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Apr 30 04:36:05 <DougReeder> The new attachment icon for Messaging is in the commit I just added to https://github.com/webOS-ports/org.webosports.messaging/pull/28
Apr 30 05:45:47 <Herrie> DougReeder: For the launcher we still use the old icons, however the size is determined based on the Grid Units for that device. Grid Units are used to independently resize images and other QML elements depending on resolution, dpi etc
Apr 30 05:46:00 <Herrie> For TP 10 px = 1 GridUnit
Apr 30 05:46:18 <DougReeder> Ok.
Apr 30 05:47:10 <Herrie> For N4 18px = 1 GridUnit
Apr 30 05:47:38 <Herrie> This is used in QML only but aims to provide a solution regardless of resolution :)
Apr 30 05:47:45 <DougReeder> That’s good
Apr 30 05:47:56 <Herrie> So you get a similar experience on different devices
Apr 30 05:49:11 <Herrie> So for parts from legacy in QML we basically took the px / 10 ;)
Apr 30 05:49:36 <Herrie> https://github.com/webOS-ports/luna-next-cardshell/pull/214/files for example for the pin pad
Apr 30 05:49:48 <Herrie> It was a bit oversized on N4 because I used 8 instead of 10 ;)
Apr 30 05:52:15 <DougReeder> I’ve updated Testr to check support for the srcset attribute of img tags (the new standard for responsive images).
Apr 30 05:53:41 <DougReeder> Unfortunately, our version of webkit does not support the srcset attribute yet, so within apps, we cannot take advantage of higher-DPI screens yet.
Apr 30 06:05:15 <DougReeder> That commit has been added to my other PR for Testr: https://github.com/webOS-ports/org.webosports.app.testr/pull/18
Apr 30 06:30:04 <Tofe> morning
Apr 30 06:30:13 <Tofe> Herrie: sorry, I was away all evening
Apr 30 06:30:17 <Tofe> still need help?
Apr 30 06:42:25 <Herrie> Tofe: Yeah look at my PR
Apr 30 06:42:32 <Herrie> I fixed the QML for lockscreen'
Apr 30 06:42:38 <Herrie> Just the delete image is a bit funny
Apr 30 06:42:49 <Herrie> I cannot get it resized unless it moves to an odd location
Apr 30 06:42:55 <Herrie> This is for the pin pad
Apr 30 06:43:29 <Herrie> This one is the problem: https://github.com/webOS-ports/luna-next-cardshell/blob/master/qml/images/pin/icon-delete.png
Apr 30 07:06:17 <morphis> morning
Apr 30 07:07:35 <Herrie|Veer> morphis: morning
Apr 30 07:11:45 <Garfonso> DougReeder: fixed the issue. https://github.com/webOS-ports/org.webosports.messaging/pull/29
Apr 30 07:11:59 <DougReeder> Great!
Apr 30 07:13:55 <DougReeder> I may have to get a SIM just to test!
Apr 30 07:14:13 <Garfonso> hehe
Apr 30 07:15:48 <DougReeder> Alas, the SIM for my FxOS phone doesn’t fit.
Apr 30 07:16:32 <DougReeder> Herrie, thanks for merging my Testr PR.
Apr 30 07:17:05 <Garfonso> if it's smaller, then there are adapters for that... if it's bigger, it needs some cutting.
Apr 30 07:19:12 <DougReeder> On device, you’ll just see negative results from the Responsive Images tests.  If you run it in a desktop browser, you get interesting results: Chrome & Safari support srcset, but FF doesn’t yet. On my Retina laptop with an older external screen hooked up, the results depend on which screen the window is on!
Apr 30 07:19:12 <morphis> Garfonso: is the PR safe to merge or needs more testing?
Apr 30 07:22:16 <DougReeder> The source code looks good; I can test it now.
Apr 30 07:22:28 <Garfonso> I did test a bit using luna-send. Should be save to merge, not a big change.
Apr 30 07:23:02 <morphis> good
Apr 30 07:24:49 <Herrie|Veer> morphis: LNC pin pad looks proper now, just delete image needs some tlc. I don't get the logics so asked Tofe to have a look
Apr 30 07:24:57 <morphis> ok
Apr 30 07:27:27 <Herrie|Veer> Not sure what we should do with orientation. It seems 95% OK and working well. Just popup in landscape needs a minor fix and vkb needs some tlc other then that it's tested and working as expected on both N4 and TP
Apr 30 07:27:44 <DougReeder> Yup, Garfonso’s PR fixes the bug I saw.
Apr 30 07:28:53 <DougReeder> Herrie, thanks for merging the Messaging PR. The layout was really bugging me. :-)
Apr 30 07:29:15 <Herrie|Veer> Yeah me too LOL :P
Apr 30 07:29:31 <Herrie|Veer> Still don't have working adb on work laptop :'(
Apr 30 07:29:46 <Herrie|Veer> Lame work Win7 image is the culprit I'm sure...
Apr 30 07:30:08 <Herrie|Veer> They have some usb write protection stuff which I'm sure is interfering with adb....
Apr 30 07:30:38 <Herrie|Veer> I did a clean win 7 install on old work laptop without crappy work software and adb is fine there....
Apr 30 07:32:47 <DougReeder> Bummer. It’s a shame they have to change so much to mae work-suitable images.
Apr 30 07:33:47 <DougReeder> I actually have a Lenovo laptop for work - I was really glad my company makes custom images, when the MitM thing broke.
Apr 30 07:34:22 <Herrie|Veer> Yeah well they're all paranoid about people "stealing" confidential stuff so they add all this stuff.. Also have Lenovo but with corporate image ;)
Apr 30 07:34:57 <Herrie|Veer> Anyway you can boot in safe mode or via usb into linux and copy stuff so it's a very lame protection LOL :P
Apr 30 07:35:07 * DougReeder nods
Apr 30 07:35:10 <Tofe> Herrie|Veer: ok, I'll have a look
Apr 30 07:42:35 <morphis> Garfonso: I think I see now why the display doesn't turn on
Apr 30 07:43:07 <morphis> luna-next is blocking and can't handle incoming requests to change the display state
Apr 30 07:43:16 <morphis> (gdb) bt
Apr 30 07:43:16 <morphis> #0  syscall () at ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/arm/syscall.S:37
Apr 30 07:43:16 <morphis> #1  0x40db5c78 in QBasicMutex::lockInternal() () from /usr/lib/libQt5Core.so.5
Apr 30 07:44:13 <Garfonso> but restarting luna-next did not help me.
Apr 30 07:44:20 <Herrie|Veer> morphis: Good :)
Apr 30 07:44:48 <Herrie|Veer> Garfonso: You probably just restarted luna-next-cardshell and not luna-next itself?
Apr 30 07:45:34 <morphis> Herrie|Veer: how is that possible?
Apr 30 07:46:16 <Garfonso> ah.. it's true.. luna-next did not restart, it's not reacting to the kill signal. Using force it comes up again. :)
Apr 30 07:46:42 <morphis> that is what I see too
Apr 30 07:47:05 <morphis> however the display state is really messed up when this happens
Apr 30 08:14:34 <Herrie|Veer> morphis: This might be somehow related to 537 and 543 and maybe even 515 on TP?
Apr 30 08:15:42 <Tofe> Herrie|Veer: https://github.com/webOS-ports/luna-next-cardshell/commit/bdc8f220c653366d34ff5d1ef4b05f61b71e8611 ?
Apr 30 08:16:22 <Tofe> that seems to work well, I don't know if you tried that
Apr 30 08:16:57 <Herrie|Veer> No I just tried playing with width and height to no avail :P
Apr 30 08:21:53 <Herrie|Veer> Tofe you tested on N4?
Apr 30 08:23:13 <Tofe> Herrie|Veer: not at all
Apr 30 08:23:22 <Tofe> just on desktop
Apr 30 08:23:35 <Tofe> (i.e. more or less fake display)
Apr 30 08:26:17 <morphis> Herrie|Veer: possible
Apr 30 08:27:32 <Herrie|Veer> ok had to use vi with FingerTerm to test (pain LOL) but it works on N4 :P
Apr 30 08:28:53 <Tofe> good, let's merge
Apr 30 08:29:29 <Herrie|Veer> Done already
Apr 30 08:29:56 <Herrie|Veer> Any chance you'll be able to look at the power stuff when in landscape sometime soon?
Apr 30 08:31:23 <Tofe> yes, I have a long week-end coming soon :)
Apr 30 08:31:37 <Herrie|Veer> :)
Apr 30 08:31:58 <Herrie|Veer> I think once that's sorted + vkb in orientation we're OK for a merge :)
Apr 30 08:35:21 <Tofe> I've already begun working on the vkb orientation, shouldn't be too hard
Apr 30 08:35:49 <Tofe> A merge at the end of the week-end is now a possibility :)
Apr 30 08:36:47 <Herrie|Veer> vkb orientation seems OK, just it needs to stretch. On N4 rotated is still shows small width vkb
Apr 30 08:41:12 <Herrie|Veer> Tofe: Noticed another small thing. Padlock disappears after screen was off on N4 when in landscape with locked orientation
Apr 30 08:41:40 <Tofe> That's pretty specific :)
Apr 30 08:42:06 <Herrie|Veer> Not 100% sure that's my LNC or that was addressed already. Got a hybrid orientation + resized lockscreen
Apr 30 08:42:29 <Tofe> ok, worth a check though
Apr 30 08:43:03 <Herrie|Veer> Padlock is probably there just not visible, same with gesture area
Apr 30 08:43:19 <Herrie|Veer> It below the bottom part of screen. So probably needs a resize somehow
Apr 30 08:47:41 <Tofe> there is no gesture area when the padlock is active
Apr 30 08:48:09 <Tofe> but for the latter I agree with your analysis
Apr 30 08:48:24 <Herrie|Veer> Ah Tofe: Seems it's my PadLock.qml
Apr 30 08:48:43 <Herrie|Veer> it doesn't have the Qt.bindings fix in it yet
Apr 30 08:53:01 <Tofe> ok, good it's already fixed then
Apr 30 08:54:12 <Herrie|Veer> Yeah will vi and see how it behaves
Apr 30 08:58:45 <Herrie|Veer> Tofe it's a bit odd but better now, oddity is probably my vi skills in FingerTerm LOL :P
Apr 30 09:01:13 <morphis> Herrie|Veer: #581 must not be because the json itself is invalid
Apr 30 09:01:22 <morphis> it could be a field which doesn't match the required schema
Apr 30 09:18:10 <Herrie|Veer> morphis: OK was just my initial quick check for this one
Apr 30 09:18:51 <Herrie|Veer> I wrote down quite a number of other errors that are probably quick to fix from the logs, will raise some issues for this. Can vary from missing images to missing config files etc
Apr 30 09:20:34 <morphis> great
Apr 30 10:14:39 <morphis> Herrie|Veer: btw. the font size needs to be a bit less on the lockscreen
Apr 30 10:14:45 <morphis> and maybe not bold too
Apr 30 10:17:40 <Herrie|Veer> morphis: cosmetics LOL :P
Apr 30 10:17:44 <Herrie|Veer> It was bold originally
Apr 30 10:17:50 <Herrie|Veer> Didn't touch that
Apr 30 10:18:32 <Herrie|Veer> I'm not too happy with the limits we have with the fontutils
Apr 30 10:18:44 <Herrie|Veer> Doesn't match all our requirements
Apr 30 10:24:31 <morphis> what exactly do you mean?
Apr 30 10:26:21 <Herrie|Veer> Well medium is 14pt and we only have 8, 10, 12, 14, 20 and 33 pt equivs
Apr 30 10:26:50 <Herrie|Veer> We have a lot of text in 16, 18, 20, 22, 24 and 28px in legacy
Apr 30 10:27:04 <Herrie|Veer> s/x/t
Apr 30 10:27:55 <Herrie|Veer> So when converting 16, 18 you'll end up with either both 14 or 20 or one of them 14 and one of them 20
Apr 30 10:30:01 <Herrie|Veer> I'd suggest to add additional options for each of the respective pt sizes so we have more options
Apr 30 10:30:06 <Herrie|Veer> I can do a PR for that
Apr 30 10:30:26 <Herrie|Veer> Code changes are minimal, just so we can more easily convert stuff from legacy as well
Apr 30 13:54:59 <morphis> Herrie|Veer: why not
Apr 30 13:55:29 <Herrie|Veer> Any preference for name? I think it would be easy to include the original pt
Apr 30 13:55:44 <Herrie|Veer> So ....16pt for example
Apr 30 14:00:16 <nizovn> morning
Apr 30 14:04:56 <Herrie|Veer> nizovn: morning
Apr 30 14:46:41 <Herrie|Veer> morphis/Tofe: Did PR for both luna-next and luna-next-cardshell for all values used in legacy so we should be good with those.
Apr 30 14:56:56 <Tofe> Herrie|Veer: ok
Apr 30 15:06:08 <Herrie|Veer> Tofe: did the same for cardshell stub stuff
Apr 30 15:06:31 <Tofe> merged !
Apr 30 15:06:36 <Herrie|Veer> I guess would need to check all QML apps? So Phone, Browser, FirstUse as well?
Apr 30 15:08:04 <Herrie|Veer> Will get to those shortly I guess :)
Apr 30 15:12:55 <morphis> Herrie|Veer: I got the shutdown fixed recently
Apr 30 15:13:00 <morphis> fill push changes for that later today
Apr 30 15:13:24 <morphis> s/fill/will/
Apr 30 15:21:40 <Herrie|Veer> Great, just updated, PR-ed and merged the fonts stuff. Will take it forward from there for LNC and FirstUse stuff
Apr 30 15:22:03 <Herrie|Veer> morphis: both on N4 and TP?
Apr 30 15:24:01 <Herrie|Veer> I'm working on search engine selection in Settings, will then move over to bluetooth stuffs
Apr 30 15:26:44 <morphis> Herrie|Veer: yeah, should work on both
Apr 30 15:27:04 <Herrie|Veer> Great :)
Apr 30 15:27:30 <Herrie|Veer> Will try to work on some of the older bugs just if it is to verify or find more info
Apr 30 15:40:53 <morphis> ok
Apr 30 15:41:08 <morphis> nizovn: btw. I tried with recent sensor changes and sensortestapp works a lot better
Apr 30 15:41:15 <morphis> I can exit it and restart and it still works
Apr 30 15:44:42 <nizovn> morphis: nice, maybe we can enable als as well
Apr 30 15:44:51 <morphis> yeah
Apr 30 15:44:58 <morphis> it was just disabled in the config file, right?
Apr 30 15:45:04 <nizovn> yes
Apr 30 15:55:12 <Herrie|Veer> Tofe: ping
Apr 30 16:19:58 <Tofe> Herrie|Veer: pong
Apr 30 16:45:31 <Herrie> Tofe: I noticed that legacy has a button on the last power warning to OK and close it, it seems to be in the source code at https://github.com/webOS-ports/luna-systemui/blob/webOS-ports/master/app/PowerdAlerts/PowerdAlerts.js#L52 but it doesn't show on N4 or TP, any ideas?
Apr 30 16:53:15 <Tofe> Herrie: oh, mh, not really
Apr 30 16:53:42 <Tofe> an alert window is like all other windows, except we show it in a predefined place
Apr 30 16:53:48 <Herrie> Could be just the height of it not sure
Apr 30 16:53:52 <Herrie> It's below the text
Apr 30 16:53:58 <Herrie> So could be it needs to be higher somehow
Apr 30 17:41:23 <morphis> Herrie: yeah
Apr 30 17:42:21 <morphis> Herrie: see https://github.com/webOS-ports/luna-systemui/commit/575c5c2cf61a55919afc4ad64be06376074b90e6 for an example
Apr 30 17:44:35 <morphis> Herrie: also see https://github.com/webOS-ports/luna-webappmanager/commit/8d6d2804390bdfd797974b0ff4cd40e89e26c3c3
Apr 30 17:44:56 <morphis> you can include a metrics key in the attributes
Apr 30 17:45:08 <morphis> set it to units and the window height will be calculated in units rather than px
Apr 30 17:48:50 <Herrie|2> morphis: I think that's actually the problem of the power off on TP
Apr 30 17:51:44 <morphis> really?
Apr 30 17:52:18 <Herrie|2> Let me test
Apr 30 17:54:34 <Herrie|2> Yup it is
Apr 30 17:54:54 <Herrie|2> https://github.com/webOS-ports/luna-systemui/blob/webOS-ports/master/data/PowerdService.js#L216
Apr 30 17:55:05 <Herrie|2> This causes the black on the bottom on TP in Landscape
Apr 30 17:55:26 <Herrie|2> I changed it to 250 and it's a lot better
Apr 30 17:55:56 <morphis> ok, but you can't stay with 250
Apr 30 17:56:28 <morphis> try with enyo.windows.openPopup("app/PowerdAlerts/powerdalerts.html", "PowerOffAlert", {"metrics":"units"}, undefined, 30);
Apr 30 18:04:18 <Herrie|2> That breaks it completely, ie it doesn't show
Apr 30 18:04:24 <Herrie|2> Nothing obvious in journalctl
Apr 30 18:04:57 <Herrie|2> https://bpaste.net/show/912ad250639e
Apr 30 18:07:55 <Herrie|2> And on Mako: https://bpaste.net/show/e635dabb4ee3
Apr 30 18:12:30 <nizovn> Herrie|2: can you test sensorfw a little if you have time?
Apr 30 18:16:13 <Herrie|2> nizovn: Sure what you want me to do?
Apr 30 18:18:36 <nizovn> Herrie|2: see the output of /system/bin/logcat , does it change when turn on/off screen
Apr 30 18:18:47 <nizovn> ?
Apr 30 18:20:57 <Herrie|2> Let me reboot N4 and check
Apr 30 18:23:54 <Herrie|2> nizovn: https://bpaste.net/show/7d341328e66a
Apr 30 18:24:20 <Herrie|2> At bottom turned off & on screen a few times
Apr 30 18:25:40 <nizovn> Herrie|2: thanks, can you try it again with new version? i will mail it
Apr 30 18:25:57 <Herrie|2> Sure :)
Apr 30 18:32:38 <nizovn> Herrie|2: thanks, sent it
Apr 30 18:35:05 <Herrie|2> got it need to do logcat again?
Apr 30 18:35:22 <nizovn> yes, please
Apr 30 18:36:00 <Herrie|2> https://bpaste.net/show/8f0bb3c8023e
Apr 30 18:36:06 <Herrie|2> At bottom again
Apr 30 18:41:45 <nizovn> Herrie|2: thanks, so rotation doesn't work again when not connected?
Apr 30 18:48:12 <Herrie|2> correct
Apr 30 18:49:25 <Herrie|2> not working again
Apr 30 19:06:26 <Herrie|2> Hi elvispre!
Apr 30 20:06:01 <nizovn> morphis, Herrie: i don't like E/qcom_sensors_hal messages, seems it's indeed mako specific bug. not sure what to do with sensorfw.
Apr 30 20:24:12 <Herrie> nizovn: I see various references at Google but no real solution it seems... Was reported at Cyanogen too... It could be it will "automagically" disappear once we move mako to 4.4.x from 4.2.2
Apr 30 20:28:41 <Herrie> Seeing it doesn't happen on TP which is based on Android 4.4.x it's actually quite likely it's something in 4.2.2
Apr 30 20:32:53 <Herrie> Not sure where morphis is with the 4.4.x update. He came quite a long way some months ago but there were/was some blocking issue(s)
Apr 30 20:34:08 <nizovn> ok
Apr 30 23:24:53 <Grabber> #greetings
Apr 30 23:42:47 <ka6sox> morning
Apr 30 23:47:14 <Grabber> huh? I'm awake! :)  Hey, how are you?
Apr 30 23:47:30 <Grabber> Tom, right?
Apr 30 23:53:03 <Grabber> I am looking for info on how to non-destructively disable webOS service. Forgive me for asking here, but since the principle is the same as LuneOS, I figured I had more of a chance here, since webos-internals has been pretty quiet lately
Apr 30 23:55:08 <Grabber> typo.. ----^ a webOS javascript service - in this case, the backup service, which seems to start up even when backups are turned off
Apr 30 23:57:36 <EricBlade> if you find it's role file in /var/ls2 or some such you could remove it..
Apr 30 23:57:42 <Grabber> I was able to comment out the call home to try to purge backups so it would reach the end and update the preferences, which succeeded, but on boot it still starts the service which tries to contact the backup servers.  Signing out of palm profile using Impostah didn't stop it.
Apr 30 23:58:01 <Grabber> Hi Eric
May 01 00:01:27 <Grabber> would that be under /usr/share/ls2/roles?
May 01 00:02:00 <Grabber> I only read about services enough to have a basic understanding of them.. I have never tried writing one, so not much of it stuck :)
May 01 00:03:53 <Grabber> this would be easier if I got up and grabbed a touchpad.. :)
May 01 00:05:35 <Grabber> that wouldn't have any adverse side-effects would it?
May 01 00:10:48 <EricBlade> probably not. you could mv it out of the directory or something just to make sure you don't lose it
May 01 00:11:29 <EricBlade> there are two json files that go to a service, one is a role file and one is a file that i can't remember what it is, but it tells the system how to launch the service ..
May 01 00:11:40 <EricBlade> removing one or the other should effectively disable it ..
May 01 00:12:01 <Grabber> yeah that's what I was thinking.. I want to be able to undo it. Trying to put something together for folks like me that forgot to turn off backups again before the servers were shut down :)
May 01 00:14:59 <Grabber> I was just looking at that those other files earlier.. I see palm_bus_config.json that has the service id, and and services.json, which lists the operations.. neither of those looked like good candidates
May 01 00:15:21 <Grabber> I thought it was strange that even after cancelling the activity, it was still launching the node service on boot
May 01 00:16:56 <Grabber> I would hate to have to doctor to stop all of these services from running
May 01 00:18:28 <Grabber> if I thought it wouldn't cause problems I'd try to remove the app and service altogether, but anything I put out there for others I want reversible :D
May 01 00:26:11 <Grabber> does +v Herrie mean you joined or got a promotion?
May 01 00:57:29 <ka6sox> he joined
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