**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Jan 02 02:59:59 2014 Jan 02 09:06:06 morning Jan 02 09:07:00 morphis: Now that everyone (or nearly everyone) is sover and clear again, we can get back to wop :) Jan 02 09:07:07 sober* Jan 02 10:02:03 hey anyone here Jan 02 10:02:07 i guess not. LOL. Jan 02 10:55:29 morning Jan 02 10:55:52 You guys seen the leaked webOS on LG TV image from EVLeaks? Jan 02 11:31:58 morning and happy new year everybody! Jan 02 11:44:43 morning Jan 02 11:46:33 morphis: can you try to merge this change into our qtwebkit? https://github.com/meta-qt5/meta-qt5/blob/master/recipes-qt/qt5/qtwebkit/fix-rpath.patch Jan 02 11:47:22 morning Jan 02 11:48:05 JaMa: for sure Jan 02 11:48:10 Herrie: yes, but it's hard to see what they kept for the UI Jan 02 11:48:28 Garfonso: I saw the update service failing recently with a lot error messages Jan 02 11:48:40 is that related to the thing you found in the foundation library? Jan 02 11:48:48 I think so. Jan 02 11:51:22 you know how to fix it? Jan 02 11:56:57 Not a real fix... I can disable the stuff that runs into an error situation, because it tests the activity. But on a real error, this will again happen. Jan 02 12:01:36 hm Jan 02 12:01:47 which line is it in the service which causes the error? Jan 02 12:03:32 this one: https://github.com/webOS-ports/org.webosports.update/blob/master/service/javascript/assistants/checkUpdateAssistant.js#L13 Jan 02 12:03:45 if you comment it out, it should run without errors Jan 02 12:06:29 so the line which causes the error is inside https://github.com/webOS-ports/org.webosports.update/blob/master/service/javascript/utils/activities.js#L90 Jan 02 12:13:03 basically the code causes an error in activityManager which is returned to the service and PalmCall throws an error "Unknown PalmCall failure". This is "normal behaviour" and kind of excepted in webOS. ;) Jan 02 12:13:15 the issue now is that this error in PalmCall causes this huge error log. Jan 02 12:13:29 basically any error in PalmCall causes this Jan 02 12:18:38 and PalmCall is part of the nodejs module? Jan 02 12:27:40 PalmCall is part of the foundations library. These lines create the error: https://github.com/openwebos/foundation-frameworks/blob/master/foundations/javascript/comms/palmcall.js#L102 Jan 02 12:28:21 But I don't really get what happens, because this is inside a future and should be caught here: https://github.com/openwebos/foundation-frameworks/blob/master/foundations/javascript/control/future.js#L256 Jan 02 12:28:59 ok, the adopt method itself works: http://bpaste.net/show/rwrXz9BOSOR8bKuGXKWL/ Jan 02 12:29:25 hm Jan 02 12:30:37 Garfonso: can you try the same with just using the nodejs module directly? https://github.com/openwebos/nodejs-module-webos-sysbus Jan 02 12:33:56 I think I could. But I'm pretty sure the communication over the bus is not the issue.. it works fine when I comment out the throw. Jan 02 13:00:18 ok Jan 02 13:02:36 actually, on the image from 19th december it is not even my code that causes the error... IIRC that was different before. But I could be wrong.. it is somewhere in the mojoservice framework stuff: Jan 02 13:03:49 http://pastebin.com/ERaZTYy4 Jan 02 13:04:51 the part "Exception in PalmCall: {"returnValue":false,"errorCode":-1,"errorText":"Not permitted to send to com.palm.activitymanager."}" is from my modification in node_module.js. Jan 02 13:05:15 But the modification breaks the future-exception handling Jan 02 13:07:34 but I did some progress in investigating the issue... it probably is somewhere in https://github.com/openwebos/foundation-frameworks/blob/master/foundations/javascript/structure/err.js .... when I kill the toString method everything is fine... Jan 02 13:07:35 ;) Jan 02 13:08:08 probably something in there throws an exception and which causes this strange endless loop of exceptions. Jan 02 13:08:18 quite funny. ;) Jan 02 13:14:34 hm, we can change the toString method for our purpose Jan 02 13:28:27 somehow this happens, on this line: https://github.com/openwebos/foundation-frameworks/blob/master/foundations/javascript/structure/err.js#L39 Jan 02 13:29:11 but I don't really get why... Jan 02 13:29:52 If I get rid of the whole err.stack stuff, everything works as expected... even a stack-trace is printed. Jan 02 13:30:29 did LG-openwebos also update to a current version of node.js? Jan 02 13:30:38 hey guys Jan 02 13:30:40 i need help Jan 02 13:30:46 i have a log and BB10 doesn't work Jan 02 13:30:56 Neo works great on webos, STILL TO THIS DAY. Jan 02 13:31:07 HOW can it not work on all other platforms? Jan 02 13:33:18 Garfonso: afaik yes Jan 02 13:33:31 fxSpeC-06: neo? Jan 02 13:33:36 yeah hold up Jan 02 13:34:00 http://i.imgur.com/TqNsGjN.png Jan 02 13:39:38 +morphis: dm? Jan 02 13:39:42 brb Jan 02 13:41:19 fxSPECo68: you should really ask the developer of the neo app Jan 02 13:46:05 Garfonso: can you give me a patch for the foundation-framework with the change you did to get it working? Jan 02 13:50:23 not good at creating patches, but I'll try. ;) Jan 02 13:50:57 a patch for the node_module.js file or the source files? Jan 02 13:51:00 morphis: just to be sure, is the build alright these days ? I quite didn't follow what you did with JaMa Jan 02 13:51:07 Garfonso: for both Jan 02 13:51:19 Tofe: it should Jan 02 13:51:23 we just did some cleanups Jan 02 13:51:29 ok good, I'll update it tonight Jan 02 13:52:59 I am currently working on the wifi part of the settings application Jan 02 13:53:06 to get it stable and working for the basic purpose Jan 02 13:56:36 morphis: that's jake morrison and I Jan 02 13:56:45 and funkatron and spaz Jan 02 13:56:54 idk how to contact those guys. there's like 12 of them Jan 02 13:57:10 if i upload it to github, it's over Jan 02 13:57:22 ya comprende? Jan 02 13:57:47 jake went to college. i still have free time i've made Jan 02 13:58:06 but not enough to debug everything. i just want to release it on the other platforms Jan 02 13:58:29 like android and ios. but i'm not a good ios dev and android runs like crap so webos once again is my only shot =( Jan 02 13:58:46 and it got bought out by LG after the HP fail. predicament. Jan 02 13:59:54 my pre3 died and i sold it for parts. =( touchpad runs best Jan 02 14:00:07 sadly. ios runs better but i'm afraid of the request + no mac that works properly Jan 02 14:00:23 so where should i turn from here? Enda? Jan 02 14:00:41 fxSPECo68-> You should be able to use Cordova/PhoneGap together with Enyo 2 to get it working. there's some info on blog.enyojs.com Jan 02 14:01:08 wow Jan 02 14:01:13 #enyojs might be of help too Jan 02 14:01:14 great idea. $5 here i come Jan 02 14:01:16 k Jan 02 14:01:32 Let me find that URL for you ;) Jan 02 14:01:43 https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bc9wnrZIIAAblDn.jpg Jan 02 14:01:49 http://i.imgur.com/TqNsGjN.png Jan 02 14:01:53 both SFW Jan 02 14:03:19 https://github.com/enyojs/enyo/wiki/Platform-Specific-Deployment Jan 02 14:03:31 Should give you some pointers ;) Jan 02 14:03:40 morphis: that's jake morrison and I Jan 02 14:03:40 and funkatron and spaz Jan 02 14:03:40 idk how to contact those guys. there's like 12 of them Jan 02 14:03:40 if i upload it to github, it's over Jan 02 14:03:40 ya comprende? Jan 02 14:03:40 jake went to college. i still have free time i've made Jan 02 14:03:41 but not enough to debug everything. i just want to release it on the other platforms Jan 02 14:03:41 like android and ios. but i'm not a good ios dev and android runs like crap so webos once again is my only shot =( Jan 02 14:03:42 and it got bought out by LG after the HP fail. predicament. Jan 02 14:03:42 * Herrie|Work|Veer (~wircer@31.137.74.151) has joined #webos-ports Jan 02 14:03:43 my pre3 died and i sold it for parts. =( touchpad runs best Jan 02 14:03:43 sadly. ios runs better but i'm afraid of the request + no mac that works properly Jan 02 14:03:44 so where should i turn from here? Enda? Jan 02 14:04:06 bookmarked. Jan 02 14:04:12 Haven't used any myself but should help you I think... Try it with a Hello World first before whole app ;) Jan 02 14:05:14 it works dude Jan 02 14:05:15 thanks. Jan 02 14:05:23 gotta fly brb Jan 02 14:05:38 k better Jan 02 14:06:20 I tried Neo but still like Macaw more sorry ;) Neo too buggy for me and too skinned but that's personal ;) Jan 02 14:07:53 yeah but if i had a TEAM to work on it we could make ZILLIONS Jan 02 14:08:59 Same boat everywhere... We need some good app devs here too for Open webOS apps... hopefully we can "borrow" some from LG's new webOS powered TV's ;) Jan 02 14:09:32 But we still need other basic apps developed too, but too little people running the project :'( Jan 02 14:10:48 Garfonso: thanks Jan 02 14:11:36 hm... even without the strange error loop, the update service won't work. Jan 02 14:11:49 that should also be true for every other node.js services Jan 02 14:12:50 lol Jan 02 14:12:56 BORROW ME HEY I'M RIGHT HERE Jan 02 14:13:21 Herrie: i know basic. trained in grammar school. inherited and learned extensively on calculators. Jan 02 14:13:39 defeat is not an option! go Jan 02 14:13:52 and i have my calculators to prove it Jan 02 14:14:23 Garfonso: why didn't you try debuggin gthe lop dee lopp loop? Jan 02 14:15:36 http://webos-ports.org/wiki/Help_Wanted Jan 02 14:16:21 errrm sorry should be http://webos-ports.org/wiki/Contributors Jan 02 14:16:55 Moved some stuff LOL... I'm sure morphis can say what we need help with most ;) Jan 02 14:17:11 A phone app would be good I'd say ;) And a messaging app? Jan 02 14:17:50 Herrie|Work|Veer: yes both would be good Jan 02 14:18:04 even if they are just pure UI work for the moment Jan 02 14:18:42 sorry guys i have too many bookmarks to keep bookmarking bogus stuff. data. stufffff Jan 02 14:20:31 morphis: there still is an issue with update service, or better mojoserviceframework. Unless I add the dbus and ls2 roles for the update service to the public folder I get this error: "Not permitted to send to com.palm.activitymanager." and the assistant won't start up. Jan 02 14:21:02 hm Jan 02 14:22:05 Garfonso: who is calling who in this case? Jan 02 14:22:08 the app the service? Jan 02 14:22:51 me. lol. the app and it's services......... Jan 02 14:22:59 no, I'm calling the service via luna-send (which should be on private bus) on the command line. The service (or better the framework) then tries to call activitymanager. Jan 02 14:23:01 sorry for not helping Jan 02 14:23:42 so the service calls the activitymanager and thats where it fails, right? Jan 02 14:23:56 yes Jan 02 14:24:21 the services calls the activitymanager on the public bus? Jan 02 14:25:28 on the public bus. Jan 02 14:25:46 in the room of the safehouse. need a home Jan 02 14:26:25 Garfonso: then lets add the public role file Jan 02 14:26:50 ok. :) Jan 02 14:27:31 Garfonso: when you pushed it ping me so I can bump the SRCREV in meta-webos-ports Jan 02 14:29:14 Garfonso: /usr/palm/frameworks/./foundations/version/1.0/node_module.js is the right one? Jan 02 14:29:48 yes, that's the one Jan 02 14:32:50 lol.. another issue with update service, reports update also if remote version is lower. ;) Jan 02 14:32:58 :) Jan 02 14:33:09 Garfonso: ok, with your patch, the public ls2 role file it works Jan 02 14:33:28 just getting "Could not parse version from file: Rockhopper release 1.0-unofficial (webos-ports)\n" because I have a local build Jan 02 14:34:01 and you saw: Jan 02 06:33:39 grouper ls-hubd[454]: Error: palm://com.palm.activitymanager/getDetails {"activityName":"org.webosports.service.update: Periodic Update Check"}: 'current flag' must be specified Jan 02 14:45:20 Garfonso: one further thing: http://bpaste.net/show/Ss9nfS8bG36P3nwonim9/ Jan 02 14:45:51 checkUpdate returns with returnValue = true and success = false but the update panel only checks for returnValue = false and success = false to display errors Jan 02 14:46:33 afaik the update panel should be changed to only check for success = false Jan 02 14:46:40 yes Jan 02 14:47:04 returnValue = true is set by something in the framework... that is why I introduced success. Jan 02 14:48:23 ok Jan 02 14:48:28 will change that Jan 02 14:53:14 morphis: https://github.com/webOS-ports/org.webosports.update/pull/8 Jan 02 15:12:27 05:43, 14 August 2013 Herrie (Talk | contribs) deleted page Help Wanted (content was: "= Overview = There are several areas within the project where help is welcome and required. Below we listed some parts. If you want to help with some of the points listed below just come or IRC #webos-ports and ping ka6sox or morphis. ...") Jan 02 15:22:01 so http://webos-ports.org/wiki/Contributors Jan 02 15:22:09 i can contribute. my job will be can be solo twitter Jan 02 15:22:19 just let me help k. Jan 02 15:22:31 i'll debug neo you guys fix my text boxess Jan 02 15:22:37 gtg Jan 02 15:48:45 this is consistent with what i've seen and played with. http://thenextweb.com/insider/2014/01/02/leaked-image-teases-lgs-first-webos-powered-tv/#!q80TJ Jan 02 16:06:10 Is LG active in the community? Jan 02 16:07:00 or did they just internalize the project and are working on it without any collaboration? Jan 02 16:07:56 I can't say for sure, but I *think* they're focusing on getting the product out the door before contributing back. I've *heard* that they intend to contribute though. Jan 02 16:08:06 I could be completely off base, but I seem to recall hearing that at one point. Jan 02 16:08:13 So, don't take my word on it. Jan 02 16:09:07 That is fine, I was just wondering if anyone had "reached out" to the OSS community Jan 02 16:12:26 HaDAk: you played with it? Is it usable? Jan 02 16:13:04 Garfonso: i played with it a year ago. it was snappy but still in relatively early stages of development. they were just starting to rewrite the ui when i got my hands on it. Jan 02 16:13:21 and by "played with it", i mean "watched somebody else play with it" Jan 02 16:56:19 ka6sox: ping Jan 02 17:07:17 <_fxSpeC-06_> so i'm gonna let @funkatron handle this. Jan 02 17:07:22 <_fxSpeC-06_> just don't clean up my code lol Jan 02 17:07:34 <_fxSpeC-06_> repo started Jan 02 17:09:06 <_fxSpeC-06_> chose MIT licence Jan 02 17:09:18 <_fxSpeC-06_> chose https://github.com/fxspec06/Neo-MultiPlatform---From--funkatron-s-Spaz-HD-Remix Jan 02 17:09:31 <_fxSpeC-06_> packaging... Jan 02 17:11:10 <_fxSpeC-06_> this is a ton of compression. anyone who wants it can download the final .zip. Jan 02 17:11:16 <_fxSpeC-06_> i don't want to deal with it. Jan 02 17:11:27 <_fxSpeC-06_> yet, anyways... Jan 02 17:11:46 * _fxSpeC-06_ i believe this is what they call, PROGRESS Jan 02 17:14:06 FINALLY Jan 02 17:14:09 hello hackers Jan 02 17:19:21 packaging complete. total Neo size: 1.x GB. Jan 02 17:20:22 wow. how can i be here and not here Jan 02 17:20:36 hello Jan 02 17:48:20 k so one more time Jan 02 17:48:25 hello Jan 02 17:48:35 woo Jan 02 17:54:54 someone join #Neo_webOS Jan 02 17:55:19 why? [Imgur](http://i.imgur.com/GTTuNUr.png) Jan 02 17:55:40 * fxspec06_away what i'm doing right now is uploading Neo. I've parted this channel for webos ports. let's get crackin somebody Jan 02 17:56:05 [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/GTTuNUr.png[/IMG] Jan 02 17:56:15 * fxspec06_away SFW Jan 02 17:58:49 gee whiz. it's deserted in here. couldn't guess why... Jan 02 17:59:16 so now i begin Jan 02 17:59:53 error: error setting certificate verify locations Jan 02 18:00:36 fatal HTTP request failed.. damnit Jan 02 18:01:49 so i'm gonna have a ton of free time on my hands. Jan 02 18:01:53 a ton. absolute ton. Jan 02 18:04:10 https://github.com/fxspec06/Neo-MultiPlatform---From--funkatron-s-Spaz-HD-Remix Jan 02 18:17:30 https://github.com/fxspec06/Neo-MultiPlatform---From--funkatron-s-Spaz-HD-Remix/blob/master/LICENSE Jan 02 19:18:11 adding... github Jan 02 19:18:21 * fx_b shh Jan 02 19:18:26 $.bash Jan 02 19:19:37 hola Jan 02 19:26:52 fxspec06: you are nuts. Jan 02 19:27:03 i like your brand of crazy though Jan 02 19:27:25 also, some of us work for a living and can't do more than idle Jan 02 19:28:33 good hints Jan 02 19:28:39 i'm using powershell now. Jan 02 19:28:45 updating data and such Jan 02 19:29:07 * fxspec06_away shh this could take a while Jan 02 19:29:15 i'm gonna need to go to the store in a bit anyways. Jan 02 19:29:25 massive 3 foot snow storm Jan 02 19:29:51 just remember http://i.imgur.com/TqNsGjN.png is all for you guys to play with Jan 02 19:29:58 and "i couldn't code" Jan 02 19:30:06 ;) ;) ;) Jan 02 19:31:40 HaDAk: check webos-ports Jan 02 19:31:48 s/ports/offtopic Jan 02 19:37:25 Grrr HP had so much nice stuff in the works :'( Jan 02 19:37:36 Truly don't understand why they killed things :( Jan 02 19:38:44 Hey all Jan 02 19:42:56 hey Darakian Jan 02 19:43:11 i suppose i'm soon to be a member of this club called webos-ports i hear. Jan 02 19:43:12 Hey :) Jan 02 19:43:19 problem is my touchpad is only 32gb and i need 64 Jan 02 19:43:23 support maybe? Jan 02 19:43:28 * fx_b flies Jan 02 19:43:33 too mcuh snow here Jan 02 19:43:33 get a gen 1 nexus 7? :p Jan 02 19:43:35 got to run Jan 02 19:43:41 sponsor5 me! Jan 02 19:43:52 bbwl Jan 02 19:43:53 haha, I'm gonna sponsor myself first Jan 02 19:44:00 wow that was easy Jan 02 19:44:54 * fxspec06_away reboot time Jan 02 19:44:56 brb Jan 02 19:47:11 * fxspec06_away join Neo_webOS Jan 02 19:47:12 join Neo_webOS Jan 02 19:53:49 okay now. Jan 02 19:53:58 the password for Neo_webOS Jan 02 19:54:09 is in my DM inbox. Jan 02 19:54:14 anyone who wants it goes to offtopic Jan 02 19:58:20 neo webos? Jan 02 19:58:25 is that the new lg thing? Jan 02 20:05:26 Darakian: No it's Neo Twitter client for webOS :P Jan 02 20:10:27 ohhhhhhh Jan 02 20:10:30 :p Jan 02 20:10:42 I just saw the render for the lg tv Jan 02 20:10:53 thought that might have the name neo webos or something Jan 02 22:38:20 http://i.imgur.com/cu7dCVn.png Jan 02 23:22:42 pushed. uploadign ports topic=WEBOS porthole=#Neo_webOS dungeon = /me Jan 02 23:25:30 [Imgur](http://i.imgur.com/HCbs4EA.png) Jan 02 23:25:34 SFW. Jan 02 23:27:50 friendly link: (SFW): http://imgur.com/HCbs4EA Jan 02 23:28:14 where pass=WEBOS and while= /me and /msg=+1@scoutcamper WEBOS Jan 02 23:28:59 how's the weather? Jan 02 23:29:18 it's 6.29 here and about PM 4" of snow. 25-29 expected. Jan 02 23:29:22 * fx_b damn Jan 02 23:29:37 ping Jan 02 23:48:24 can i join? when is this possible... Jan 02 23:49:27 group @ChanServ +fxspec06 Jan 02 23:49:35 how do you use this? Jan 02 23:49:44 * fxspec06_away needs irc lessons..? Jan 02 23:49:55 i used to use IRC bakc when i was a kid. downloads and such. Jan 02 23:50:03 * fxspec06_away goes missing Jan 03 00:04:04 with all this news about shiny new LG televisions running some kind of webOS I'm suddenly not so sad anymore that I have some image burned into my Plasma TV... only my bank account will be empty, then. :-( Jan 03 00:33:03 okay i have android on my touchpa Jan 03 00:33:08 i'm deleting the hell out of it. Jan 03 00:33:11 i need HELP Jan 03 00:33:15 brb playing pool Jan 03 00:33:24 uploading still... Jan 03 00:33:42 gotta play a few rounds for T=sa the Jan 03 00:33:47 thing that keeps holding me back. Jan 03 01:28:53 http://imgur.com/DyFGLbz Jan 03 01:40:14 finishing the reupload process. had to copy files to hard drive. not enough space for binary Jan 03 01:40:27 i need nas. damnit. Jan 03 01:40:39 i lost like 4 storage drives this week. seriously. Jan 03 01:40:43 how is that possible? Jan 03 01:40:49 1tb. 1tb. 1.5tb. Jan 03 01:40:53 RECOVERY MODE? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Jan 03 02:59:58 2014