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Jun 18 04:47:29 <Herrie> baboo: pong, let me find it for you ;)
Jun 18 04:48:14 <Herrie> baboo: x86 version: http://build.webos-ports.org/webos-ports-staging/wip/images/qemux86/webos-ports-dev-emulator-qemux86.zip
Jun 18 04:48:56 <Herrie> x64 version (last time I checked the mouse didn't work in that one, not sure that is fixed already): http://build.webos-ports.org/webos-ports-staging/wip/images/qemux86-64/webos-ports-dev-emulator-qemux86-64.zip
Jun 18 14:16:24 <Tofe> morphis: tonight I'll PR some notification fixes, so that the maximized cards are correctly resized regarding the notification area
Jun 18 14:20:41 <morphis> Tofe: great
Jun 18 14:30:50 <baboo> sorry Herrie, I was asleep when you chatted
Jun 18 14:31:45 <baboo> thank you for the links, I'm going to help with Preware recognizing ipk urls and decompressing them
Jun 18 14:31:54 <Herrie|Veer> baboo: No worries ;) You're welcome to have a look at the emu. It's far from bugfree but workable in general ;)
Jun 18 14:32:28 <Herrie|Veer> Check with Garfonso to see what he implemented exactly already because he did some bits already ;)
Jun 18 14:32:33 <baboo> alright, hows the actual os?
Jun 18 14:33:44 <Herrie|Veer> It's OK but needs lots of work still... We have no phone and messaging
Jun 18 14:33:49 <baboo> oh
Jun 18 14:34:07 <baboo> at least messaging is easier
Jun 18 14:34:40 <baboo> it's just text
Jun 18 14:35:01 <baboo> and data protocols and servers and sim and plans
Jun 18 14:35:05 <Herrie|Veer> Yeah and IM :P
Jun 18 14:35:16 <baboo> and MMM
Jun 18 14:36:16 <baboo> and SM
Jun 18 14:36:58 <baboo> download of the x64 one is about a third done
Jun 18 14:37:13 <baboo> surprisingly fast internet here
Jun 18 14:39:20 <Herrie|Veer> x64 mouse didn't work for me... x86 works OK but keyboard doesn't work for me for some reason :s
Jun 18 14:39:29 <baboo> on virtualbox?
Jun 18 14:39:35 <Herrie|Veer> And this low level system stuff is over my head ;)
Jun 18 14:39:38 <Herrie|Veer> Yeah :'(
Jun 18 14:39:47 <baboo> for ka6sox its not
Jun 18 14:39:55 <baboo> he loves the kernel
Jun 18 14:41:06 <baboo> yeah, i cyanogenmodded my touchpad because webs didn't have enough apps to offer
Jun 18 14:41:13 <baboo> webos
Jun 18 14:41:39 <Herrie|Veer> I don't need many ;)
Jun 18 14:41:55 <Herrie|Veer> For the few I need I have ACL but it slows it down quite a bit
Jun 18 14:42:06 <Herrie|Veer> Might disable my license and uninstall
Jun 18 14:42:12 <baboo> I mainly need android for Unity game development
Jun 18 14:43:02 <baboo> so webos has problems doing it
Jun 18 14:43:49 <baboo> will glx be in the latest port of x-term kit?
Jun 18 14:44:07 <baboo> xserver, xterm, xecutah?
Jun 18 14:44:23 <baboo> because it wasn't
Jun 18 14:44:55 <baboo> and maybe I can play minecraft on it
Jun 18 14:49:16 <morphis> Garfonso: after the next round of builds has finished node-sqlite3 should work as you need it
Jun 18 14:50:49 <Garfonso> morphis: thanks. Will test it then. :)
Jun 18 14:51:12 <Garfonso> baboo: if you want to play with preware, best place to start might be the feed management.
Jun 18 14:51:26 <baboo> okay
Jun 18 14:51:53 <Garfonso> installing ipks from URLs and filesystem already is implemented (of course you can improve it... but that's quite ok for now)
Jun 18 14:52:22 <Garfonso> if you want to look here: https://github.com/webOS-ports/preware/blob/master/source/ManageFeedsDialog.js that is the dialog for managing feeds. It is still very unfinished and does nothing useful, yet..
Jun 18 14:52:48 <Garfonso> but onFeeds will be called, when the current feed configuration is loaded at startup
Jun 18 14:53:16 <Garfonso> so onFeeds should fill some repeater with the current config, I guess... similar to the old preware
Jun 18 14:53:25 <Garfonso> and then of course add the new feed.
Jun 18 14:54:22 <Garfonso> I think that's a good place to start, because it is quite independent from the rest... which is a lot of stuff to look at. ,)
Jun 18 14:55:21 <baboo> alright, ka6sox said that the ilk downloading needed help
Jun 18 14:58:16 <Garfonso> ipk downloading is done here: https://github.com/webOS-ports/preware/blob/master/source/InstallPackageDialog.js there is not much to it on the JS side, most is handled by ipk service.. it should work.
Jun 18 14:59:04 <Garfonso> currently the issue is that the app-menu is not working. At least Herrie reports that. I haven't tried, yet.. but there were no changes to that in Preware 2, so I guess that's a system issue.
Jun 18 15:02:12 <baboo> how would I push the app to the emulator if there are no palm sdk tools anymore?
Jun 18 15:02:22 <Garfonso> nope.
Jun 18 15:02:37 <Garfonso> for already installed apps I use scp. ;)
Jun 18 15:03:16 <Garfonso> for apps that need an install you can either use preware now (you can browse for the ipk) or do a remotely luna-send call..
Jun 18 15:04:12 <Garfonso> for preware I'd stick to scp, because it is installed in the system space (i.e. /usr/palm/applications instead of /media/cryptofs/... )
Jun 18 15:04:21 <baboo> alright
Jun 18 15:04:24 <baboo> sounds good
Jun 18 15:08:32 <Garfonso> baboo: currently app menu is broken. So you'll have to add something somewhere to open the dialog..
Jun 18 15:09:03 <Garfonso> hm.. easiest way would be to change this line to show instead of hide: https://github.com/webOS-ports/preware/blob/master/source/App.js#L36 ;)
Jun 18 15:11:01 <baboo> okay
Jun 18 15:11:10 <baboo> i have experience with enyo 2
Jun 18 15:11:24 <baboo> is this done in onyx or css/enyo?
Jun 18 15:11:53 <baboo> for sure layout
Jun 18 15:15:42 <baboo> Herrie, what version of linux would I set the emulator type to?
Jun 18 15:15:53 <baboo> other or linux *.*
Jun 18 15:16:12 <Herrie|Veer> baboo: unpack zip and just import the appliance ;)
Jun 18 15:16:22 <Herrie|Veer> It has all settings for you :)
Jun 18 15:16:27 <baboo> okay
Jun 18 15:16:39 <baboo> oh, a restart did it
Jun 18 15:19:01 <Garfonso> baboo: it is mainly onyx.
Jun 18 15:19:13 <baboo> okay, i see that
Jun 18 15:20:54 <baboo> Herrie|Veer, i see that if i drag the menubar down, there is black
Jun 18 15:21:05 <baboo> what is that?
Jun 18 15:21:12 <baboo> on luneos
Jun 18 15:25:12 <Herrie|Veer> Whole black page?
Jun 18 15:25:26 <Herrie|Veer> That's a placeholder for future notification screen ;)
Jun 18 15:26:18 <Herrie|Veer> But I think Tofe is reworking that currently
Jun 18 15:31:03 <Herrie|Veer> Tofe is working out some options for notifications currently (legacy 2.x (bottom) and 3.x style (top) and new variants :) )
Jun 18 15:34:22 <baboo> ah okay
Jun 18 15:34:52 <baboo> I have to go, i'll be back 12:30 Pacific Time
Jun 18 16:44:23 <Nono> is there a OWOS developer online?
Jun 18 17:02:50 <morphis> Tofe: merged
Jun 18 17:03:02 <morphis> Tofe: can you provide a PR for meta-webos-ports to get it into the build too?
Jun 18 17:51:05 * HaDAk applauds all the developers here for their tireless efforts
Jun 18 21:03:39 <baboo> does anyone know how to make the luneOS emulator run at least 20 fps
Jun 18 21:03:59 <baboo> because the regular webos emus worked at 30 fps at least
Jun 18 21:04:32 <baboo> i'm in virtualbox
Jun 18 21:04:36 <Herrie> baboo: I guess it needs some tweaking still ;)
Jun 18 21:04:44 <baboo> oh
Jun 18 21:05:03 <baboo> because I have a really good computer for speed
Jun 18 21:05:25 <baboo> 16G ram, 2GHz 4 cores
Jun 18 21:06:39 <baboo> is there a key for card view and apps instead of the virtual gesture area
Jun 18 21:06:40 <baboo> ?
Jun 18 21:06:44 <Herrie> Might be Wayland that needs some tweaking still. morphis, Tofe or JaMa should be able to tell more abou tthat
Jun 18 21:06:54 <Herrie> baboo: According to code Home should work, but it doesn't :S
Jun 18 21:07:05 <baboo> in the old one it does
Jun 18 21:07:08 <Herrie> Didn't have chance to debug yet....
Jun 18 21:07:22 <baboo> but I don't have a home key on my keyboard
Jun 18 21:07:31 <baboo> so it's useless
Jun 18 21:07:34 <Herrie> See https://github.com/webOS-ports/luna-next-cardshell/blob/f322ac2b9fec09337433252a2fdbfadd9ecdbdb6/qml/WindowManager/LunaGestureArea.qml
Jun 18 21:08:02 <Herrie> Home, Esc and End should do something, but for me they don't... Also input via hardware keyboard doens't work for me in teh input fields
Jun 18 21:08:11 <Herrie> Only via VIrtual KB
Jun 18 21:09:15 <baboo> me neither
Jun 18 21:10:51 <baboo> too bad there is no touchpad version of this
Jun 18 21:11:15 <baboo> I have a touchpad so I could use it
Jun 18 21:11:18 <Herrie> Yeah so far not ;) But morphis is working on something for the Touchpad :)
Jun 18 21:11:25 <baboo> wow
Jun 18 21:11:33 <Herrie> Just it's a lot of work for a single person ;)
Jun 18 21:11:37 <Herrie> It's all kernel stuff
Jun 18 21:11:52 <baboo> i see
Jun 18 21:14:59 <Herrie> We're using CM Android + Ubuntu Phablet + Our bits to build LuneOS
Jun 18 21:15:12 <Herrie> So not easy to get all working together ;)
Jun 18 21:15:17 <Herrie> Anyway I'm off to bed for today ;)
Jun 18 21:15:23 <baboo> well, is there any way to debug on chrome?p
Jun 18 21:15:28 <baboo> oops
Jun 18 21:15:40 <Herrie|ZzZzZzZz> There is some...
Jun 18 21:16:40 <Herrie|ZzZzZzZz> http://webos-ports.org/wiki/Luna_Next_Remote_WebApplication_Debugging
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