**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Sep 13 02:59:58 2014 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Sep 13 13:56:10 2014 Sep 13 15:05:18 Hello, I have hopefully a quick question regarding contributions to org.webosports.app.browser Sep 13 15:05:31 should pull request be generated against the master or any particular branch? Sep 13 15:08:21 master Sep 13 15:08:55 But you can make a new branch in case it's big and might interfere with other ongoing work Sep 13 15:09:03 So we can cherry pick where needed Sep 13 15:09:41 Most my work is on there anyway stuff I'm working on now is mainly app menu, settings which is pretty separate from the app itself for nwo Sep 13 15:10:42 Okay, saw the app menu stuff, I had duplicated some of it so I'll toss that aside in favor of what's there. Sep 13 15:11:05 I've got just a small update to add a launch paramater to take the target url Sep 13 15:11:47 so just a couple of lines to component.oncompleted Sep 13 15:12:27 You can put it anyway Sep 13 15:12:40 App menu maybe your implementation is nicer ;) Sep 13 15:14:13 lol, not at the moment. but i'll take a closer look at whats there to see if i can add/improve on it Sep 13 15:26:37 I try to keep the readme on GH updated on latest progress of what I've fixed Sep 13 15:28:05 What I'm currently working on is the following: App menu + settings page, I've further improved the bookmarks display to look similar to legacy (didn't push yet). Looking into "find on page" and also "search suggestions" Sep 13 15:28:21 Find on page and search suggestions i didn't do much on yet to be honest Sep 13 15:28:29 There is an example for that from Blackberry Sep 13 15:28:38 So should be fairly straight forward Sep 13 15:28:47 Also looking into the authentication for websites Sep 13 15:28:58 Code for this is available in the sample browser from QT Sep 13 15:29:23 What's also on my to-do list is the "swipe to delete" bookmarks and history, but have no clue how to do this Sep 13 15:35:24 Herrie: how are your bookmarks & history items presented ? in a vertical listview ? Sep 13 15:53:06 Tofe: Yeah Sep 13 15:53:35 thrrgilag: You could work on the authentication part, find on page for example or the swipe to delete maybe? Sep 13 15:53:43 Or other ideas in case you have some ;) Sep 13 15:53:52 Copy & paste also needs sorting still Sep 13 15:55:09 Herrie: certainly lots to do. :) Sep 13 15:56:03 what image does testing normally occur against? tenderloin? qemux86? Sep 13 15:56:27 Herrie: for the swipe to delete, you'll have to build it by hand: first, the buttons behind (Cancel and Delete), then, the bookmark item, and over that, a MouseArea that drags the bookmark item along X to reveal the buttons behind Sep 13 16:05:00 thrrgilag: preferably all ;) Sep 13 16:05:06 I test on N4 and TP myself Sep 13 16:06:18 And lots of things can be tested with Qt Creator but not all Sep 13 16:06:29 Might need to work something out for that as well sometime Sep 13 16:10:42 I've been testing primarly on my TP, sounds like I should at least hit the emulator as well. Sep 13 16:12:59 Herrie, morphis: a little preview of what's coming next: https://github.com/webOS-ports/luna-next-cardshell/commit/4d2e1b7539cf940908b0aebb4e0a34ee13c090fc Sep 13 16:16:49 Tp is fine Sep 13 16:16:52 I can test N4 Sep 13 16:16:57 I tested mainly on N4 lately Sep 13 16:17:02 Need to do TP again too Sep 13 16:17:14 But try to make sure layout wise stuff works on both Sep 13 16:17:28 But not using too much hard anchors and margins etc Sep 13 16:19:14 I use QT Creator for TP resolution testing and N4 to test all the backend DB stuffs Sep 13 16:19:59 Tofe: looking good, will test it sometime :) Sep 13 16:37:57 does anyone know how to get the vmdk to boot in virtualbox? Sep 13 16:38:17 The instructions on the webpage are miassing Sep 13 18:30:49 morning Alan_Morford Sep 13 18:31:00 well hello Sep 13 18:31:14 this is the happening place Sep 13 18:31:22 Yes LOL Sep 13 18:31:45 I've been to less exciting bars I guess. Sep 13 18:34:21 Ha! Sep 13 18:34:58 I found that overwriting the LuneOS dev nightly with the latest version had some interesting effects. Wifi setting stayed although I had to reboot to get it to turn back on, google connector stayed but my configured gmail account was gone and the "first use" warning didn't show Sep 13 18:36:57 AKA - I ignored the very specific "if you want to reinstall the image" instructions to see what would happen. Sep 13 18:37:23 Off the Reservation! Danger! Sep 13 18:37:32 and YMMV Sep 13 18:37:52 It was a fun science experiment at least. Sep 13 18:38:15 Alan_Morford, actually write that up, maybe we can get it to be persistent across upgrades. Sep 13 18:39:05 instead of a db entry maybe a file in /media/cryptofs. Sep 13 18:39:35 What would you like to be persistent? I think we should send out a warning tweet about what happens if you don't remove the /media/ext3fs folder and start from scratch when going from dev to dev image Sep 13 18:41:29 yup Sep 13 18:41:31 he he Sep 13 18:42:35 To anyone, will notifications for tablet builds remain to be on the bottom? Sep 13 18:43:18 Alan_Morford: We had long discussions about that, I think we agreed in the end we'd like to give user the choice via Tweaks;) Sep 13 18:43:48 I love it. The less segmentation between versions the better. Sep 13 18:44:14 Lots of these things are initial version Sep 13 18:44:40 Notifications are going through some rework currently. For example to overwrite notifications (you might have noticed multiple battery ones) Sep 13 18:44:47 Should be 1 where old one gets overwritten Sep 13 18:51:12 Email just won't pull down message body for me. I know it's old and will be rewritten so it's all good. Sep 13 18:52:09 For fun I manually added my HP wifi printer. No surprises to the outcome. error Sep 13 18:53:29 Herrie good job on the browser! Last dev build I had was from 12 days ago and the url never changed! Sep 13 18:53:36 Looks a lot better Sep 13 19:15:25 Lots of things under the hood have been improved as well, not all very visible ;) Sep 13 20:31:17 Notifications ! I'm on it ! **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Sep 13 22:07:00 2014 Sep 13 22:07:16 I actually don't really like starting from scratch with each new dev image. Sep 13 23:18:42 Hi. I posted an email on the woce mailing list indicating I was willing to help in any way I can with luneos development Sep 13 23:19:54 Someone had suggested I come to this channel to start. First of, I'm not too familiar with IRC commands, rules or etiquette, so please go easy on my. I'm here to help webOS Sep 13 23:20:08 howdy richi Sep 13 23:20:18 Anybody who's willing to take me under their wing until I get up to speed, please let me know :) Sep 13 23:20:38 saw the email was about to respond…glad you are here. Sep 13 23:20:41 Hi, ka6sox. I've seen that nick before :) Sep 13 23:20:45 Thanks Sep 13 23:21:11 I was glad to read the post on pivotce about the developments on openwebos Sep 13 23:21:28 Hey, that's my baby, pivotCE! Sep 13 23:21:28 I ordered myself a Nexus 4 and it should be here soon Sep 13 23:21:43 Alan_Morford: Thanks for that! Extremely helpful Sep 13 23:22:03 Wasn't that also the name of the next version of the App store? Sep 13 23:22:15 I think so! Sep 13 23:22:26 Anyway ... I thought I'd try to install the VirtualBox emulator image as well Sep 13 23:22:50 richip, if you feel like it…one of the best places to start looking @ what is needed is the bug tracker... Sep 13 23:23:06 since its the weekend not as many debs here now. Sep 13 23:23:10 Devs that is Sep 13 23:23:12 There's not much information on the wiki. There's a link to the stable and unstable images, but I couldn't find the instructions to use it. I grabbed a VMDK image and had to google some to figure out how to import that Sep 13 23:23:26 Okay. Will have a look Sep 13 23:23:32 issues.webos-ports.org Sep 13 23:23:41 if you create an account there I'll set you up. Sep 13 23:24:04 Is there any documentation on the architecture? I'm familiar with the linux kernel and am starting to figure out systemd (was used to sysv init for a long time) Sep 13 23:24:07 just come back here after you create the account. Sep 13 23:24:11 Okay Sep 13 23:24:22 and I'll get you promoted Sep 13 23:25:28 account created, activated and logged in Sep 13 23:25:34 username: richip :) Sep 13 23:27:52 same username alanmorford Sep 13 23:30:53 richip, what kinds of things do you like to work on? Sep 13 23:34:26 That's a bit tough to answer. I like working on any aspect of a project if I happen to like the project Sep 13 23:34:39 And in this case, I like everything about webOS Sep 13 23:35:08 Granted, the things I thought before that I wanted the devs to improve on were more connectors for Messenger Sep 13 23:35:28 I'm fine to work on frontend, backend or even low level stuff Sep 13 23:36:11 How's the phone dialer app? I hear that's a work-in-progress Sep 13 23:36:50 it'd be nice, though, if I could learn how webOS works from the ground up. Starting from booting up the kernel, to systemd, to the various processes that get started Sep 13 23:37:20 and finally to UI Sep 13 23:37:29 the boot process depends on which device you are on. Sep 13 23:37:57 It'll be the Nexus 4, then. Don't think I'll dual boot my TouchPad for a while Sep 13 23:38:00 but they all lead to a initramFS followed by a switch root to the real rootfs. Sep 13 23:38:10 and I'll be using the phone more than anything Sep 13 23:38:37 gotcha Sep 13 23:38:41 then Systemd takes over and brings it up Sep 13 23:39:27 let me read up on systemd first ... so that when I get a chance to look at the filesystem, I'll know what processes need to be started and when Sep 13 23:39:41 Even if I don't know what they do for now Sep 13 23:40:00 all our repos are here: https://github.com/webOS-ports Sep 13 23:40:28 what's a quick way to get shell access to the filesystem? (emulator for now till the nexus 4 arrives) Sep 13 23:40:32 nova? Sep 13 23:41:25 for now we have been using adbd for host/target Sep 13 23:41:31 but there is a onboard terminal Sep 13 23:43:39 if we can get things like Optware and ssh working that would be good ASAP. Sep 13 23:53:43 richip, what TZ are you in? Sep 14 00:23:32 afternoon choorp Sep 14 00:23:51 Heya Sep 14 00:24:42 how goes things? Sep 14 00:26:22 Not good. I dropped my FirefoxOS phone in the toilet an hour or so ago. I think it's done for. :/ Sep 14 00:26:41 Bowl of rice! Sep 14 00:26:46 Besides that, pretty great I guess.. heh Sep 14 00:27:25 Yea, it's in a bowl of rice now. I could hear it sizzling though, so... not looking good. Sep 14 00:27:40 choorp, my wife did the same thing with her N4…but the bowl of rice should help Sep 14 00:27:41 Oohh Sep 14 00:29:38 Hopefully it does help. I just so happened to have the back cover off when it fell in too. Talk about bad luck.. lol Sep 14 00:32:30 At least it died before I had my app published in the Marketplace. I can just cut my losses now since I don't have any users to support. Sep 14 00:33:41 owwie Sep 14 00:36:10 Hey, does LuneOS need a podcast listening app? I just so happen to have one that doesn't have a home anymore. lol Sep 14 00:37:32 choorp, sure! the more the merrier :) Sep 14 00:39:01 choorp, we might have to fix a few audio glitches here and there :0 Sep 14 00:42:59 Heh, no worries. It would take me forever to get it running on LuneOS anyway. Sep 14 00:43:22 :( Sep 14 00:43:33 we would love excellent apps like yours. Sep 14 00:44:23 That's what I've been telling him for months! ;) Okay so it was for legacy and no one could blame him but still... Sep 14 00:45:18 I don't know about "excellent" but I was pretty happy with how this latest one turned out. lol Sep 14 00:49:53 Alan_Morford: "Months"? Feels like years. :P Sep 14 00:50:18 Alright choorp, I'll stop bugging you. Sep 14 00:50:21 ;) Sep 14 00:53:23 Feel free to bug away. I do plan on getting in on this eventually. Sep 14 00:53:37 (It feels like I've been saying that for years too. lol) Sep 14 00:55:58 Do you believe in fate? Because considering recent events, it might be all in the cards. Sep 14 00:56:47 I dunno man.. My app already killed one phone... Sep 14 01:00:04 choorp, considering what happened to you and my wife's phone…I'm not so sure what the message is... Sep 14 01:06:23 I'm sure you guys must hate these questions, but... Any word on LuneOS running on a Nexus 5? Sep 14 01:07:50 choorp, we do so…however I can tell you not anytime soon that I know of …nobody I know is working on it (but I could be wrong!) Sep 14 01:09:09 Did you read the pivotCE news blurb about LG webOS on a Nexus 5? Sep 14 01:10:36 ka6sox: No worries! I'm just curious to see LuneOS in person and test some things. Maybe someday! :) Sep 14 01:10:49 Alan: Yep, I saw that. Interesting! Sep 14 01:11:35 With my luck, Open webOS/LuneOS will make it's debut on the Nexus 5 right after I sell it. lol Sep 14 01:12:33 choorp, it does run on a TP Sep 14 01:13:08 I was about to say, I know he's got a touchpad as a drink coaster around his office somewhere. Sep 14 01:19:14 Already gave/loaned my Touchpad to a family member a while ago... Sep 14 01:22:16 do you miss it? Sep 14 01:26:36 Ehh, not the hardware. I do miss webOS though. I've been using Android, Windows Phone, and FirefoxOS (well not anymore, I guess) and still really miss webOS's card multitasking. Sep 14 01:27:30 that is what sets it apart Sep 14 01:32:12 Definitely. I miss it so much that I've considered learning Android dev just to make a webOS-like launcher. Sep 14 01:36:23 now you don't have to? Sep 14 01:36:24 :) Sep 14 01:37:32 It's still on my list of things to do "when I find the time"! But yea... probably won't ever get around to that. lol Sep 14 01:39:23 I find as I get older my roundtuit's are falling off the radar Sep 14 01:41:37 I'm beginning to feel that now. So many ideas for projects that I'll never end up doing. If only I had the time... Sep 14 01:45:54 you know its bad when your "Bucket List" is becoming a Mug List... Sep 14 02:09:51 okay I'd best get some work done here...bbl **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Sep 14 02:59:59 2014