**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Mar 19 02:59:58 2014 Mar 19 09:39:03 Hi penk Mar 19 09:39:12 Long time no see! What's up? Mar 19 09:39:17 Herrie|Veer: hey! Mar 19 09:39:39 very good, I'm working on this http://slatekit.org/ Mar 19 09:46:56 Nice :) How could we use this in Ports? We're using QT5 and could use a good browser :P Mar 19 09:50:35 QtWebKit is so 2013 Mar 19 09:50:58 # http://penkia.blogspot.com/2014/03/slatekit-shell-ported-to-oxide-webview.html Mar 19 09:51:38 LOL :P We'd like new stuff :) We're on QT 5.2 (or 5.2.1) morphis can confirm. Oxide would be nice :) Mar 19 09:54:03 Herrie|Veer, penk: I am not sure how much canonical/ubuntu specific things will end up in oxide Mar 19 09:54:17 morphis: I hope not much Mar 19 09:54:45 morphis: if they do mir-specific stuff I'll branch it Mar 19 09:54:58 penk: you're using it on top of ubuntu, right? Mar 19 09:55:04 morphis: nope Mar 19 09:55:07 morphis: EGLFS Mar 19 09:55:38 I mean on top of ubuntu as distribution Mar 19 09:55:51 morphis: yeah Mar 19 09:56:19 it would be interesting to play with it but someone needs to do the cross compilation stuff in OE first :) Mar 19 09:57:47 I'll give it a shot this weekend Mar 19 09:58:36 gotta go, there's a protest :D Mar 19 09:58:38 # http://www.buzzfeed.com/kevintang/taiwanese-students-occupy-parliament-to-protest-illegal-chin?s=mobile Mar 19 09:58:44 You know we have a VirtualBox emulator image available as well nowadays? You can do some testing there :P Mar 19 09:58:58 When you don't have a Nexus device :) Mar 19 09:59:01 Herrie|Veer: ah cool, is it on wiki? Mar 19 09:59:39 Yup http://webos-ports.org/wiki/Emulator Mar 19 10:00:16 Herrie|Veer: got it thx Mar 19 10:04:29 Herrie|Veer: one design question: as user of the system you have the music player open and it playing some music Mar 19 10:04:39 now you open the browser and start watching a video on youtube Mar 19 10:04:52 would you expect the music player to automatically stop playing music? Mar 19 10:06:00 I would expect yes... I willingly choose to open Youtube to play a video while I'm listening to music, I'd expect it to play the video and pause the music. Mar 19 10:06:11 Or better make it an option somewhere :P Mar 19 10:06:40 So user could choose. Running both at the same time is no good for sure :P Mar 19 10:06:41 ok Mar 19 10:06:45 android does this Mar 19 10:06:55 webOS on my touchpad not Mar 19 10:09:04 Let me try my Veer Mar 19 10:13:55 On Veer MPR pauses when I launch a YouTube video Mar 19 10:16:28 ok Mar 19 10:17:55 Either a popup to ask the user what to do (and save this as a setting) or just a system setting would do in my view so user has choice :) Mar 19 10:24:09 the situation is more complex Mar 19 10:29:35 It always is ;) Mar 19 10:29:48 :) Mar 19 10:30:47 What complexities you're running into? Mar 19 10:33:57 you have to some policy management etc. Mar 19 10:34:07 synchronize with the current foreground app etc. Mar 19 10:38:53 Isn't it a matter of adding a (isUsingAudio) property to the list of open apps and send a signal to that app to pause or not based on the preference/setting? Mar 19 10:39:37 Sure I'm oversimplifying things :) Mar 19 10:44:01 Herrie|Veer: I am more the way to centralize the audio playback Mar 19 10:44:21 so you don't have to tell the clients what they need to do with audio but only tell them their playback was stopped Mar 19 10:47:05 Might be safer bet somehow... But you'd want the Music player to pause for example instead of keep playing while muted. So you'd need some mechanism for that too and you'd need to know what is playing at that time? Not sure how this currently works? I gue Mar 19 10:47:05 ss PulseAudio or whatever we use already holds details of the source (app) somehow? Mar 19 10:48:21 it will work transparent to the app Mar 19 10:48:31 the app will only get noticed that playback has stopped Mar 19 10:48:46 everything else is handled in the background Mar 19 10:49:00 like each audio player will register a session with a central media hub Mar 19 10:49:03 over ls2 Mar 19 10:49:29 as we get the application id over ls2 we can do policy based on this and the current foreground application Mar 19 10:50:14 ok makes sense to do it centrally, you don't want to rely on an app not performing what it's supposed to do. Mar 19 10:50:28 right Mar 19 10:50:59 ls2 can also tell you which was first second third etc? Mar 19 10:51:11 Not really a worry for now anyway I guess. Mar 19 10:52:36 first, second, ... app? Mar 19 10:53:50 Yeah. Can imagine a scenario where you close youtube and would like music player to auto-resume. Same after hanging up a call etc :) Mar 19 10:54:30 I now always have music player on when I go home, call the wife, music pauses. End call music continues :) Mar 19 10:54:38 yeah Mar 19 11:04:44 OK :) Just giving some of my real life use cases :) Mar 19 11:13:22 Herrie__: I appreciate that :) Mar 19 23:13:56 hi penk! Mar 19 23:16:08 forget work, I am going to work on Universe! **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Mar 20 02:59:58 2014