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Apr 29 04:14:33 <DougReeder> Garfonso, I’ve pulled your latest, and the issues seem to be fixed!
Apr 29 04:41:06 <DougReeder> Also, Garfonso, the deleteChatthread method works great - I’ve submitted a PR that calls it: https://github.com/webOS-ports/org.webosports.messaging/pull/28
Apr 29 05:23:38 <Garfonso> morning
Apr 29 05:26:00 <ka6sox>  morning Garfonso
Apr 29 05:35:40 <Garfonso> hm.. after some time in standby / sleep I can't wake my N4.
Apr 29 05:35:57 <Garfonso> I can still talk to it via adb. But it won't turn on the display. :-(
Apr 29 05:39:17 <Garfonso> that's the log I get: https://bpaste.net/show/b78d6b50c691 on build 145
Apr 29 05:39:24 <Herrie> Garfonso: I've seen that too. I noticed luna-next-cardshell can get slow
Apr 29 05:39:37 <Herrie> Maybe you can check which process is eating memory cpu?'
Apr 29 05:40:23 <Garfonso> I restarted luna-next already, did not help.
Apr 29 05:43:15 <Herrie> Could be something else in background.. I'm no linux guru maybe ka6sox has some ideas?
Apr 29 05:43:42 <ka6sox> can ADB do a top or ps?
Apr 29 05:43:51 <ka6sox> can you ssh into it?
Apr 29 05:46:15 <Garfonso> you can use adb shell to get some shell... but top always complains that TERM environment variable is not set..
Apr 29 05:46:46 <ka6sox> I install sshd on my devices, and then ssh in, run things like top and ps
Apr 29 05:46:58 <ka6sox> they are low bw and almost always work
Apr 29 05:52:51 <Herrie> top and ps should work via adb shell
Apr 29 05:52:55 <Herrie> Used them before
Apr 29 06:07:43 <Herrie> ps works for sure
Apr 29 06:12:29 <ka6sox> then thats the first thing to finding out what is running and what is consuming cycles
Apr 29 06:12:59 <ka6sox> Herrie, Garfonso has anyone implemented any Power Domains on the CPU?
Apr 29 06:27:23 <morphis> Garfonso, Herrie, ka6sox: looks like something in the display state handling is wrong after suspend
Apr 29 06:27:33 <morphis> also sounds like the CPU is somehow throtteled
Apr 29 06:28:14 <ka6sox> I'm wondering what power domain is active and not throttling back up.
Apr 29 06:28:28 <morphis> not sure
Apr 29 07:33:53 <Herrie|Veer> morning
Apr 29 07:52:15 <Tofe> morning
Apr 29 07:52:23 <Tofe> Herrie|Veer: oh, I forgot to remove the spurious line
Apr 29 07:58:34 <Herrie|Veer> Tofe: morning
Apr 29 08:00:08 <Herrie|Veer> Tofe: fixed that now for you ;)
Apr 29 08:12:08 <Tofe> ok great :)
Apr 29 08:20:16 <Herrie|Veer> Just commented it out and added TODO :P
Apr 29 08:23:39 <Garfonso> created a bug with some log output: http://issues.webos-ports.org/issues/897
Apr 29 08:24:01 <Garfonso> top won't show a lot of activity..
Apr 29 08:24:28 <Garfonso> things are quite dormant here.. but the log output hints to some module failure? Maybe it is just the build I have on the device?
Apr 29 08:26:15 <feniksa|3> morning :-)
Apr 29 08:27:28 <Garfonso> feniksa|3: morning
Apr 29 08:54:27 <morphis> Garfonso: how long exactly is a long idle time?
Apr 29 08:54:38 <Herrie|Veer> Garfonso: I have it being sluggish and not reponding at times too
Apr 29 08:54:50 <Herrie|Veer> Just didn't bother yet to dig into it
Apr 29 08:54:59 <Herrie|Veer> morphis: with me usually after some hrs
Apr 29 08:55:05 <Herrie|Veer> Like when I leave it overnight
Apr 29 08:55:12 <Garfonso> this morning it happened after ~ 2 hours...
Apr 29 08:55:21 <morphis> ok
Apr 29 08:56:10 <Garfonso> the long idle time is necessary.. for a short duration it works fine. :)
Apr 29 08:57:27 <morphis> ok
Apr 29 08:59:00 <Herrie|Veer> morphis: You seen 893? That's a quite serious security flaw :P
Apr 29 09:01:10 <morphis> yeah saw that one
Apr 29 09:01:14 <morphis> hope I can look into that
Apr 29 09:01:26 <morphis> Garfonso: I am currently thinking about allowing updates for testing too
Apr 29 09:01:33 <morphis> but a bit different then we do it for stable
Apr 29 09:01:51 <morphis> might require a little modification to the update service
Apr 29 09:02:17 <morphis> basically we don't have the manifest for testing so we should just run a "opkg update" and check then if we have any upgradable packages
Apr 29 09:02:32 <Garfonso> it would be nice to update testing... I know refrain from updates, sometimes, because I then have to re-authorize MoboReader again. :p
Apr 29 09:02:47 <Garfonso> ok
Apr 29 09:02:59 <morphis> otherwise we could do a jenkins job putting out a auto generated manifest for testing
Apr 29 09:03:03 <morphis> which might be better
Apr 29 09:04:01 <Garfonso> so instead of forbidding updates for testing we would download a manifest from a different URL?
Apr 29 09:04:04 <morphis> Garfonso: so when we're on testing we just have to pull http://build.webos-ports.org/luneos-testing/manifest.json
Apr 29 09:04:09 <morphis> right
Apr 29 09:04:35 <morphis> I can setup a small job incrementing the manifest each time we sync a new nightly
Apr 29 09:04:37 <Garfonso> that would also help people to know if they are on the most recent testing version. :)
Apr 29 09:05:04 <Herrie|Veer> Yeah I'd be in favor of updating as well :)
Apr 29 09:05:28 <Herrie|Veer> I don't have much on my testing device but it would at least allow me to keep some more data ;)
Apr 29 09:05:41 <morphis> yeah
Apr 29 09:05:57 <morphis> and it would allow us to really test the update process in deep
Apr 29 09:06:33 <Garfonso> yes.. I seldom test the update process, tbh.  ;)
Apr 29 09:07:02 <Herrie|Veer> Also true :) We also might want to look into getting Save/Restore working for backing up on current image and restoring info on a newly flashed image :)
Apr 29 09:07:32 <morphis> Herrie|Veer: or even the backup service
Apr 29 09:08:11 <morphis> but save/restore might be the more generic approach
Apr 29 09:11:08 <Herrie|Veer> It's user extendable and can be used for apps too
Apr 29 09:11:16 <morphis> Garfonso: can you extend the service to use the file for testing?
Apr 29 09:12:00 <morphis> why not
Apr 29 09:12:22 <Garfonso> morphis: yes.
Apr 29 09:16:43 <Herrie|Veer> Seems Save/Restore is Mojo only and only on the webos-internals git not on GitHub, so that might need some work
Apr 29 09:18:29 <morphis> Herrie|Veer: looks like the service component is fine for us
Apr 29 09:18:59 <Herrie|Veer> Yeah could be
Apr 29 09:19:07 <Herrie|Veer> Just app might need rewriting
Apr 29 09:19:33 <Herrie|Veer> Can you create a repo in Ports so I can clone/push into that?
Apr 29 09:22:20 <morphis> yeah
Apr 29 09:22:51 <Herrie|Veer> Not sure we want to keep org.webosinternals.saverestore or rename it to webosports?
Apr 29 09:31:28 <feniksa|3> Do someone intresting in documentatoin for db8 API ?
Apr 29 09:31:45 <feniksa|3> Just thinking, maybe it will have sance to write
Apr 29 09:31:47 <feniksa|3> docs
Apr 29 09:32:35 <Herrie|Veer> morphis can you add a readme so I can fork it?
Apr 29 09:36:16 <morphis> Herrie|Veer: https://github.com/webOS-ports/org.webosinternals.saverestore
Apr 29 09:36:27 <morphis> feniksa|3: why not
Apr 29 09:37:19 <Herrie|Veer> morphis: Ah you imported Internals git stuff too already, good :)
Apr 29 09:37:26 <morphis> yeah
Apr 29 09:38:50 <Herrie|Veer> Seems I cannot get some of the legacy c stuff to build on Ubuntu 12.04 so will try 10.04 or 11.04 instead sometime soon. Some of these legacy apps are long overdue an update. While I'll fiddling with them can just as well get to it :)
Apr 29 09:43:31 <Herrie|Veer> morphis: You think something like FreeTether might still work too?
Apr 29 09:44:50 <Herrie|Veer> It seems to rely mainly on standard linux network stuff so I guess it would? http://github.com/RyanHope/freeTether
Apr 29 09:45:11 <Herrie|Veer> The Enyo part would need some work, so probably a rewrite in Enyo 2 for that is quicker
Apr 29 09:49:30 <morphis> Herrie|Veer: yeah might work but conflicts with connman
Apr 29 09:49:38 <morphis> it should directly go through connman now
Apr 29 09:49:54 <Herrie|Veer> morphis: Ah ok
Apr 29 09:51:44 <morphis> it just did tethering over usb?
Apr 29 09:52:25 <Herrie|Veer> No also using wifi and bt I think
Apr 29 09:52:49 <Herrie|Veer> I used it mainly to share cellular data from phone/tp via wifi to other devices :)
Apr 29 10:43:56 <Herrie|Veer> nizovn: ping
Apr 29 12:45:12 <morphis> Herrie|Veer: btw. the PIN unlock screen is a bit too big on the N4
Apr 29 12:52:21 <Herrie|Veer> morphis: It can be a little smaller but in general it's better now then it was. Just in landscape it needs to be a bit smaller.
Apr 29 12:53:31 <Herrie|Veer> I can tweak it a bit though
Apr 29 12:53:59 <Herrie|Veer> Just converted to Units.gu but could be I need to change the divider from 8 to 10
Apr 29 15:29:24 <morphis> JaMa: ping
Apr 29 15:29:55 <JaMa> pong
Apr 29 15:30:48 <morphis> JaMa: I was thinking about enabling updates in LuneOS for the testing tree too
Apr 29 15:31:18 <morphis> so what we need for that is a manifest which is incremented by one version each time we do a rsync for new images
Apr 29 15:31:40 <morphis> do you have time to implement that as part of the jenkins jobs?
Apr 29 15:32:21 <JaMa> you mean staging for testing as well?
Apr 29 15:34:47 <morphis> no, no staging
Apr 29 15:34:55 <morphis> just updating packages from the feed
Apr 29 15:35:05 <morphis> but we need a marker the update service can check for
Apr 29 15:35:17 <morphis> so nobody starts updating when we sync the feeds or similar
Apr 29 15:40:51 <morphis> JaMa: or do you think we should do it differently?
Apr 29 15:46:15 <JaMa> no, sounds reasonable, if we don't mind having the old number while already rsyncing the new one
Apr 29 15:46:35 <JaMa> so someone who is still on 3 can be upgrading to 4 while we rsync 5
Apr 29 15:46:51 <morphis> no that should be fine
Apr 29 15:46:54 <morphis> it's testing
Apr 29 15:48:09 <JaMa> ok, will keep that in mind, but don't know how soon I'll have time
Apr 29 15:48:30 <JaMa> next 4 weekends are already allocated to something
Apr 29 15:48:38 <morphis> :)
Apr 29 15:48:46 <morphis> we need to wait for Garfonso updating the update service too
Apr 29 16:05:35 <nizovn> morning
Apr 29 16:06:44 <nizovn> Herrie|Veer: pong
Apr 29 17:28:52 <Herrie_> nizovn: ping from laptop
Apr 29 17:29:21 <Herrie|Laptop> Just wondering if you have an ETA for the N4 fix, so we know if we can include it in release ;)
Apr 29 17:51:12 <nizovn> Herrie|Laptop: we can at any time just revert luna-service integration. i now doubt if we need it, as not sure it will let to stop sensors when they are not needed. But i need to look deeper into sensorfw code.
Apr 29 18:05:39 <Herrie|Laptop> nizovn: ok, just wondering what we need to get N4 working now, we have a pending PR for QPA and a pending one for Luna-next-cardshell
Apr 29 18:05:47 <Herrie|Laptop> With these it doesn't work yet on N4
Apr 29 18:05:49 <nizovn> morphis: i have to stop development in may and june, as i need to prepare for graduation and for next level(it's very important and i will have no time). But i want to finish sensorfw first.
Apr 29 18:05:51 <Herrie|Laptop> So wonder how to fix that
Apr 29 18:09:09 <nizovn> Herrie|Laptop: stop, those PR's don't work with sensorfw i mailed to you?
Apr 29 18:09:24 <Herrie|Laptop> They do
Apr 29 18:09:31 <Herrie|Laptop> Just not without your sensorfw ;)
Apr 29 18:10:02 <Herrie|Laptop> And that sensorfw you mailed is not PR-ed or merged yet?
Apr 29 18:10:51 <HaDAk> what would it take to target the nexus 5?
Apr 29 18:11:02 <HaDAk> i'm retiring mine from active duty in a couple of weeks. i don't have a nexus 4.
Apr 29 18:11:07 <HaDAk> i'd like to do webos dev on it.
Apr 29 18:12:59 <nizovn> Herrie|Laptop: that fix was merged, but along with luna-service integration. the fix is just one-liner, patch #3
Apr 29 18:14:25 <HaDAk> i know it's kinda against the mantra right now, but i'd at least be useful for real-world testing if we got that going.
Apr 29 18:14:57 <Herrie|Laptop> We have this pending: https://github.com/webOS-ports/qt5-qpa-hwcomposer-plugin/pull/1 and https://github.com/webOS-ports/luna-next-cardshell/pull/201 once those are merged it's OK on TP, but I have the problem with N4 after screen off
Apr 29 18:15:16 <Herrie|Laptop> What we need to do to fix that? When I install your sensorfw all is OK on N4
Apr 29 18:18:02 <nizovn> Herrie|Laptop: well, we can right now disable luna-service integration(for investigation), and it will be what i sent to you.
Apr 29 18:18:10 <Herrie|Laptop> OK
Apr 29 18:18:15 <Herrie|Laptop> Can you do a PR there?
Apr 29 18:18:24 <Herrie|Laptop> So we can test?
Apr 29 18:18:42 <nizovn> yes, 5mins
Apr 29 18:19:08 <Herrie|Laptop> :D
Apr 29 18:26:23 <nizovn> Herrie|Laptop: btw so release will be soon?
Apr 29 18:27:35 <Herrie|Laptop> nizovn: Early month always
Apr 29 18:27:39 <Herrie|Laptop> At least we try
Apr 29 18:27:59 <nizovn> ok
Apr 29 18:38:22 <morphis> nizovn: we disable the ls2 support becuase it breaks things otherwise?
Apr 29 18:38:42 <morphis> can you add a explanation as part of the commit?
Apr 29 18:42:33 <nizovn> morphis: yes, seems i mixed up something, and it not properly react on usb connection. i will try to add note, but don't know how for now. it should be in bb file or in commit message?
Apr 29 18:52:45 <DougReeder> Garfonso, I like your latest chatthreader, but I’ve found another bug: when replying to a message, the thread summary isn’t updated. (non-replies do have the summary updated)
Apr 29 19:16:46 <morphis> HaDAk: some work is needed
Apr 29 19:16:53 <morphis> but nothing I can't get done in a week
Apr 29 19:17:09 <morphis> so would be possible to do that
Apr 29 19:17:13 <HaDAk> that would be perfect.
Apr 29 19:41:11 <morphis> HaDAk: however doing that without a device will be a bit hard
Apr 29 19:41:22 <morphis> and I am not sure if I have time for that
Apr 29 19:41:27 <HaDAk> morphis: i can be your eyes and ears
Apr 29 19:41:34 <morphis> :)
Apr 29 19:41:48 <morphis> lets see if I can quickly wrap something
Apr 29 19:55:37 <nizovn> morphis: let me know if you want something different for sensorfw PR
Apr 29 20:12:37 <Herrie> morphis: Have a change ready local for the lockscreen stuff
Apr 29 20:12:51 <morphis> Herrie: great
Apr 29 20:12:55 <Herrie> Needed to divide by 10 instead of 8, now looks better on N4 also for orientation
Apr 29 20:13:05 <morphis> nizovn: just a comment in the commit message explaing why we disable this
Apr 29 20:13:09 <morphis> :)
Apr 29 20:13:10 <Herrie> Just need some help from Tofe with an image that doesn't cooperate
Apr 29 20:14:00 <Herrie> The delete one to be specific
Apr 29 20:14:04 <Herrie> Let me write up a PR in a bit
Apr 29 20:22:06 <nizovn> morphis: hope done it properly now :) sorry
Apr 29 20:56:06 <Garfonso> DougReeder: I'll look into it.
Apr 29 20:56:15 <DougReeder> Thanks
Apr 29 20:56:44 <Garfonso> so conversations-array is filled with a threadId in the message object?
Apr 29 21:01:29 <DougReeder> Um, I’m not sure, but I can check.
Apr 29 21:07:12 <DougReeder> Garfonso, yes. var message = {_kind: "com.palm.smsmessage:1", conversations: [threadId], folder: "outbox", …
Apr 29 21:08:07 <Herrie> morphis: pr done
Apr 29 21:08:39 <Herrie> DougReeder: http://webos-ports.org/wiki/File:Email-menu-icon-attach-blue.png
Apr 29 21:08:59 <DougReeder> Nice!
Apr 29 21:15:54 <Herrie> It's still low-resolution but should do for now
Apr 29 21:16:49 * DougReeder nods
Apr 29 21:17:40 <DougReeder> I’ll include it in my next PR.
Apr 29 21:41:39 <DougReeder> Before we get too deep in support for hi-res screens, we should figure out what options we have.
Apr 29 21:42:49 <DougReeder> I haven’t been following the standards closely, but we may well just be able to update webkit to a version that supports the new “standard” solution.
Apr 29 21:43:35 <DougReeder> I don’t really notice any difference on hi-res screens at my usual viewing distance.
Apr 29 21:47:13 <DougReeder> Ah, srcset.
Apr 29 21:47:27 <Herrie> DougReeder: You can clearly see the sharpness on recreated vs legacy images on N4
Apr 29 21:48:33 <DougReeder> I know lots of people can see the difference, and we need to support it - I just don’t notice myself.
Apr 29 21:49:04 <DougReeder> Is there a good example I can see on my N4?
Apr 29 21:57:46 <Herrie> Not really most is higher quality now ;)
Apr 29 21:59:34 <Herrie> email and calculator vs contacts icon
Apr 29 21:59:51 <Herrie> Not that clear but email is a lot more blurry compared to contacts
Apr 29 22:00:05 <Herrie> Tweaks is also quite blurry especially the +
Apr 29 22:09:44 <DougReeder> So, the launcher can use any size of icon - we just specify a single hi-res image in appinfo.json, and the launcher scales it down?
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