**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Oct 06 03:00:00 2014 Oct 06 04:21:07 _minego , sorry though she might actually sleep on her own. Oct 06 04:22:13 _minego , do you have a device, or just the Emulator? Oct 06 04:22:22 <_minego> A device Oct 06 04:22:31 <_minego> A TouchPad Oct 06 04:22:37 <_minego> Left it downstairs though :/ Oct 06 04:23:05 I haven’t used the Emulator lately - it’s rather slow. Oct 06 04:23:46 Do you have a testing build on the TP? Oct 06 04:23:54 <_minego> I believe so.. Oct 06 04:24:19 <_minego> The latest daily from oct 2 if I remember right Oct 06 04:24:57 <_minego> http://build.webos-ports.org/luneos-testing/images/tenderloin/webos-ports-image-tenderloin-20141002011056-testing-0-27.rootfs.tar.gz <-- That one Oct 06 04:25:05 Plug in the TP Oct 06 04:25:06 adb forward tcp:1122 tcp:1122 Oct 06 04:25:18 <_minego> It won't connect with adb Oct 06 04:25:27 Then you should be able to connect at http://localhost:1122/ Oct 06 04:25:44 Oh, that’s a problem you need to fix first. :-S Oct 06 04:26:02 <_minego> Wait, there is a dev and a non dev build? Oct 06 04:26:14 Yeah. Oct 06 04:26:24 <_minego> oh! Oct 06 04:26:25 <_minego> I see Oct 06 04:26:28 <_minego> Yeah it is non-dev Oct 06 04:26:29 <_minego> damn Oct 06 04:26:30 <_minego> Okay Oct 06 04:26:53 <_minego> Okay, I'll grab the dev build in the morning and try again Oct 06 04:26:56 <_minego> Now I feel very silly Oct 06 04:27:09 Don’t - the docs are not where they should be. Oct 06 04:27:35 <_minego> Docs are hard for a project like this Oct 06 04:27:55 <_minego> It's a bit of a shame though because it makes it harder for people to help Oct 06 04:28:12 <_minego> But there are lots of people eager to help Oct 06 04:28:19 <_minego> which makes up for a lot Oct 06 04:28:48 <_minego> I'm getting the hang up replacing my install though :) Oct 06 04:29:18 Yeah, some much-needed updates of the install instructions happened recently. Oct 06 04:30:24 <_minego> The install was pretty easy once I doctored old webOS back Oct 06 04:30:38 <_minego> I installed it on my spare TouchPad that was android only Oct 06 04:31:18 <_minego> Hopefully I can get macaw behaving nicely on it tomorrow Oct 06 04:31:42 <_minego> Then if I find any time I'll see if I can make some fixes/improvements to some of the default apps Oct 06 04:31:52 <_minego> Hard to find time though Oct 06 04:32:12 * DougReeder nods Oct 06 04:35:32 Okay, I commented out the reference to webapp-launcher on http://webos-ports.org/wiki/Luna_Next_Remote_WebApplication_Debugging Oct 06 04:35:34 <_minego> It seems kinda silly to have non dev builds at this stage really.. Oct 06 04:35:56 <_minego> Good. That will avoid some confusion in the future for others I'm sure :) Oct 06 04:37:40 Well, someone might test apps from a purely user standpoint. Oct 06 04:37:57 If you’re not the dev, you probaly can’t make use of the log. Oct 06 04:38:09 And performance testing, don’t forget that. Oct 06 04:38:29 <_minego> True Oct 06 04:40:17 Did you find a good Android build to install on your TP? CM never was updated past Android 4.0, IIRC. Oct 06 04:40:46 <_minego> I tried to install a CM11 build that others recommended, but had issues with the partitioning Oct 06 04:41:05 <_minego> I'll have to try to fix it with umm... crap what's that tool called... the webos one Oct 06 04:41:17 <_minego> tailor? Is that the name? Oct 06 04:42:57 <_minego> Worst case I'll start fresh. Oct 06 04:44:52 Tailor, yeah, that handles partitioning for CM and LuneOS. Oct 06 04:45:46 <_minego> TouchPad Toolkit wouldn't setup the partition right... claimed another one used the name or something... I don't have the error in front of me though. Oct 06 04:48:00 Please let me know if you get it working. I see cyanogenmod.eg has a build of CM9 for TP from last September, which would be newer that what I’ve had. Oct 06 04:49:19 <_minego> This was based on CM11. Not an official CM build though. Oct 06 04:49:28 * DougReeder nods Oct 06 05:54:48 morning Oct 06 06:27:29 morning Oct 06 07:35:36 morning Oct 06 08:01:08 morning Oct 06 08:44:14 Tofe: ping Oct 06 08:46:29 Herrie|Veer: pong Oct 06 08:47:07 Already got working internet and a chance to look into browser PR? Oct 06 08:47:53 Have my LNC PR ready soon too to show web icons in case phone app isn't available, just want to test on TP which is now charging :P Oct 06 09:03:46 OK PR for LNC is done too :) Oct 06 09:11:01 Herrie|Veer: not yet :( But I have internet at work, and I can look at PRs here and there Oct 06 09:13:41 OK LNC one is small :) Browser not too big either, mainly some cleanup :P Oct 06 09:13:57 And minor bug fixing of stuff Oct 06 09:14:08 ok Oct 06 09:15:22 merged LNC Oct 06 09:16:04 Do you know if we keep in daisy or move to dizzy for Black Eye? Oct 06 09:18:08 I don't know, but we moved to daisy quite recently, is dizzy already around the corner ? Oct 06 09:18:38 merged browser -- I like component splitting :) Oct 06 09:19:49 Yeah saw it this morning Oct 06 09:20:24 Tofe: Yeah component splitting makes sense :P Makes stuff easier to understand ;) And it's quite easy to do indeed :) Oct 06 09:40:04 The dizzy release date seems to be Oct 31, so quite soon. Oct 06 09:40:54 The hw test automation improvements sound like an interesting enhancement. Oct 06 09:42:50 hm.. where can one see the differences between openembedded releases? Oct 06 09:44:10 At least Yocto has some documentation at https://wiki.yoctoproject.org/wiki/Releases Haven't checked OE so far. Oct 06 09:54:20 I suspect we'll stay with Daisy for Black Eye, but would prefer JaMa|Off or morphis to confirm before I start doing PR's :P Oct 06 11:31:21 Tofe: Ping Oct 06 12:12:16 somebody (or some ppl) been putting in some work on openwebos Oct 06 12:12:20 didn't expect to see that Oct 06 12:12:21 wd Oct 06 12:12:39 In FilePicker.qml (minibrowser sample), there's a reference to: "property QtObject fileModel: model" which gives me a "model not defined". Not sure what I'm doing wrong? Oct 06 12:13:05 link to qml in question? Oct 06 12:13:24 context is always appropriate Oct 06 12:16:40 http://pivotce.com/2014/09/22/webos-ports-help-wanted/ Oct 06 12:16:47 still? Oct 06 12:29:54 still ain’t using qtwebengine for this right? Oct 06 12:30:26 u there? Oct 06 12:30:40 welp Oct 06 13:08:56 mofukka: engine did not change, yet. Oct 06 13:09:06 mofukka: what do you need help with? Oct 06 13:09:23 somebody else asked about a qml thing i was just curious about that Oct 06 13:09:38 and what all is going on in terms of forward progress i been checking out the repos Oct 06 13:18:41 Herrie: pong Oct 06 13:20:34 currently Herrie working on browser is the most active part.. the rest of us is a bit busy with RL things it seems. :-/ Oct 06 13:26:46 yeah, like trying to get a working internet connection at home :) Oct 06 13:27:05 word Oct 06 13:29:02 Sorry internet acting up here too :P Oct 06 13:29:16 Reboot of TP and FreeTether helped :P Oct 06 13:29:24 Tofe see my question above Oct 06 13:30:03 Herrie|Veer: yes; and I'm still looking for that "model" reference Oct 06 13:30:32 looks like it's attached by the C++ wrapping Qt app, but I can't find it yet Oct 06 13:33:13 Ah so it's not me :P Oct 06 13:33:22 Thought I did something wrong :P Oct 06 13:45:09 must be some hidden WebView property Oct 06 13:49:26 That's probably only available in the C++ one because I get that error in QML :s Oct 06 15:26:48 Herrie|Veer: dizzy is used only by luneos-unstable now and it will stay that way for Black Eye Oct 06 15:27:14 OK great :) Thought so already ;) Oct 06 15:27:27 the same for qt5-5.4 Oct 06 15:27:34 Will keep doing my PR's against Daisy then :) Oct 06 15:27:54 which will get to luneos-unstable soon(ish) Oct 06 15:28:11 JaMa|Off: That's understandable because QT 5.4 isn't released as stable yet ;) Oct 06 15:28:25 Curious to see what it brings though :) Oct 06 15:33:02 true, but I've already added recipes for 5.4-alpha in meta-qt5 and morphis wanted to skip 5.3.2 (which is already in luneos-unstable) so alpha is good enough for me to start playing with it in unstable :) Oct 06 15:33:58 :) But we probably need other stuff fixing before an unstable image runs on device? I doubt it will run out of the box? Oct 06 15:35:39 yes, dizzy branch has couple fixes but not all yet Oct 06 15:35:43 * JaMa|Off off to office Oct 07 02:23:48 Ping Oct 07 02:24:12 oh Oct 07 02:24:24 reclaim your Nick please Oct 07 02:24:28 its the wrong one. Oct 07 02:57:44 * DougReeder returns **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Oct 07 03:00:00 2014