**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Oct 01 03:00:00 2014 Oct 01 04:23:33 What does “daisy” refer to, as in “updating to webOS-ports/daisy-2014-09-03” Oct 01 04:33:58 OE release name Oct 01 04:34:16 https://wiki.yoctoproject.org/wiki/Releases Oct 01 04:36:47 Ah, thanks; that’s good to know. Oct 01 04:37:58 Dang, I’m always closing the wrong window. Oct 01 04:38:51 he he Oct 01 04:42:00 They say “when one door closes, another opens”. I don’t think they’re referring to computers, and that’s probably a good thing. Oct 01 04:55:44 yup..probably not Oct 01 05:35:13 Oh, dear, I just unpacked webos-ports-dev-image-tenderloin.tar.gz into the root dir of my TP. Is that a recoverable error? Oct 01 05:36:10 This would be why the root fs is not normally writable Oct 01 05:42:12 its mostly not writable because of wanting to make it secure as well as somewhat * proof (name your poison) Oct 01 05:42:13 ka6sox/morphis: Got a "virgin" TP here, how can I test the new partition layout (that replaced the ext3fs one) / Oct 01 05:42:41 Herrie, add a new partition with Tailor called luneos-root Oct 01 05:43:15 make it big enough for a full LuneOS Rootfs to be deployed in there. Oct 01 05:44:04 OK :) Oct 01 05:44:21 Do we want to update the instructions on the wiki to reflect this in general? Oct 01 05:44:42 I.e. this would be our prefered way? We can still refer to ext3fs as well Oct 01 05:44:55 the patch allows for both Oct 01 05:45:06 So basically I should replace ext3fs in each step by luneos-root and I should be OK? Oct 01 05:45:33 jcsullins, asked that we consider making a new partition as we already use ext3fs for other things already. Oct 01 05:45:51 (chroots, optware etc.) Oct 01 05:46:09 yes Oct 01 05:46:18 that is going to be the preferred way Oct 01 06:08:09 What type should I choose in Tailor? Got Android (system), (cache), (data) or ext3fs Oct 01 06:23:16 Herrie, how familiar are you with LVM? Oct 01 06:25:58 morning Oct 01 06:26:22 morning Garfonso Oct 01 06:37:21 ka6sox: not that much :P Oct 01 06:53:00 you could create a android data partition and lvrename Oct 01 06:59:10 ok Oct 01 07:08:23 nite all Oct 01 07:23:49 hm. why not ext3 ? Oct 01 07:31:06 Morning ! Oct 01 07:32:20 Tofe: morning Oct 01 08:05:11 morning Oct 01 08:08:25 Garfonso: The way I understood ext3fs is interfering with Optware and also CM11? Oct 01 08:14:00 ext3 is just the filesystem type. Not sure what you can choose in tailor. But if you can create a lvm partition with name luneos-root and filesystem type ext3, then this is the right thing Oct 01 08:15:35 it was a very poor decision in the beginning to name that thing ext3fs, because it just leads to a lot of confusion (also there are a lot of ext3 partitions on webOS systems already). Oct 01 08:16:18 Ah :P Oct 01 08:18:23 So we just need to rename it if it is already there, isn't it Oct 01 08:21:45 if you don't use it for optware or chroots in webos, then yes. :) Oct 01 08:21:52 At least that is how I understood it. Oct 01 08:24:53 my webos on TP is quite vanilla, except for LunaCE ;) Oct 01 08:26:53 Same for me :P Only LunaCE no fancy stuff Oct 01 08:27:59 The link to moboot is dead Oct 01 08:29:04 https://goo.im/devs/jcsullins/cmtouchpad/testing/moboot_038-tenderloin.zip/ this one works, but is a bit... Oct 01 08:30:30 I have another one on android file host Oct 01 08:30:34 Will add it Oct 01 08:40:13 I play with a plain TP and see what I need to get LuneOS and optware/chroot working. Oct 01 08:43:15 ok can you get the instructions updated then? Since I'm useless with *nix stuff in general :P Oct 01 08:49:13 yes, that was my goal. :) Oct 01 09:35:13 hm.. let's see if I broke my TP. ;) Oct 01 10:49:04 Hey, the ext3fs -> luneos-root change is great news! Clears setup quite a lot :) Oct 01 11:39:01 rewrote setup instructions a bit: http://webos-ports.org/wiki/Template:Tenderloin_Install_Steps#Preparing_your_device_.26_installation_instructions Oct 01 11:39:07 comments requested. :) Oct 01 11:51:49 Garfonso: what partition type is an "android" partition ? ext4 ? Oct 01 11:52:11 ext3 Oct 01 11:52:23 at least that is what Tailor created. :) Oct 01 11:53:25 maybe we should just improve tailor to create a luneos-root partition? Oct 01 11:53:50 That could be a good idea, actually Oct 01 11:54:14 or simply ask the wanted partition label to the user :) Oct 01 12:09:18 The new instructions sound a bit complicated, if there already is an android partition. What's the difference between extfs and android-data in Tailor? Oct 01 12:09:51 Just wondering if it would be more straightforward to still instruct creating the ext3fs and just renaming that. Oct 01 12:12:57 The Tailor asking for label solution would clearly be the best, though. Oct 01 12:41:03 Hmm. Tailor protects the more sensitive parts of the system by having a hard coded list of allowed partition settings. Oct 01 12:41:47 Should not be too difficult to just add luneos to the list. But free labeling would require a bit bigger overhaul. Oct 01 12:51:11 I tried adding it but somehow now tailor refuses to run on my TP at all. ;) Oct 01 12:51:31 juristi: the issue was that some people already had ext3fs in use for other stuff.. then you can't just rename it. Oct 01 12:52:11 Ok. So it's about lesser of the two evils then. Oct 01 12:54:33 if you don't use ext3fs at all the easiest thing is to just stay with ext3fs ;) Oct 01 12:54:45 Did you get any error message from the modified Tailor? Oct 01 12:55:33 it complains about "exec" not being defined... that is used in the node service. I added some console output to prologue.js and that ... for whatever reason... does not get processed at all. Oct 01 12:55:41 I'm a bit puzzled about that right now. Oct 01 12:55:42 I'll rename the partition anyway. It's much clearer that way :) Oct 01 12:56:28 yes, I think so, too. :) Oct 01 12:58:22 Hmm. Might take a look at Tailor as well at some point, if I can find a free moment before somebody more skilled has fixed it. Oct 01 12:59:02 service behaves better now.. seems I just had to reboot TP. Oct 01 13:00:00 Great :) Oct 01 13:04:03 ok, looks good. created luneos-root partition for me. :) Oct 01 13:04:23 Even better :) Oct 01 13:06:03 now just to find out how to update this in the feeds... Oct 01 13:09:56 You mean new app? Oct 01 13:10:03 +version? Oct 01 13:10:12 yes, update for tailor Oct 01 13:10:16 ka6sox can help with that :) Oct 01 13:10:51 or Rod ;) Oct 01 13:11:06 But I think ka6sox has all the powers for this too Oct 01 13:41:12 juristi, do you want to *add* a new partition name called luneos-root? Oct 01 13:41:51 if so then please clone Tailor and issue a PR against it when you have completed your testing. Oct 01 13:42:14 yes, its a hardcoded list Oct 01 13:43:06 https://github.com/rwhitby/tailor/pull/2 if anybody can have a look at it, ka6sox or rod Oct 01 13:46:08 Garfonso, on the first file could you mod the change slightly? Oct 01 13:46:23 for conformity with the rest of the naming in that file: LuneOS (root) Oct 01 13:46:42 similar to Android (system) Oct 01 13:46:53 the rest looks right Oct 01 13:47:44 in: app/assistants/main-assistant.js Oct 01 13:50:41 done Oct 01 13:53:16 I guess we need an updated appinfo.json with version number increase, someone should create a release in GitHub as well. Not sure how it'll end up in Preware feed? Oct 01 13:54:03 Herrie|Veer, the auto builder will build it, and it will be a new release Oct 01 13:55:05 I increased version number and also added to changelog, so should be fine. Oct 01 13:55:27 needs bump here and explanation in change log: https://github.com/webos-internals/build/blob/master/apps/tailor/Makefile Oct 01 13:56:00 rwhitby will have to accept the PR for Tailor…I'll Ack it. Oct 01 13:56:29 this was for build.git? Oct 01 13:57:46 Garfonso, you will need to do build.git as well so the auto builder will stuff it in the feed. Oct 01 14:06:25 Garfonso, thanks for tackling this… we need this to avoid confustion. Oct 01 14:20:30 ka6sox: not sure I understood your last comments. I need to update that file in https://github.com/webos-internals/build/blob/master/apps/tailor/Makefile, too? Or something else? Oct 01 14:20:56 and I recognized that this is confusing, when I tried to write an explanation how to create the partition. :) Oct 01 14:21:33 Garfonso, you need to update the build.git makefile for Tailor so the auto builder picks it up and rebuilds it for the feeds. Oct 01 14:22:29 and that is the file you linked? :) Oct 01 14:22:35 yes Oct 01 14:22:40 ok. Oct 01 14:23:05 then issue a PR for that, once rwhitby pulls in your tailor changes then I'll pull that one in. Oct 01 14:29:40 https://github.com/webos-internals/build/pull/36 that's the PR. Oct 01 14:29:57 not sure if I missed something, though. Oct 01 14:47:17 hm.. just recognized that I probably forced moboot to boot LuneOS everytime. How do I mount the partition that is /boot in webOS? Oct 01 15:01:57 Tofe: ping Oct 01 15:46:22 Garfonso: ping Oct 01 16:10:59 Herrie: pong Oct 01 16:13:23 Garfonso: btw have you solved your problem? Oct 01 16:13:46 which one? I have plenty of them. :) The boot one? Oct 01 16:14:19 yes Oct 01 16:15:25 through some button presses it somehow did show me the list of available kernels and I could boot webOS again. Oct 01 16:15:46 did not found out how to modify things in boot partition from LuneOS, though. Oct 01 16:16:48 ah, OK. Oct 01 16:39:24 Garfonso: Seems InboxApp has announced some stuff:) https://www.inboxapp.com/blog Oct 01 16:39:34 Might be interesting to look into sometime in future:) Oct 01 16:39:43 $5/month for unlimited connections seems a fair amount Oct 01 16:41:48 They have a HTML5 app as well but think Enyo 2 one would be nicer Oct 01 16:48:13 OK major browser work is done, cleanup done as well, all tested on N4, still need to test a bit on TP Oct 01 16:48:25 Garfonso you have IPK for new Tailor? Oct 01 17:05:25 Garfonso: Nevermind managed to sort it manually it seems :) Oct 01 17:14:38 Tofe: ping Oct 01 17:17:56 Herrie: can create it.. but also command is like palm-package package . node (or similar) in the folder. Oct 01 17:18:37 Already managed it seems, booting LuneOS now Oct 01 17:18:54 Will try to sort my layout issues and push browser work :) YOu'll be happy with it :P Oct 01 17:20:15 Need some help from Tofe, I guess my Units.gu are playing up with images ;) Oct 01 18:46:20 I have a freshly-doctored TP (thanks to a careless slip last night). I can try installing to luneos-root. Is the revised Tailor available via Preware yet? Oct 01 20:06:07 thrrgilag: My testing TP has messed up screen, so cannot really test browser,if you feellike, please try https://github.com/webOS-ports/org.webosports.app.browser/pull/20 Oct 01 20:06:42 I changed the pixels to Units.gu for image height and width, hopefully fixes the issues with the dialogs on TP Oct 01 21:12:39 DougReeder: not, yet. You can get an IPK here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/j6o17c8q9ffqz75/org.webosinternals.tailor_0.3.1_all.ipk?dl=0 :) Oct 01 21:19:51 On launch, I get a toaster with the warning: Service Error (userId): Service dooes not exist: org.webosinternal.tailor.node Oct 01 21:20:08 I installed it with palm-install Oct 01 21:34:19 … and palm-log doesn’t show any additional info, Garfonso Oct 01 21:40:41 Hm... Probably I Me Oct 01 21:41:06 I messed up the ipk it seems. :( Oct 01 21:41:42 Will try to fix that tomorrow. Oct 01 21:47:14 * DougReeder nods Oct 01 21:48:04 If I create the partition with the old Tailor, is there a way to rename it? Oct 01 22:44:06 DougReeder, from the command line on the device you would need to lvrename Oct 02 02:36:59 I think there’s extra junk in /boot, from last night’s accident. Can I delete all the files dated Oct 1? http://pastebin.com/8pjP2b7d **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Oct 02 03:00:00 2014