herrie|Work|Veer: somehow yes
Nov 25 09:19:24 <morphis> very busy currently with different things
Nov 25 09:19:34 <Herrie|Work|Veer> Good, necessary as well :)
Nov 25 09:20:53 <Herrie|Work|Veer> Any proper holidays planned for proper relaxation?
Nov 25 09:21:11 <Tofe> morning
Nov 25 09:21:27 <morphis> Tofe: morning
Nov 25 09:21:33 <morphis> Herrie|Work|Veer: not before christmas
Nov 25 09:23:29 <Herrie|Work|Veer> I see, first get alpha 3 out of the door?
Nov 25 09:25:11 <morphis> when time is left beside other things, yes :)
Nov 25 09:25:26 <Herrie|Work|Veer> Roshan managed to fix the known Memo bugs, saw you merged it :)
Nov 25 09:25:46 <Herrie|Work|Veer> Roshan seems to have interest in PDF app as well so looking into that as well :)
Nov 25 09:29:03 <Tofe> morphis: I've investigated a bit the "focus issue" -- which isn't a focus issue actually
Nov 25 09:29:17 <morphis> Herrie|Work|Veer: sounds great
Nov 25 09:29:22 <morphis> Tofe: it's not?
Nov 25 09:30:20 <Tofe> well, somehow, after having done surface()->destroy() in the compositor, we get a new surface that is mapped. But this surface is then immediately destroyed, and it confuses LunaNext a lot
Nov 25 09:30:25 <Herrie|Work|Veer> Yup Roshan seems keen on getting things moving :) Developed some webOS apps in Enyo (2) so has experience as well :)
Nov 25 09:31:23 <morphis> Herrie|Work|Veer: is he here on IRC too?
Nov 25 09:31:38 <Tofe> Also, we may have an issue with WAM, which still lets the app redraw itself though its destruction has been destroyed. Maybe it is the same issue as the previous one.
Nov 25 09:31:44 <Herrie|Work|Veer> Not sure, don't think so but mentioned it a couple of times...
Nov 25 09:32:11 <Herrie|Work|Veer> For now via email mainly and sometimes Twitter but seems to work :)
Nov 25 09:33:07 <Tofe> s/destroyed/requested/
Nov 25 09:37:25 <morphis> Tofe: hm
Nov 25 09:55:53 <Tofe> morphis: ah, and I forgot a third point: it looks like we have to force a bit WAM to update itself so that it really starts an application. Maybe qtwayland would be a cause ?
Nov 25 09:56:20 <morphis> possible
Nov 25 09:56:32 <morphis> currently don't have time to look into it
Nov 25 09:56:32 <Tofe> (that point is visible when you have to click on the background to make a launched app appear)
Nov 25 09:57:14 <Tofe> morphis: I guess so, but it's ok, I'm on it :)
Nov 25 09:57:30 <morphis> thanks
Nov 25 10:00:06 <morphis> Tofe: btw. I want to rework the webappmanager soon so that we have one instance per app
Nov 25 10:00:14 <morphis> and it's more a webapp launcher instead of a manager
Nov 25 10:01:55 <Tofe> morphis: great, that will simplify many things, like app lifecycle management -- and focus too
Nov 25 10:07:13 <Tofe> morphis: speaking of which, I would need a little service which just does QApplication()->focusWidget()->clearFocus() for each card app, WAM or not
Nov 25 10:07:25 <Tofe> I don't know where to put it
Nov 25 10:08:35 <morphis> hm
Nov 25 10:08:53 <morphis> Tofe: on compositor side?
Nov 25 10:09:13 <Tofe> it would be called from compositor side, when an app is carded
Nov 25 10:09:40 <Tofe> I guess I could call an LS2 service
Nov 25 10:10:44 <Tofe> It doesn't need to be app-specific, in that case; all the apps need to be un-focused anyway
Nov 25 10:11:26 <morphis> so the app itself needs to call this?
Nov 25 10:11:37 <Tofe> no, it would subscribe to it
Nov 25 10:11:52 <morphis> hm, can you check wether the nemo guys did something similar already
Nov 25 10:12:05 <Tofe> I can check
Nov 25 10:12:10 <morphis> afaik such things should be managed inside qtwayland somehow
Nov 25 10:13:17 <Tofe> ah... yes right, there must be something in the qtwayland input connector, maybe.
Nov 25 10:14:40 <Tofe> Maybe Qt just doesn't unfocus the current widget by default, to keep the cursor blinking
Nov 25 10:15:06 <Tofe> I'll have a look. It's quite promising.
Nov 25 10:23:23 <morphis> ok
Nov 25 10:50:19 <Tofe> morphis: oh and I think we should activate this variable for the clients: QT_WAYLAND_DISABLE_WINDOWDECORATION=1
Nov 25 10:51:20 <morphis> Tofe: we do already
Nov 25 10:51:39 <morphis> https://github.com/webOS-ports/luna-sysmgr/commit/291adcb543f48bd7f5af740ae6e28b4f680c3cb2
Nov 25 11:39:41 <Herrie|Work|Veer> morphis/Tofe: W.r.t. Synergy: Are all bits still in place? Lets say I would create a LinkedIn connector, could we still use this? Or are bits missing?
Nov 25 11:40:48 <Tofe> morphis: ok, good
Nov 25 12:00:11 <morphis> Herrie: no, thats still possible and you can sync your contacts and show/edit/delete them in the contacts app
Nov 25 13:24:57 <cobblemonster> when some one gets time I got a pull request to up date the webOS-ports-template to current Enyo and a small fix
Nov 25 14:00:17 <Tofe> morphis: they've got interesting commit, at mer-packages/qtwayland. Maybe some of them would be useful to us, if it's not yet in upstream.
Nov 25 14:19:13 <morphis> Tofe: which ones?
Nov 25 15:23:33 <Tofe> morphis: things like https://github.com/mer-packages/qtwayland/commit/f559aab1e003185c084e6c1b44be8c3c4e44a341 or https://github.com/mer-packages/qtwayland/commit/0c77bdd32877590fa427b79f229e6a14b6852407 , that sort of stuff
Nov 25 15:23:53 <Tofe> but maybe it's upstream, or not relevant, I didn't check yet
Nov 25 16:13:28 <Herrie|Work|Veer> ka6sox/morphis/Tofe: Any of you interested in an interview with PivotCE guys on the Ports project?
Nov 25 17:10:59 <Whitebee__> morphis: hi
Nov 25 17:20:24 <Whitebee__> I always arrive when he's not here =P
Nov 25 17:20:37 <Whitebee__> anyone knows if I can spoof wifi data in the emulator to test the wifi app?
Nov 25 18:27:17 <stefan1234> Garfonso: Finally pull request reviewed and merged.
Nov 25 18:27:38 <stefan1234> Garfonso: Will do some tests on my Pre3 Wednesday
Nov 25 21:54:02 <Tofe> Herrie: Oh, but I wouldn't know what to say :)
Nov 25 21:56:54 <Tofe> time for bed now... gn8 all
Nov 25 23:01:13 <LarrySteeze> Anyone around?
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