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Sep 11 03:43:10 <ka6sox> LuneOSCurious, interesting Nick.
Sep 11 03:59:31 <jcsullins> ka6sox: wrt the volume name and dropping -root: I'd prefer it was kept since that makes it much easier to do certain things in tptoolbox
Sep 11 04:00:45 <ka6sox> jcsullins, okay np
Sep 11 04:00:48 <ka6sox> I'll do that then
Sep 11 04:01:41 <ka6sox> okay the initscript will handle both places.
Sep 11 04:02:24 <jcsullins> huh? not sure I follow
Sep 11 04:03:06 <ka6sox> the initscript for the kernel will look for the roots in both places and boot the one that is there. (first luneos-root then ext3fs) so we can use it for existing people.
Sep 11 04:03:43 <jcsullins> ahh, ok,  very nice
Sep 11 04:03:56 <ka6sox> okay I'll push that change up now
Sep 11 04:03:57 <jcsullins> now I just need to get un-sidetracked and implement my part, I guess
Sep 11 04:04:04 <ka6sox> he he...
Sep 11 04:04:05 <ka6sox> np
Sep 11 04:04:18 <ka6sox> my son I think emailed you before I could tell him that you and I spoke.
Sep 11 04:05:12 <jcsullins> ahh, yeah, I'm bad about responding to emails, been meaning to do so
Sep 11 04:06:30 <jcsullins> the "install tptoolbox" so you don't have to use novacom each time to load it is on the "todo list"
Sep 11 04:06:45 <ka6sox> good
Sep 11 04:22:59 <ka6sox> jcsullins, thanks for being willing to look into that…it will be a very nice system.
Sep 11 04:24:12 <jcsullins> surprised nobody's asked for touch support yet :)
Sep 11 04:26:37 <ka6sox> I'm sure if they thought about it they would...
Sep 11 04:37:39 <jcsullins> ka6sox: oh they thought about it for moboot
Sep 11 04:42:36 <ka6sox> aha
Sep 11 04:44:39 <jcsullins> ka6sox: btw, can you tell me where it builds the initrd script in question? (where you added luneos-root)
Sep 11 04:46:13 <jcsullins> ka6sox: oh nvm, just found it
Sep 11 04:48:31 <ka6sox> right, I've not pushed it up yet, going to test locally first
Sep 11 04:48:35 <Garfonso> morning
Sep 11 04:48:41 <ka6sox> morning Garfonso
Sep 11 04:52:42 <jcsullins> ka6sox: yeah, np about pushing yet, just trying to find my way around the build system mainly
Sep 11 04:53:48 <ka6sox> kk..understood.
Sep 11 04:54:40 <ka6sox> I believe the kernel is built out of OE and then packaged with the initramfs using Uimage tools
Sep 11 05:01:21 <jcsullins> yeah, knew that part; just didn't know where initrd part was
Sep 11 07:35:55 <Herrie|Veer> Garfonso: ping
Sep 11 07:36:51 <Garfonso> Herrie|Veer: pong
Sep 11 07:38:03 <Herrie|Veer> I saw you did some updates to Preware 2 and Settings y'day. We had some PR's pending from John (cobblemonster). Not sure they're addressing the same. Specifically for Settings
Sep 11 07:38:18 <Herrie|Veer> For Preware 2 he only did something on app menu
Sep 11 07:39:10 <Herrie|Veer> which is webos-lib. So I'm more curious what you fixed exactly for updates in Settings app. I asked John to look into layout because it was at the bottom of screen on my N4 instead of where it should be..
Sep 11 07:43:18 <Garfonso> yes, I tried to fix  that. ;)
Sep 11 07:43:43 <Herrie|Veer> Ah ok :)
Sep 11 07:44:16 <Herrie|Veer> I noticed that in preware 2 the bottom buttons are not properly aligned on N4. Did you fix that too?
Sep 11 07:44:58 <Herrie|Veer> P.s. might be good to add a count to the feeds for each group? Or we leave that to our Enyo UI guy?
Sep 11 07:45:39 <Garfonso> probably not.. I only tinkered with install file dialog, because I know that one had issues... or do you mean the cancel button in file picker? I fixed that one
Sep 11 07:46:17 <Herrie|Veer> No the bottom row, 1 button is off screen
Sep 11 07:46:22 <Herrie|Veer> Let me find the screenshot
Sep 11 07:46:27 <Garfonso> don't know... for me figuring out UI stuff really takes long. If we have people willing to do it,  better let them do it. ;)
Sep 11 07:47:06 <Garfonso> we can also overwrite my changes with the ones from https://github.com/webOS-ports/org.webosports.app.settings/pull/26 .. it is a different approach, but may be more legit.
Sep 11 07:49:03 <Garfonso> Preware 2 UI could use a through overhaul, like using models & collections & bindings...
Sep 11 07:49:20 <Garfonso> it is very clunky.. :-/
Sep 11 07:50:14 <Herrie|Veer> Oh well :P
Sep 11 07:50:21 <Herrie|Veer> UI also not my thing
Sep 11 07:50:36 <Herrie|Veer> Email is still Garfonso@mobo right?
Sep 11 07:51:16 <Garfonso> yes
Sep 11 07:51:56 <Herrie|Veer> Sent you screenshot from weekend build
Sep 11 07:52:02 <Herrie|Veer> So you can see what I mean
Sep 11 07:56:41 <Garfonso> yes.. those are not really optimized for phones / portrait mode... :-/
Sep 11 07:57:44 <Herrie|Veer> But you didn't fix that yet? Can ask John to look into that then :P
Sep 11 07:58:40 <Herrie|Veer> And for settings/update we need to see what works best. Usually I need to have a few versions from John before it meets my strict standards :P
Sep 11 08:03:13 <Herrie|Veer> I'll put latest Mako build on N4 shortly and do some testing
Sep 11 08:07:41 <Garfonso> for me it worked ok with my changes... but for testing builds you won't get update information anymore, because updates are not supported for testing builds.. ;)
Sep 11 08:08:31 <Garfonso> for testing purposes you can edit /etc/webos-relase and replace "test" with "stable" and maybe the 0 with 22 or something (0 probably means that you'll get a LONG list of changes... maybe not the worst thing either)
Sep 11 08:12:12 <Herrie|Veer> ok
Sep 11 14:22:26 <Herrie|Veer> Tofe|Away: ping
Sep 11 14:32:26 <nizovn> Herrie|Veer: btw is it expected that browser can't launch in recent build? I can show logs, if not.
Sep 11 14:44:15 <morphis> Herrie: ^^
Sep 11 14:59:40 <Herrie|Veer> nizovn: Hmmmz work l
Sep 11 14:59:46 <Herrie|Veer> works on my N4
Sep 11 14:59:59 <nizovn> ok, will check again
Sep 11 15:06:08 <Herrie|Veer> I noticed that sometimes it doesn't launch for me. I reboot N4 and it works
Sep 11 15:06:19 <Herrie|Veer> Seems to be launcher related not the app maybe
Sep 11 15:06:25 <Herrie|Veer> But you can provide log :)
Sep 11 15:16:17 <nizovn> Herrie|Veer|2: in my build it says:
Sep 11 15:16:18 <nizovn> Errors while loading app from  QUrl( "file:///usr/palm/applications/org.webosports.app.browser/qml/main.qml" )
Sep 11 15:16:18 <nizovn> (file:///usr/palm/applications/org.webosports.app.browser/qml/main.qml:116:5: Type NavigationBar unavailable
Sep 11 15:16:19 <nizovn> NavigationBar {
Sep 11 15:16:19 <nizovn> ^, file:///usr/palm/applications/org.webosports.app.browser/qml/NavigationBar.qml:25:1: "Utils": no such directory
Sep 11 15:16:20 <nizovn> import "Utils"
Sep 11 15:16:22 <nizovn> ^)
Sep 11 15:20:51 <Herrie|Veer|2> Hmmmz
Sep 11 15:21:02 <Herrie|Veer|2> Could be I forgot to push those...
Sep 11 15:21:11 <Herrie|Veer|2> I have a new PR ready soon...
Sep 11 15:21:18 <Herrie|Veer|2> Let me push this first
Sep 11 15:21:44 <Herrie|Veer|2> Sorry my mistake...
Sep 11 15:21:56 <Herrie|Veer|2> Forgot to push that one...
Sep 11 15:25:07 <GodGinrai> lol
Sep 11 15:26:28 <Herrie|Veer|2> As a fix you can copy the Utils folder from /usr/palm/luna-next/shells/card/qml to /usr/palm/applications/org.webosports.app.browser/qml
Sep 11 15:26:38 <nizovn> ok :)
Sep 11 15:29:35 <Herrie|Veer|2> Ok PR for the file is in org.webosports.app.browser as well
Sep 11 15:30:15 <Herrie|Veer|2> Have some other browser stuff pending that I'll PR shortly too :) Hope to have ironed out some more bugs + added some more features :)
Sep 11 16:27:56 <Herrie|Veer|2> OK seems like I sorted most obvious bugs today including VKB breaking :)
Sep 11 16:28:10 <Herrie|Veer|2> Browser looks solid now, can focus on more features :)
Sep 11 16:28:26 <Herrie|Veer|2> Will do some code cleanup and prepare PR :)
Sep 11 16:28:48 <Herrie|Veer|2> nizovn: N4 screen unlock issue seems solved :D
Sep 11 16:28:59 <Herrie|Veer|2> Thnx for the work on this with morphis!
Sep 11 16:32:18 <nizovn> Herrie|Veer|2: that was only morphis, i couldn't understand reason of bug and worked only on emulator. Hope it will work in next submission too.:)
Sep 11 16:57:59 <Tofe> Herrie|Veer|2: pong
Sep 11 16:59:17 <Herrie|Veer|2> Tofe: Sorted it without FocusScope, turned out I needed to put focus before qt.inputmethod.show() ;)
Sep 11 16:59:34 <Tofe> oh, ok ! very good !
Sep 11 17:00:07 <Herrie|Veer|2> Seems like browser is "bugfree" now. Need your help with some other QML stuff but will post that later
Sep 11 17:00:27 <Herrie|Veer|2> Cleaning up code and will make PR. We have UA manipulation now too :D
Sep 11 17:01:28 <Herrie|Veer|2> I'm looking for some way to swipe & delete items from history and bookmarks similar to legacy. You have any ideas/samples I could use?
Sep 11 17:02:37 <Herrie|Veer|2> Also other address bar issues have been solved, got button to be added via Tweaks to force toggle of vkb as well ;=
Sep 11 17:02:39 <Herrie|Veer|2> :P
Sep 11 17:03:08 <Herrie|Veer|2> Next up: Find on page and some other Tweaks :) And see if we can do multi card etc :D
Sep 11 17:04:12 <Herrie|Veer|2> Sharing options need fixing still but other than that seems it's coming along nicely this week. Also will look into "search suggestions" and see if that goes with our implementation or not
Sep 11 17:04:14 <Tofe> Herrie: the swipe I use for the notifications is a bit heavy, I'd like to rewrite it a bit at some point in time
Sep 11 17:05:09 <Herrie|Veer|2> I guess I could do a "hold" and show the "delete" and "cancel" button in an "overlay" or something
Sep 11 17:05:31 <Herrie|Veer|2> Anyway these are not critical
Sep 11 17:05:39 <Herrie|Veer|2> Need to work on settings page too
Sep 11 17:06:55 <Herrie|Veer|2> But might need help on the initial simple page + app menu. Maybe you can do that after my next PR? Menu + blank page will do. I can take it from there ;)
Sep 11 17:07:37 <Herrie|Veer|2> Did that with rest of browser too. Just I'm not that familiar with signals, connections etc and would probably take me a day or 2 to figure it out :P
Sep 11 17:08:01 <Herrie|Veer|2> And for you I'm sure it would be "easy" ;)
Sep 11 17:31:09 <Tofe> yep, I could sketch something
Sep 11 17:39:44 <Herrie|Veer|2> Great just menu + page and I take it from there
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