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Sep 29 03:35:21 <DougReeder> Oi, looks like you need VirtualBox 4.3, in order for the Guest Additions to properly install on Ubuntu 12
Sep 29 05:07:21 <Garfonso> morning
Sep 29 05:07:35 <Garfonso> thrrgilag: hopefully it will be the N5 port. ^^
Sep 29 06:02:33 <ka6sox> evening DougReeder
Sep 29 06:02:36 <ka6sox> Morning Garfonso
Sep 29 06:02:55 <ka6sox> richip, how are you doing with learning the messaging app?
Sep 29 06:42:26 <Herrie|Veer> morning
Sep 29 06:42:42 <Herrie|Veer> Garfonso: Saw my issue in issue tracker?
Sep 29 06:49:21 <Garfonso> morning Herrie|Veer
Sep 29 06:49:24 <Garfonso> no, which one?
Sep 29 06:50:10 <Herrie|Veer> 659
Sep 29 06:50:33 <Herrie|Veer> A bit of an odd one because the JSON file exists and is valid according to JSONlint.com
Sep 29 06:50:41 <Garfonso> uhm.. what makes you think I could be of help there? ;)
Sep 29 06:50:58 <Herrie|Veer> You're the Preware guru :P
Sep 29 06:51:06 <Herrie|Veer> 653 I noticed as well....
Sep 29 06:51:16 <Herrie|Veer> Can replicate it on N4
Sep 29 06:51:46 <Garfonso> can you send me the ipk?
Sep 29 06:51:47 <Herrie|Veer> Sometimes doesn't show IPK at all, could be it's still loading/indexing them
Sep 29 06:52:09 <Garfonso> but it seems to be more a app manager issue or something.. beyond Preware. ;)
Sep 29 06:52:58 <Herrie|Veer> Ah :P Well I'm not familiar with install process :P
Sep 29 06:53:10 <Herrie|Veer> Could be appmgr needs more permissions somehow?
Sep 29 06:53:43 <Garfonso> I'll play a bit with it.
Sep 29 06:53:59 <Herrie|Veer> If you need the IPK let me know :P
Sep 29 06:54:14 <Garfonso> yes, I saw ipk listing popping up after a short delay.. that's not really what I wanted it to do.
Sep 29 06:54:46 <Garfonso> Herrie|Veer: yes, please send me the ipk.
Sep 29 06:58:17 <Herrie|Veer> OK sent :)
Sep 29 06:59:16 <ka6sox> I know the way the OLD Preware worked to do installs
Sep 29 07:09:46 <Herrie|Veer> That might help :P Just check the issue it's odd because the file exists and it's a valid json so not sure why we get the error...
Sep 29 07:10:16 <ka6sox> okay
Sep 29 07:10:26 <ka6sox> is this 653 or 659?
Sep 29 07:10:48 <Herrie|Veer> 659
Sep 29 14:16:04 <Herrie|Veer> thrrgilag: ping
Sep 29 14:59:11 <thrrgilag> Herrie: pong
Sep 29 14:59:41 <Herrie|Veer> Seems your changes break stuff on the N4 worse :P
Sep 29 14:59:48 <thrrgilag> figures
Sep 29 15:00:08 <Herrie|Veer> Will rework stuff a bit and test on both TP and N4 based on some of your changes :)
Sep 29 15:00:40 <Herrie|Veer> Got quite some other stuff done now as well (editing/adding bookmarks), adding to launcher, url bar missery etc :P
Sep 29 15:00:47 <thrrgilag> cool thx
Sep 29 15:00:53 <Herrie|Veer> Will test all on both devices and push changes :)
Sep 29 15:01:10 <Herrie|Veer> Also started splitting components into separate files :)
Sep 29 15:01:18 <thrrgilag> Should I kill my PR?
Sep 29 15:01:19 <Herrie|Veer> So files are less cluttered ;)
Sep 29 15:01:33 <Herrie|Veer> You can leave it for now, will let you know later :P
Sep 29 15:01:42 <thrrgilag> okay
Sep 29 15:03:19 <thrrgilag> in the meantime i may stuck my hands into a few other things, and continue my effort on figuring out how to get the nexus 5 port (as time permits of course)
Sep 29 15:08:37 <thrrgilag> Herrie: is the position of the dialog being thrown off on the N4? The math there may be wrong because of device orientation.
Sep 29 15:09:42 <Herrie|Veer> It seems to disappear completely for some reason. I have some other dialogs with similar issues so will find a solution ;)
Sep 29 15:14:30 <thrrgilag> Yeah the orientation then
Sep 29 15:15:38 <thrrgilag> for the height of the background I put keyboardHeight - parent.height, for the N4 it should be the other way around
Sep 29 15:16:01 <thrrgilag> With the TP being landscape the values of height and width are flipped in Qt
Sep 29 15:16:18 <Herrie|Veer> Ah :)
Sep 29 15:16:30 <Herrie|Veer> OK will work something out for that
Sep 29 15:16:58 <Herrie|Veer> Just Units.gu looks funny on desktop, ok on N4 so need to check on TP too :s
Sep 29 15:17:06 <Herrie|Veer> Some are OK others are odd :P
Sep 29 15:17:29 <thrrgilag> Yeah, I was doing a lot of trial and error
Sep 29 15:17:58 <thrrgilag> Since I don't have a phone device to test on I knew stuff wasn't going to line up there
Sep 29 15:18:55 <Herrie|Veer> Same here lots of trial and error but getting there eventually :)
Sep 29 16:57:30 <DougReeder> I think I had an account for the webos-prts wiki, but can’t find my login details.  Is there to check if there’s an an account for a given email addr?
Sep 29 16:58:02 <ka6sox> would your account be under Dougreeder?
Sep 29 16:58:05 <ka6sox> or something else?
Sep 29 17:01:43 <DougReeder> That’s most likely
Sep 29 17:02:03 <DougReeder> … but when I try to log in under that name, it says there’s no such account
Sep 29 17:02:49 <DougReeder> When I click on “Forgotten you login details” I get the error You do not have permission to <action-passwordreset>, for the following reason:
Sep 29 17:02:49 <DougReeder> The action you have requested is limited to users in the group: Administrators.
Sep 29 17:26:48 <ka6sox> DougReeder, I find no account with that name
Sep 29 17:26:59 <ka6sox> please sign up again and I'll promote you.
Sep 29 17:27:04 <DougReeder> Okay, I’ll create it
Sep 29 17:27:09 <ka6sox> thanks.
Sep 29 17:29:26 <DougReeder> Created.
Sep 29 17:31:33 <richip> ka6sox: Poorly, am afraid. I can't seem to get any pointers to how I would go about getting it built (if required) and deployed. So far, I've installed palm-novacom and palm-sdk installed on my machine because somebody mentioned that's one of the ways to deploy it. Still figuring out if need to compile anything or if it's just a matter of building an ipk
Sep 29 17:32:05 <ka6sox> DougReeder, can you give me the exact username (including any capitalizations)
Sep 29 17:32:16 <DougReeder> DougReeder
Sep 29 17:32:25 <DougReeder> :-)
Sep 29 17:32:36 <ka6sox> richip, at this time I don't believe that Novacom is supported…so to side load takes adb
Sep 29 17:32:55 <Herrie> ka6sox: Yes, but you can use Preware to install an IPK for example ;)
Sep 29 17:32:59 <richip> adb requires ipk, correct?
Sep 29 17:33:04 <Herrie> Either locally or on remote URL ;)
Sep 29 17:33:18 <richip> Any refs to docs for that, at least?
Sep 29 17:33:19 <ka6sox> richip, I'd use the method that Herrie is saying
Sep 29 17:33:30 <richip> Okay .. Preware it is
Sep 29 17:34:02 <richip> same method for emulator as well as N4, I presume
Sep 29 17:34:13 <richip> Will try to learn it on the emulator first. Seems faster
Sep 29 17:34:19 <DougReeder> You can build the ipk with the webos sdk, and sideload it with adb push com.example.foo_1.0.0_all.ipk /media/internal
Sep 29 17:34:46 <richip> Then first step is getting an ipk built. References to that?
Sep 29 17:35:59 <DougReeder> developer.palm.com
Sep 29 17:36:21 <richip> Thanks. Will check
Sep 29 17:39:07 <richip> going through tutorials, dev'ing an Enyo app, dev'ing a mojo app ... can't seem to find creating an ipk
Sep 29 17:40:22 <richip> found it: https://developer.palm.com/content/resources/develop/building_your_first_app.html
Sep 29 17:42:24 <ka6sox> DougReeder, upgraded...
Sep 29 17:42:28 <ka6sox> try to edit/create?
Sep 29 17:43:06 <DougReeder> Thank you. I thought I’d add the minimum VM spect to the build instructions.
Sep 29 17:43:21 <DougReeder> Right now, I’m making sure I’m editing the correct template.
Sep 29 17:43:28 <ka6sox> kk
Sep 29 17:48:04 <DougReeder> Should I say anything about “desktop” vs. “server”  versions of Ubuntu?
Sep 29 17:52:29 <ka6sox> up to you.
Sep 29 17:53:07 * DougReeder smiles “Since I don’t know what to say, I won’t say anything"
Sep 29 17:53:29 <ka6sox> DougReeder, correct
Sep 29 17:54:13 <juristi> Hello! Planned to install the latest nightly image (20140928-testing-0-25) on Touchpad.
Sep 29 17:54:21 <juristi> But is it still the bootlooping one?
Sep 29 17:56:27 <Herrie> juristi: Latestshould be OK
Sep 29 17:56:48 <Herrie> Installed it on mine
Sep 29 17:56:52 <juristi> Thanks. :)
Sep 29 17:56:56 <Herrie> uImage + Rootfs
Sep 29 17:57:03 <juristi> Will do the same
Sep 29 18:13:40 <DougReeder> ERROR: Fetcher failure: Unable to find file file://4f/sstate:qtwayland:armv7a-vfp-neon-webos-linux-gnueabi:5.2.1+gitAUTOINC+69ce77c746:r0:armv7a-vfp-neon:3:4f3c5588f0849323c5a2e93a646c7e79_populate_sysroot.tgz anywhere. The paths that were searched were:
Sep 29 18:13:40 <DougReeder>     /home/doug/luneos/webos-ports-env/webos-ports/sstate-cache
Sep 29 18:14:04 <DougReeder> … got that while building. What’s the next step?
Sep 29 18:15:51 <juristi> DougReeder: Try to run the build again?
Sep 29 18:16:20 <juristi> I usually get 4 or 5 of those on the first try, but they are gone during the rerun.
Sep 29 18:16:39 <juristi> And at least qemux86 has booted up afterwards.
Sep 29 18:16:55 <DougReeder> Huh, that’s…. not the obvious approach.
Sep 29 18:17:23 <juristi> :D
Sep 29 18:18:39 <DougReeder> The engineer in my asks “Is QA signing off on this before we release it?”
Sep 29 18:19:27 <Herrie> DougReeder: For sure things could use some polishing, but please note we don't have the 250+ devs that HP/Palm had ;)
Sep 29 18:19:46 <juristi> Yet ;)
Sep 29 18:20:22 <DougReeder> I know, I just don’t like working without a net - or dealing with regressions.
Sep 29 18:20:58 <DougReeder> Is there a test suite I can run after the build to verify that everything works, that’s supposed to?
Sep 29 18:21:12 <juristi> I kind of dismissed those errors as network problems. My build env is in a virtualbox on a host with restrictive firewall/proxy combo...
Sep 29 18:21:35 <juristi> That interests me as well.
Sep 29 18:21:59 <Herrie> morphis should be able to tell you, but when build finishes without errors you should be OK in general
Sep 29 18:23:34 <DougReeder> Now I get:
Sep 29 18:23:34 <DougReeder> ERROR: Function failed: do_deploy (log file is located at /home/doug/luneos/webos-ports-env/webos-ports/tmp-eglibc/work/tenderloin-webos-linux-gnueabi/webos-ports-dev-package/1.0+gitrAUTOINC+cee2ff7dc1-r0/temp/log.do_deploy.24275)
Sep 29 18:23:36 <DougReeder> ERROR: Logfile of failure stored in: /home/doug/luneos/webos-ports-env/webos-ports/tmp-eglibc/work/tenderloin-webos-linux-gnueabi/webos-ports-dev-package/1.0+gitrAUTOINC+cee2ff7dc1-r0/temp/log.do_deploy.24275
Sep 29 18:23:37 <DougReeder> Log data follows:
Sep 29 18:23:39 <DougReeder> | DEBUG: Executing shell function do_deploy
Sep 29 18:23:40 <DougReeder> | ERROR: Required kernel image is not available as fastboot image!
Sep 29 18:23:42 <DougReeder> | WARNING: /home/doug/luneos/webos-ports-env/webos-ports/tmp-eglibc/work/tenderloin-webos-linux-gnueabi/webos-ports-dev-package/1.0+gitrAUTOINC+cee2ff7dc1-r0/temp/run.do_deploy.24275:1 exit 1 from
Sep 29 18:23:43 <DougReeder> |   exit 1
Sep 29 18:23:45 <DougReeder> | ERROR: Function failed: do_deploy (log file is located at /home/doug/luneos/webos-ports-env/webos-ports/tmp-eglibc/work/tenderloin-webos-linux-gnueabi/webos-ports-dev-package/1.0+gitrAUTOINC+cee2ff7dc1-r0/temp/log.do_deploy.24275)
Sep 29 18:23:46 <DougReeder> ERROR: Task 10 (/home/doug/luneos/webos-ports-env/webos-ports/meta-webos-ports/recipes-core/images/webos-ports-dev-package.bb, do_deploy) failed with exit code '1'
Sep 29 18:23:47 <DougReeder> NOTE: Tasks Summary: Attempted 5296 tasks of which 5295 didn't need to be rerun and 1 failed.
Sep 29 18:23:49 <DougReeder> N
Sep 29 18:24:04 <Herrie> Touchpad is a tricky one...
Sep 29 18:24:17 <Herrie> I think kernel was built outside of regular build process...
Sep 29 18:28:24 <Herrie> Due to problems with make or qmake version I think
Sep 29 18:28:52 <nizovn> DougReeder: try to build webos-ports-dev-image, not package. it seems Garfonso overdid that a little;)
Sep 29 18:30:43 <GodGinrai> DougReeder: next time, use a pastebin like bpaste.net, gist.github.com, sprunge.us, or ix.io
Sep 29 18:31:16 * DougReeder nods
Sep 29 18:35:18 <DougReeder> ok, all tasks succeeded
Sep 29 18:40:33 <Herrie> :D
Sep 29 18:43:37 <DougReeder> So, for a TP, the file Icopy to the device, is a .tar.gz, but for other platforms, it’s a .zip?
Sep 29 18:43:52 <Herrie> Yup
Sep 29 18:44:02 <Herrie> Other devices use CWM to install the ZIP
Sep 29 18:44:17 <Herrie> For TP we have separate instructions at: http://webos-ports.org/wiki/Template:Tenderloin_Install_Steps
Sep 29 18:44:57 <Herrie> These should be OK to follow. I use them myself all the time, for sure could some more clarifications, but if you follow to the letter should be OK
Sep 29 18:45:13 <Herrie> Upgrading easiest by copying .tar.gz in webOS and running commands there
Sep 29 18:45:20 <Herrie> Under Reinstalling the image
Sep 29 18:45:26 <Herrie> That's what you can use for upgrades
Sep 29 18:48:33 * DougReeder nods
Sep 29 18:59:55 <Herrie> I
Sep 29 19:00:08 <Herrie> I'll probably push a tons of browser fixes in the next day or 2 ;)
Sep 29 19:53:49 <DougReeder> Whew! The wiki templates for the build page now give correct commands and files for the TP.
Sep 29 20:36:47 <ka6sox> DougReeder, \o/ thanks
Sep 29 20:37:43 <DougReeder> You’re welcome - hopefully the next guy will have it a bit easier, and there will be a few fewer FAQs here.
Sep 29 20:40:26 <ka6sox> ya, one thing that rapid development does is keep the documentation a bit behind.
Sep 29 20:40:38 <ka6sox> (also having a very small team who need to stay focused)
Sep 29 20:40:43 <ka6sox> so this is very appreciated.
Sep 29 20:41:49 <DougReeder> It’s a shame open source doesn’t attract more technical editors.
Sep 29 20:56:14 <ka6sox> DougReeder, unfortunately they are trying to find work :(
Sep 29 21:10:40 <Garfonso> MoboReader also suffers from screen size issue. :(
Sep 29 21:18:12 <Garfonso> Also it seems canvas is not hardware accelerated?
Sep 29 23:44:19 <DougReeder> Oh, what’s the easiest way to get the built image off the virtual machine and onto the host?
Sep 29 23:44:34 <DougReeder> Setup a shared directory in the VM?
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