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Jan 11 03:07:13 <LarrySteeze> DougReeder: what do you mean?
Jan 11 03:07:33 <LarrySteeze> not all internal communication is done in this room if thats what you mean
Jan 11 03:07:59 <LarrySteeze> also: I'm bouncing between a ton of things so if you talk to me, say my name so it gives me a notification
Jan 11 03:25:33 <DougReeder> larrysteeze , is there a mailing list for webos-ports?
Jan 11 03:56:53 <HaDAk> Herrie: done! http://youtu.be/20aM6vDyboU
Jan 11 07:45:57 <Herrie> HaDAk: Looks slick!
Jan 11 09:03:22 <Herrie> ka6sox: ping
Jan 11 13:40:19 <Whitebee> morphis, Tofe: any idea why emulator is not booting?
Jan 11 13:41:07 <Whitebee> says "Booting the kernel ." and idles
Jan 11 13:42:13 <Whitebee> morphis: https://github.com/webOS-ports/org.webosports.app.contacts/pull/1
Jan 11 14:00:07 <morphis> morning
Jan 11 14:02:02 <morphis> DougReeder: will do that later today
Jan 11 14:03:23 <morphis> Whitebee: was there a reason why you added cordova?
Jan 11 14:07:48 <Whitebee> morphis: part of integration guide
Jan 11 14:08:02 <morphis> which integration guide?
Jan 11 14:08:17 <Whitebee> one that enyo has
Jan 11 14:08:23 <Whitebee> enyo/open webos
Jan 11 14:09:03 <morphis> ah
Jan 11 14:09:12 <morphis> we try to avoid using cordova currently in wop
Jan 11 14:09:20 <morphis> so currently has no value for us
Jan 11 14:09:23 <Whitebee> oh, ok
Jan 11 14:09:38 <morphis> for service requests for example you can use webos-lib
Jan 11 14:09:56 <morphis> https://github.com/webOS-ports/webos-lib
Jan 11 14:09:58 <Whitebee> was wondering about it and then I saw it's in settings app P=
Jan 11 14:10:12 <Whitebee> https://github.com/webOS-ports/org.webosports.app.settings/blob/master/index.html
Jan 11 14:10:26 <morphis> I will drop it there soon
Jan 11 14:10:45 <morphis> btw. how does your plan for the contacts app look like?
Jan 11 14:11:14 <Whitebee> well, I just want to hook it up to the backend and make it fully functional
Jan 11 14:11:23 <Whitebee> but 1. my emulator is not booting
Jan 11 14:11:31 <Whitebee> 2. I have some questions P=
Jan 11 14:12:19 <Whitebee> (looking for something)
Jan 11 14:12:29 <morphis> for 1. which version?
Jan 11 14:13:30 <Whitebee> Jan 6th
Jan 11 14:14:09 <morphis> from http://build.webos-ports.org/webos-ports-staging/latest/images/qemux86/?
Jan 11 14:14:12 <Whitebee> about 2, found the logs from yesterday - Garfonso pointed me to how stuff works in legacy, and I wanted to know what of it is in Ports
Jan 11 14:14:22 <Whitebee> yep
Jan 11 14:16:45 <morphis> which parts?
Jan 11 14:17:09 <Garfonso> Whitebee: if you do the PalmSystem stuff like this: https://github.com/webOS-ports/preware/blob/master/index.html you won't need cordova
Jan 11 14:17:44 <Garfonso> morphis: the loadable frameworks: https://github.com/openwebos/loadable-frameworks
Jan 11 14:17:58 <Whitebee> morphis: https://github.com/openwebos/loadable-frameworks/
Jan 11 14:18:00 <Whitebee> beat me to it P=
Jan 11 14:18:11 <morphis> should be all part of wop
Jan 11 14:18:44 <Whitebee> and the databases that actually store the contacts are there?
Jan 11 14:18:58 <morphis> yes
Jan 11 14:19:16 <morphis> but I am not sure which component currently installs the db8 kinds for the contacts
Jan 11 14:19:48 <morphis> Whitebee: it may be that we have to cleanup several things as we reworked a lot in the past so there may be things still broken
Jan 11 14:20:08 <Whitebee> morphis: I can hold off with the backend and do another UI
Jan 11 14:20:14 <morphis> no
Jan 11 14:20:22 <Whitebee> ok
Jan 11 14:20:33 <morphis> contacts is important
Jan 11 14:20:43 <morphis> ok, the db8 kinds are part of the service which is there
Jan 11 14:20:48 <morphis> so you should just go ahead
Jan 11 14:21:00 <Garfonso> is the contact linker also there?
Jan 11 14:21:15 <Whitebee> Garfonso: can you explain about PalmSystem?
Jan 11 14:22:03 <morphis> Garfonso: I think so
Jan 11 14:22:11 <Garfonso> you just have to copy those three lines, starting with if (window.PalmSystem). Or maybe we don't need them at all in wop?
Jan 11 14:24:21 <Garfonso> Whitebee: if you don't do that and do not have cordova (or enyo 1.0 / mojo) the card will stay white. At least in legacy it was like that. I'm not 100% sure about wop right now.
Jan 11 14:24:37 <Garfonso> can't try, because no emulator. :( Are there new emulator images being build?
Jan 11 14:24:48 <Garfonso> s/new/no/
Jan 11 14:25:01 <Whitebee> Garfonso: will check on the emulator when there's a new one
Jan 11 14:25:03 <morphis> Garfonso: when you don't call PalmSystem.stageReady() the card will be marked ready automatically after three seconds
Jan 11 14:25:29 <Garfonso> ah, ok. :)
Jan 11 14:26:05 <Whitebee> morphis, Garfonso: so I use the loadable frameworks to access and manipulate rows directly from those databases?
Jan 11 14:26:37 <Garfonso> I would try to do it that way.
Jan 11 14:28:10 <morphis> Whitebee: maybe you can start with some example code from the old contacts app?
Jan 11 14:28:33 <Whitebee> morphis: that's for sure. directory structure is the same?
Jan 11 14:28:47 <morphis> for the new app?
Jan 11 14:29:07 <Whitebee> for getting access to those libraries
Jan 11 14:29:22 <Whitebee> will the code looking for them in the legacy app find them?
Jan 11 14:31:15 <morphis> yes
Jan 11 14:31:24 <morphis> maybe there is something also in enyo-1.0
Jan 11 14:32:05 <Whitebee> morphis: I will start looking through the old code that does the backend
Jan 11 14:36:42 <Whitebee> Garfonso, morphis, thanks for helping!
Jan 11 14:37:07 <morphis> Whitebee: np
Jan 11 14:37:13 <morphis> just ask when you have any questions
Jan 11 14:39:37 <morphis> Whitebee: I will look for the emulator and why it doesn't work
Jan 11 15:05:55 <Whitebee> cool, let us know
Jan 11 15:31:24 <Herrie> I guess you could copy & paste quite some bits from legacy or we'll run into copyright issues?
Jan 11 15:40:16 <morphis> Herrie: which bits?
Jan 11 15:40:45 <morphis> Tofe: ping
Jan 11 15:41:42 <Tofe> morphis: pong
Jan 11 15:42:08 <morphis> Tofe: you already found the bad change for the gnexus kernel?
Jan 11 15:43:01 <Tofe> not yet, I didn't have much time yet to digg it
Jan 11 15:45:20 <morphis> ok
Jan 11 15:46:04 <morphis> Tofe: btw. I need some functionality within the cardshell if you have some more time :)
Jan 11 15:46:52 <Tofe> hehe
Jan 11 15:47:00 <Tofe> what kind ?
Jan 11 15:48:32 <morphis> one thing I need is a ls2 service method to focus a specific app
Jan 11 15:48:56 <morphis> so something like org.webosports.luna/focusApplication '{"appId":"org.webosports.app.settings"}'
Jan 11 15:49:16 <morphis> and another one which returns the current focused application
Jan 11 15:49:39 <morphis> like org.webosports.luna/getFocusedApplication '{"subscribe":true}'
Jan 11 15:50:26 <Tofe> if we are in card view, do you consider that the card in the center is "focused" ?
Jan 11 15:51:23 <morphis> thats something I am not yet sure about
Jan 11 15:51:46 <morphis> mainly I think we should take it like the currently maxizmized card is the focused one
Jan 11 15:52:05 <morphis> because focus always mean I can interact with the content
Jan 11 15:52:37 <Herrie> morphis: I'm sure there must be something reusable in legacy contacts app for back end stuff?
Jan 11 15:52:44 <Tofe> morphis: I agree.
Jan 11 15:53:02 <morphis> Herrie: you mean for the focus stuff?
Jan 11 16:17:42 <Tofe> morphis: kernel of Oct 29th seems to be ok
Jan 11 16:20:09 <morphis> ok
Jan 11 16:28:50 <Herrie> No for contacts app :P
Jan 11 16:33:18 <morphis> Herrie: for sure
Jan 11 16:34:53 <morphis> Herrie: I think there is a lot code which can be just reused
Jan 11 16:51:00 <Tofe> morphis: with commit https://github.com/webOS-ports/meta-smartphone/commit/ad7ea53237849ee0067c6998d098f318f9b498e6 , the boot just hanged right now
Jan 11 16:51:09 <Tofe> (on second try)
Jan 11 16:51:52 <Tofe> previous commit was the one I told you seemed successful
Jan 11 16:54:04 <morphis> Tofe: looks like a rebase is the bad thing
Jan 11 16:54:49 <morphis> our kernel is currently based on the cm one
Jan 11 16:55:07 <morphis> and they merge recent changes to upstream linux 3.0 from time to time
Jan 11 16:55:13 <morphis> looks like there is a bad one in this
Jan 11 16:55:21 <Tofe> ok
Jan 11 16:55:22 <Herrie> morhpis: You were pinging me earlier this week, what was that about?
Jan 11 16:55:25 <morphis> maybe worth a try for us to use pure AOSP again?
Jan 11 16:55:29 <Herrie> Some graphics stuff needs done?
Jan 11 16:55:34 <morphis> Herrie: oh, let me try to remember
Jan 11 16:56:13 <Herrie> Do we know where ka6sox is? He's been MIA for about 2 weeks or so already :P
Jan 11 16:57:05 <morphis> maybe busy at work or other things
Jan 11 16:57:22 <morphis> you need sth from him=
Jan 11 16:59:25 <Tofe> morphis: is there a trace of that previous commit in the kernel history ? I don't find the commit b4c2762e612460d3332fa132ad8ab2c3cf2457cc ...
Jan 11 17:00:28 <morphis> Tofe: http://files.gravedo.de/kernel.diff
Jan 11 17:00:33 <morphis> as it was a rebase it got lost
Jan 11 17:00:40 <morphis> but I have the commits still locally
Jan 11 17:02:04 <Tofe> ok
Jan 11 17:02:47 <Tofe> in the tree you've given me, where were we in that tree ? At the bottom ?
Jan 11 17:03:28 <morphis> we have currently twelf patches
Jan 11 17:03:43 <Tofe> ah ok
Jan 11 17:04:08 <morphis> Tofe: http://files.gravedo.de/patches.tar
Jan 11 17:04:18 <morphis> that are all patches we have and need
Jan 11 17:04:41 <morphis> in the diff I gave you our first patch is: * 84900e9 security: Add proper checks for Android specific capability checks
Jan 11 17:04:52 <Tofe> ok
Jan 11 17:05:10 <morphis> I would say lets use pure AOSP and base all our patches on top of it
Jan 11 17:06:32 <Tofe> yes, why not
Jan 11 17:07:44 <morphis> should be a better and safer bed
Jan 11 18:04:37 * DougReeder returns for a bit,but will head back to bed soon (nasea :-(
Jan 11 18:56:11 <Herrie> morphis: Yeah need someone to do stuff at WOCE github :P
Jan 11 18:56:21 <Herrie> Scoutcamper is no admin, so I guess it's Tom ;)
Jan 11 20:29:02 <morphis> Herrie: maybe rwhitby can
Jan 11 20:32:59 <Whitebee> is the tv webos open source?
Jan 11 20:36:58 <JaMa> no, only some components from it which are included in meta-webos
Jan 11 20:41:15 <Whitebee> so open webos will be developed separately (or not at all)?
Jan 11 21:20:52 <Herrie> rwhitby pointed me to Scoutcamper and Ka6sox ;)
Jan 12 02:34:32 <DougReeder_> morphis , I don't think the center-but-unmaximized card can receive keyboard focus, because then there's no way for Just Type to receive focus.
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