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Sep 17 05:51:16 <richip> Hi, All.
Sep 17 05:51:31 <richip> Need help installing luneos on the Nexus 4
Sep 17 05:51:55 <richip> Followed all the instructions on http://webos-ports.org/wiki/Install_LuneOS_for_Mako but seems to fail somewhere
Sep 17 05:53:06 <richip> It seems to be okay after installing ClockworkMod, but when I boot to recovery, it first show the Google logo then the android icon with the text "No command"
Sep 17 05:53:27 <richip> I'm guessing this isn't ClockworkMod. I try to do adb sideload ... after, but that fails
Sep 17 07:08:38 <Tofe> Qt 5.3.2 released  http://blog.qt.digia.com/blog/2014/09/16/qt-5-3-2-released-with-qt-creator-3-2-1/
Sep 17 07:53:16 <morphis> richip: hm, looks like something went wrong with flashing the recovery
Sep 17 08:00:53 <Garfonso> wappmanb: going to 4.2.2 is quite easy.. get the image from the google page and do what it says there. ;) https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
Sep 17 08:01:05 <Garfonso> but maybe we should add the link to the instructions for nexus 4 at least...
Sep 17 08:04:30 <Herrie|Veer> Garfonso: Let me sort that right now :P
Sep 17 08:04:55 <Garfonso> I hoped you'd say that... because those wiki with template stuff freaks me out. :p
Sep 17 08:05:26 <Herrie|Veer> Yeah it's not always very clear/logical :P Took me a while to figure out too :P
Sep 17 08:22:09 <Herrie|Veer> OK done
Sep 17 09:27:54 <Herrie|Veer> Tofe: ping
Sep 17 09:28:03 <Herrie|Veer> Seems I broke your latest code too :P
Sep 17 09:28:20 <Herrie|Veer> Got a card stuck while trying to place it in between 2 other cards :P
Sep 17 09:53:08 <Tofe> Herrie|Veer: ah, it's not my latest code anymore ! I promoted a new one, with fixes already ! And I think it's the good one now
Sep 17 09:53:42 <Herrie|Veer> Ok let me try :P
Sep 17 09:55:04 <Herrie|Veer> I was trying the ratios branch
Sep 17 09:55:20 <Herrie|Veer> I was able to get the card stuck there pretty much every time :P
Sep 17 09:58:28 <Herrie|Veer> Ok tried your regular branch now
Sep 17 09:58:44 <Herrie|Veer> Seems to work better but was still able to get cards stuck
Sep 17 09:59:32 <Herrie|Veer> I created 3 stacks. 1 center stack with 3 card, a stack on the right with 2 card. I tried to move my single card on the left to the right stack and it got stuck
Sep 17 10:48:19 <Tofe> Herrie: which branch ?
Sep 17 10:48:39 <Tofe> I'll delete the ratio branch very soon, it was a unfruitful try
Sep 17 10:51:12 <Tofe> Herrie: I tried your scenario, but couldn't get stuck
Sep 17 10:59:46 <Tofe> Anyway I think this version is ready for integration, I'll request a PR. We'll fix the bugs along the way.
Sep 17 11:03:24 <Tofe> morphis: https://github.com/webOS-ports/luna-next-cardshell/pull/128
Sep 17 11:05:37 <morphis> Tofe: card stacking is still only enabled when the tweak option is?
Sep 17 11:07:43 <Tofe> morphis: oooh, let me check, maybe there's a mistake in there
Sep 17 11:08:17 <Tofe> good that you asked, I did put the default value to true
Sep 17 11:09:37 <Tofe> morphis: fixed. It's now as you say.
Sep 17 11:10:01 <morphis> Tofe: ok :)
Sep 17 11:10:29 <morphis> Tofe: but it's working better than before now?
Sep 17 11:10:38 <Tofe> morphis: oh yes
Sep 17 11:10:55 <Tofe> I would even dare to say I's usable daily
Sep 17 11:11:20 <morphis> great
Sep 17 11:11:24 <Tofe> The feeling is now quite near the TP one
Sep 17 11:11:29 <morphis> works now the same as on legacy?
Sep 17 11:11:42 <Tofe> yes
Sep 17 11:12:51 <Tofe> I prepared the terrain for stack spreading, which should now be a piece of cake to implement
Sep 17 11:13:31 <Tofe> s/terrain/code/
Sep 17 11:15:21 <morphis> ok
Sep 17 11:15:38 <morphis> Tofe: one thing we then have to add is that cards launched by other cards are put in the same stack
Sep 17 11:17:54 <Tofe> yes, right
Sep 17 11:18:22 <Tofe> but we don't have that parenting information today, do we ?
Sep 17 11:27:44 <morphis> Tofe: no we don't have it yet
Sep 17 11:27:57 <morphis> in legacy there was a launchingProcId set for every window
Sep 17 11:29:43 <morphis> Tofe: I would propose we have two new window properties "procId" and "launchingProcId"
Sep 17 11:29:54 <morphis> so you can do the grouping based on those
Sep 17 11:30:51 <Tofe> morphis: yep, ok
Sep 17 11:31:12 <morphis> need to look how we implement those
Sep 17 11:31:16 <morphis> for web apps that is easy
Sep 17 11:31:24 <morphis> for QML and native apps it will be a bit harder
Sep 17 11:33:24 <morphis> Tofe: but you can do the implementation based on this and we can add the properties later
Sep 17 11:39:09 <Tofe> morphis: yes
Sep 17 11:39:17 <morphis> good
Sep 17 12:04:39 <Herrie|Veer> Tofe: Will try to replicate on N4/TP, this was on desktop
Sep 17 12:05:17 <Herrie|Veer> Tofe/morphis: You know webkits supports ftp, data and about uri in the QML WebViews?
Sep 17 12:05:42 <morphis> about, data?
Sep 17 12:05:51 <morphis> ftp should be supported if the feature is enabled
Sep 17 12:06:16 <Herrie|Veer> about:blank, about:, about:about, about:plugins, about:cache
Sep 17 12:06:31 <Herrie|Veer> data seems used for local urls in general for example images
Sep 17 12:07:10 <morphis> Herrie: about: is afiak up to the browser
Sep 17 12:07:18 <morphis> you mean file://?
Sep 17 12:08:07 <Herrie|Veer> No data
Sep 17 12:08:18 <Herrie|Veer> TP seems to support it
Sep 17 12:08:29 <Herrie|Veer> It's called data uri scheme
Sep 17 12:08:55 <Herrie|Veer> Functionality seems similar to file though
Sep 17 12:11:07 <morphis> should be supported
Sep 17 12:11:23 <Herrie|Veer> OK :P
Sep 17 12:11:38 <Herrie|Veer> about we need to handle ourselves I guess
Sep 17 12:11:46 <Herrie|Veer> I'll allow them for now then
Sep 17 12:12:20 <Herrie|Veer> Just need to fix some of the app launching so can do this while at it because we need to prefix url with http:// when it doesn't have it ;)
Sep 17 12:24:42 <Herrie|Veer> morphis: Any suggestions for the Enyo 1 apps not launching? Going back to Affogato and use the webapp-launcher to get the debug at least for now?
Sep 17 12:30:09 <Herrie|Veer> Tofe: 2 small PR's in for browser
Sep 17 13:04:32 <Tofe> Herrie|Veer: two ?
Sep 17 13:04:52 <Herrie|Veer> Sorry 1 PR 2 changes
Sep 17 13:06:21 <Tofe> looks good
Sep 17 13:06:51 <Tofe> A Tweak to choose to have https by default would be welcome, nowadays :p
Sep 17 13:14:04 <morphis> Tofe: yeah
Sep 17 13:14:27 <morphis> Herrie|Veer: would be a option
Sep 17 13:16:01 <Herrie|Veer> OK can do that. Not all sites do https... So not sure we can check that somehow?
Sep 17 13:44:01 <morphis> Herrie: the https everywhere plugin for chrome/firefox has a list of supported urls
Sep 17 13:44:02 <morphis> https://github.com/EFForg/https-everywhere/tree/master/src/chrome/content/rules
Sep 17 13:47:29 <Tofe> morphis: it will be something like that https://github.com/webOS-ports/luna-next-cardshell/commit/203c3ee28a91db532341f183ef682b839c8b8293
Sep 17 13:47:52 <Tofe> ( ** not ** tested )
Sep 17 13:50:20 <morphis> Tofe: looks good
Sep 17 13:51:10 <Tofe> morphis: the only thing is that the process id might not be unique enough, if a process has several cards
Sep 17 13:52:02 <morphis> Tofe: hm
Sep 17 13:52:24 <morphis> if we have multiple cards per app process all would have the same procId
Sep 17 13:52:34 <Tofe> we do have a winId though
Sep 17 13:52:48 <morphis> but if the user moves on of them into another group we will have a problem to find the right card
Sep 17 13:52:59 <morphis> s/on of/one of/
Sep 17 13:54:05 <Tofe> the starting point if a LS2 call by the card that wants to launch a card, isn't it?
Sep 17 13:54:08 <Tofe> is*
Sep 17 13:54:52 <morphis> yeah
Sep 17 13:57:53 <Tofe> that's where we lose the card information; but how to retrieve it, I don't know
Sep 17 13:58:24 <Tofe> .... how did legacy code do, actually ? It had the same problem
Sep 17 14:03:26 <morphis> they at least foward the launchingProcId but its possible that the procId is different for each card
Sep 17 14:03:38 <morphis> so it's what we have as winId
Sep 17 14:04:39 <morphis> they have a launchingAppId too
Sep 17 14:23:35 <Garfonso> one problem on legacy was the browser.. only one browser window would go to a stack, all launched after wards would open on their own (i.e. on no stacks at all). Not sure if that is somehow related to what you talk about ;)
Sep 17 16:09:34 <Tofe> Garfonso: yes, we're talking about cards launched from another card in general
Sep 17 16:13:02 <Garfonso> yeah, just thought that maybe legacy hadn't solved the issue you were discussing at all.
Sep 17 16:15:24 <richip> morphis: Didn't seem to be any issues with flashing the recovery:
Sep 17 16:15:39 <richip> ./fastboot flash recovery ~richip/Downloads/recovery-clockwork-6.0.4.7-mako.img
Sep 17 16:15:41 <richip> sending 'recovery' (8834 KB)...
Sep 17 16:15:43 <richip> OKAY [  0.283s]
Sep 17 16:15:45 <richip> writing 'recovery'...
Sep 17 16:15:47 <richip> OKAY [  0.500s]
Sep 17 16:15:49 <richip> finished. total time: 0.783s
Sep 17 16:16:34 <ka6sox> morning Tofe Garfonso richip
Sep 17 16:16:38 <Tofe> morphis: in a webapp, we go through our webapp-launcher code just before losing the card information , right
Sep 17 16:16:53 <Garfonso> morning ka6sox :)
Sep 17 16:17:10 <Tofe> morning ka6sox !
Sep 17 16:18:06 <richip> morning ka6sox! Been having an issue loading luneOS on Nexus 4
Sep 17 16:19:43 <richip> Can't seem to get recovery-clockwork to work. I think it flashes correctly but when I do a Recovery, it just says "No command"
Sep 17 16:22:42 <richip> btw .... what's the difference between "recovery" and "touch recovery"?
Sep 17 16:25:44 <Tofe> only the way you interact with it
Sep 17 16:26:12 <richip> Tofe: Thanks. Is it safe to try that instead?
Sep 17 16:26:28 <richip> Intent is to load luneOS of course
Sep 17 16:28:05 <Tofe> oh yes, luneOS won't see the difference anyway
Sep 17 16:29:15 <Tofe> in a recovery you don't have a lot of tools available, so it's just easier to implement a button only GUI
Sep 17 16:30:25 <richip> nm ... I got it.
Sep 17 16:30:34 <richip> When phone was shipped to me, it was already unlocked
Sep 17 16:30:38 <morphis> richip: sorry, I didn't had time yet to answer your mail
Sep 17 16:30:47 <richip> morphis: sokay. Plenty of time :)
Sep 17 16:31:02 <richip> so when phone was unlocked, I couldn't install ClockworkMod
Sep 17 16:31:13 <richip> I had to oem lock it and then oem unlock again
Sep 17 16:31:28 <richip> after doing a flash recovery, it rebooted into ClockworkMod.
Sep 17 16:31:34 <richip> Proceeding with the next step!
Sep 17 16:31:43 <richip> (should that info go into the wiki?)
Sep 17 16:35:14 <Tofe> I think installing recovery is more an android related step, so maybe we could give a link to the helpful article on xda (or wherever most relevant )
Sep 17 16:36:24 <richip> I've flashed the kernel and rootfs and am about to restart from CWM. It's asking prior to reboot "ROM may flash stock recovery on boot. Fix? THIS CAN NOT BE UNDONE" ... Yes or no? What does this mean?
Sep 17 16:36:42 <richip> Tofe: True ... but we do have a guide that includes that step in http://webos-ports.org/wiki/Install_LuneOS_for_Mako
Sep 17 16:37:00 <richip> so perhaps adding a side note might save some people time
Sep 17 16:37:55 <richip> or, you're right, reference the more complete documentation
Sep 17 16:58:47 <richip> Alright ... it seems as if I can now flash the device with a rootfs and a kernel (I flashed the latest stable). But now when it tries to boot, it doesn't seem to go through
Sep 17 16:59:07 <richip> I'll get the Google logo and for about a minute, nothing happens. Then it seems to restart itself
Sep 17 17:00:53 <richip> Oh crap. Missed the Android 4.2.2 requirement (I believe it was on 4.4.4 when I got it)
Sep 17 17:08:19 <richip> Okay. Redoing. Flashing android 4.2.2 first then will retry luneOS
Sep 17 17:21:28 <richip> Alright. LuneOS installed. Thanks all!
Sep 17 17:22:37 <morphis> richip: yeah!
Sep 17 17:22:57 <morphis> richip: how much do you know about the messaging internals in webOS?
Sep 17 18:37:09 <Herrie> Tofe: Have you seen a nice implementation of a on/off toggle button in QML we could piggyback on? My idea of a rectangle with 2 mouseareas (left and right) and images would be not at all that nice I'm sure, though it could work :P
Sep 17 18:38:28 <Tofe> I think the way to go would be a Control.CheckButton with styling, but I never saw one like you described
Sep 17 18:38:43 <Tofe> maybe KDE tried
Sep 17 18:38:55 <Tofe> or Tizen
Sep 17 18:51:40 <Herrie> Tofe: I mean something liek this: https://enyojs.atlassian.net/secure/thumbnail/10401/_thumb_10401.png
Sep 17 19:02:22 <ka6sox> is Plazma still Active?
Sep 17 19:02:29 <Tofe> Herrie: yeah, me too
Sep 17 19:03:48 <Tofe> ka6sox: yes, we hear news about it, here and there
Sep 17 19:04:58 <Tofe> ka6sox: http://www.kde.org/announcements/plasma5.0/
Sep 17 19:11:30 <ka6sox> so unlike Tizen its not quite a Zombie.
Sep 17 19:34:26 <morphis> Tofe, Herrie: I think the titzen qtquickcontrol style has something like this
Sep 17 19:34:27 <morphis> Tofe, Herrie: https://github.com/nemomobile/qtquickcontrols-nemo/blob/master/src/styles/CheckBoxStyle.qml
Sep 17 19:36:40 <Tofe> ka6sox: you're too harsh, Tizen isn't a zombie, it's just vapor.
Sep 17 19:38:26 <Tofe> morphis, Herrie: yes, in the glacier UI we can see the checkboxes they did: http://play.qwazix.com/grog/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/SystemUI.png (look under the Display/Brightness)
Sep 17 19:40:13 <Tofe> mmh not sure it corresponds... the link morphis gave contains no round border... But anyway it should be fairly easy to adapt to our needs.
Sep 17 19:44:47 <ka6sox> Tofe, touche
Sep 17 20:15:10 <Tofe> morphis: you can re-review the PR for the luna-next notifications ? I've added back the sql database support
Sep 17 20:16:34 <Tofe> I've tested it on the emulator, works fine for me
Sep 17 20:21:06 <morphis> Tofe: let me look
Sep 17 20:21:58 <morphis> Tofe: btw. we should really start to put those styles into our qtquickcontrols-luneos repo
Sep 17 20:23:11 <morphis> Tofe: merged
Sep 17 20:47:53 <Tofe> morphis: thx
Sep 17 20:48:15 <Tofe> Yes, we have to regroup the styling work done so far
Sep 17 20:48:34 <morphis> Tofe: another todo item for you? :)
Sep 17 20:48:35 <Tofe> it's bad enough we have both css and qml styles, so let's just keep them regrouped :)
Sep 17 20:48:46 <Tofe> I think so yes!
Sep 17 20:49:12 <morphis> Tofe: qtquickcontrols-luneos already has the basics
Sep 17 20:49:39 <morphis> I can add it to the build on friday so we can start to populate it with actual styles
Sep 17 20:49:48 <Tofe> morphis: do I have write rights on that one ?
Sep 17 20:50:00 <morphis> I hope so
Sep 17 20:50:38 <Tofe> okay, I'll put that in parallel to storing launcher's state into db8
Sep 17 20:50:50 <Tofe> now, time for bed
Sep 17 20:50:52 <Tofe> gn8!
Sep 17 20:51:24 <morphis> Tofe: you have access now
Sep 17 20:51:25 <morphis> Tofe: gn8
Sep 17 20:58:41 <OldDroid> yey morphis, thanks for expanding the tuto :)
Sep 17 20:59:14 <OldDroid> i will start on friday night if everything goes well with my exams
Sep 17 21:06:01 <OldDroid> morphis: btw, checked out luneos on n4 already
Sep 17 21:06:16 <OldDroid> seems to be that most things can be overtaken from the device layer!
Sep 17 21:11:34 <OldDroid> od out ;-)
Sep 17 22:11:36 <Aressel> Hello
Sep 18 02:20:20 <wappmanb> hello
Sep 18 02:20:24 <wappmanb> anyone here?
Sep 18 02:21:08 <wappmanb> I have a question about LuneOs install
Sep 18 02:32:15 <ka6sox> wappmanb, I'm here, what install are you doing?
Sep 18 02:34:18 <wappmanb> I just installed LuneOs on the Nexus 4
Sep 18 02:34:40 <wappmanb> I had a question about the install because I was not sure that it was finished
Sep 18 02:35:09 <wappmanb> I waited, maybe 10 minutes and went ahead and rebooted...
Sep 18 02:35:19 <wappmanb> and it booted to LuneOS!
Sep 18 02:35:45 <wappmanb> but now I have a question about wifi...
Sep 18 02:36:14 <wappmanb> I see the network but I have been unable to connect to it.
Sep 18 02:37:16 <Alan_Morford> wappmanb: reboot
Sep 18 02:37:24 <Alan_Morford> It's a known glitch in LuneOS
Sep 18 02:37:33 <Alan_Morford> wifi doesn't work on first boot
Sep 18 02:37:48 <wappmanb> oh ok let me do that.
Sep 18 02:38:24 <wappmanb> do I do the device restart or the luna-next restart?
Sep 18 02:38:53 <Alan_Morford> device
Sep 18 02:40:47 <wappmanb> hmmm it did not like that ....
Sep 18 02:41:04 <wappmanb> it looks like the screen is still on but nothing is happening
Sep 18 02:41:33 <Alan_Morford> which build did you install?
Sep 18 02:42:06 <wappmanb> webos-ports-dev-package-mako
Sep 18 02:42:33 <Alan_Morford> ok
Sep 18 02:42:59 <wappmanb> I held the power button and now the google screen and the luneOs screen came up
Sep 18 02:43:04 <wappmanb> fast reboot
Sep 18 02:43:22 <Alan_Morford> Getting faster all of the time
Sep 18 02:44:01 <wappmanb> hmmmm... still does not like my wifi password
Sep 18 02:44:21 <wappmanb> it just shows the connecting screen
Sep 18 02:56:28 <ka6sox> wappmanb, sorry got called away with family here...
Sep 18 02:56:42 <ka6sox> what authenticationmethod?
Sep 18 02:58:39 <wappmanb> wep
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