**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun May 03 03:00:00 2015
May 03 09:09:09 <Tofe> Herrie: ping
May 03 09:09:19 <Herrie> Tofe: pong
May 03 09:09:45 <Herrie> You just caught me at the right time, just came home and sat down 3 seconds ago LOL
May 03 09:10:17 <Tofe> Herrie: in order to have a more realistic desktop testing of the keyboard, I would need to have symlinks in the git repo... do you think that's be ok ? it will only be for the tests, I don't do any change in the main source directories
May 03 09:10:19 <Tofe> :)
May 03 09:10:55 <Tofe> it works on my linux of course, but I'm not sure for others
May 03 09:11:27 <Herrie> Tofe: I can test on Windows but cannot really do symlinks there?
May 03 09:11:46 <Tofe> Windows supports directory symlinks iirc
May 03 09:11:53 <Tofe> but for files, that's another story
May 03 09:12:12 <Tofe> I'll push it, and also test that at work
May 03 09:12:57 <Herrie> I can test it here on Windows
May 03 09:13:16 <Herrie> Would be good if it works in QtCreator, can really help in getting different keyboard layouts developed quickly :D
May 03 09:13:31 <Herrie> For the people who want azerty, Dvorak or the thumb keyboard :P
May 03 09:13:44 <Tofe> exactly
May 03 09:14:20 <Herrie> I'm OK with regular QWERTY :P
May 03 09:14:23 <Tofe> pushed tode/test-keyboard
May 03 09:14:26 <Tofe> tofe*
May 03 09:14:34 <Herrie> But I know "you French" like AZERTY more ;)
May 03 09:14:42 <Herrie> Even though there's no real need for it :P
May 03 09:15:11 <Tofe> yeah, hurray for historical dumb reasons...
May 03 09:15:48 <Tofe> "I still like to code in C++ with my mechanical typewriter"
May 03 09:16:03 <Herrie> LOL ;) I can do ç é è á etc without issues on my US International keyboard ;)
May 03 09:16:38 <Herrie> We DO have some NL keyboard layout but it's very rare to see nowadays :P
May 03 09:16:56 <Herrie> 20 years ago it existed quite commonly but now almost everybody uses a US International one ;)
May 03 09:17:08 <Tofe> you don't have weird letters like the Danish or Swedish ones?
May 03 09:19:07 <Herrie> Well we have ocasionally but we can use the US International layout to do ö, ë etc ;)
May 03 09:19:18 <Herrie> For the rest we just have the 26 regular letters ;)
May 03 09:20:07 <Tofe> ok :)
May 03 09:21:02 <Herrie> But yeah Norwegian and Danish might be more challenging with their letters ;)
May 03 09:21:20 <Tofe> Tip: with a long-press on the language key on the vkb, you can switch language
May 03 09:25:50 <Herrie> Cool let me try
May 03 09:27:21 <Tofe> https://github.com/git-for-windows/git/issues/117 <-- it's far from being obvious on windows. I think I should really avoid these symlinks.
May 03 09:28:51 <Herrie> Which file I should open?
May 03 09:28:55 <Herrie> The .pro in root?
May 03 09:29:00 <Herrie> That crashes my QtCreator :P
May 03 09:42:00 <Tofe> no the qmlproject in   tests/qmltests/keyboard-test/keyboard-test
May 03 09:47:47 <Herrie> https://bpaste.net/show/82b7a38c062b
May 03 09:48:50 <Tofe> yeah, doesn't work... I'll try to figure out something else.
May 03 09:50:22 <Herrie> I can do other stuff by manually moving files but that's not ideal of course ;)
May 03 09:50:25 <Tofe> The problem is that the directory structure of the sources is quite different from the install directory structure: in the source code, the language are regrouped in a plugin subfolder, with C++ and qml code put together. But in the install, the qml files are installed in a lib/<language>/ subfolder of the main files. So it doesn't match.
May 03 09:50:45 <Tofe> I would like to avoid doing copies, so that we always modify the real source file, not a copy
May 03 09:50:52 <Tofe> otherwise we'll make mistakes, for sure
May 03 09:51:42 <Herrie> Yeah I agree
May 03 09:52:02 <Herrie> I got the english layout to show after copying stuff
May 03 09:52:36 <Tofe> yes, makes sense
May 03 09:59:34 <Herrie> Any easy way to switch between the different layouts for a single language (email, url and regular). We might want to add something that will show on desktop only to switch?
May 03 10:05:50 <Tofe> That'll be in keyboard-test.qml, in the properties, there is one property driving that, but I don't know yet which one :)
May 03 10:06:13 <Tofe> ah yes, contentType
May 03 10:07:14 <Tofe> 0 ->  text, 1 -> number, 2 -> telephone, 3 -> email, 4 -> url
May 03 10:59:13 <Tofe> Herrie: I think I've found a way
May 03 10:59:27 <Tofe> Reasonably intrusive in the source code
May 03 11:02:43 <Herrie> :D
May 03 11:03:47 <Tofe> I've made the change for the english keyboard and the maybe-webos keyboard, and the same change has to be done for the other languages, but I think it's ok
May 03 11:04:10 <Tofe> it's pushed now, replace the previous commit
May 03 11:04:13 <Tofe> replacing
May 03 11:12:19 <Tofe> Now I've done all the other languages. Care to try ?
May 03 11:14:45 <Herrie> OK let me try
May 03 11:14:50 <Herrie> Was having quick lunch ;)
May 03 11:15:08 <Tofe> oh, sure
May 03 11:17:17 <Tofe> I've already done a test on N4, it doesn't seem to break everything
May 03 11:26:40 <Herrie> :D
May 03 11:26:41 <Herrie> Nice
May 03 11:26:46 <Herrie> Works OK for me too :)
May 03 11:27:09 <Tofe> Herrie: I'm adding some nice stuff above the keyboard to change the settings interactively
May 03 11:27:12 <Herrie> Will try and see if I can work out something that can resize the keyboard for XS, S, M, L like legacy
May 03 11:27:41 <Tofe> Herrie: you can already resize the keyboard as you wish, to simulate landscape or portrait
May 03 11:27:45 <Herrie> Should be quite straight forward. Add a button similar to language with the XS, S, M and L option and adjust the heights accordingly?
May 03 11:28:18 <Tofe> Herrie: the window represents the screen, in this test
May 03 11:28:49 <Tofe> oh, there was such option? didn't know :)
May 03 11:29:03 <Herrie> Yeah ;)
May 03 11:31:19 <Herrie> Long press on the "hide vkb" button ;)
May 03 11:31:34 <Herrie> Let me paste some screenshots
May 03 11:34:05 <Tofe> https://github.com/webOS-ports/webos-keyboard/commit/10332246d101387c69b228a33fa12504dc3bf091 <-- now we can begin to play with it
May 03 11:36:11 <Herrie> Tofe: http://tinypic.com/r/11lj1uh/8 + http://tinypic.com/r/33e64r7/8 (that's L), http://tinypic.com/r/nd8ort/8 (that's M), http://tinypic.com/r/6gj12f/8 (That's S) and http://tinypic.com/r/noasxw/8 (XS)
May 03 11:38:16 <Tofe> ok it's only the height of the keys; hopefully that will quite easy to implement
May 03 11:43:06 <Herrie> Yeah shouldn't be too hard
May 03 11:50:44 <Tofe> Ok, now we have all the layouts working in the test project
May 03 11:51:21 <Tofe> Apart if you see a major flaw, I'll PR it
May 03 11:51:38 <Tofe> mmh
May 03 11:51:46 <Tofe> I should test the compilation first
May 03 11:55:24 <Herrie> How you want to go about portrait and landscape layout (i.e. tablet v.s. phone)
May 03 11:55:36 <Herrie> Legacy EFIGS differentiated between them
May 03 11:57:09 <Herrie> https://github.com/openwebos/keyboard-efigs/tree/master/src
May 03 11:57:59 <Tofe> portrait and landscape are already differentiated; but not phone vs tablet
May 03 11:58:29 <Tofe> I don't know yet how to get that info from within the maliit plugin
May 03 12:00:21 <Tofe> samewise, the dpi isn't retrieved currently
May 03 12:03:42 <Tofe> ok, seems to work.
May 03 12:05:13 <Tofe> morphis: https://github.com/webOS-ports/webos-keyboard/pull/19
May 03 12:09:28 <Herrie> Tofe ah OK
May 03 12:09:36 <Herrie> Not sure how Jolla/Ubuntu guys did it
May 03 12:10:15 <Tofe> oh well, for us it's just a matter of asking LunaSysManager about the value
May 03 12:14:14 <Herrie> Yeah ;) It should be :)
May 03 12:33:38 <Tofe> This new test framework is very convenient to fix layout issues, I regret not having done that before!
May 03 13:10:28 <Herrie> :D
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