**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri May 15 02:59:58 2015 May 15 04:29:32 The PR which adds dashboard tests to Testr is https://github.com/webOS-ports/org.webosports.app.testr/pull/20 May 15 04:55:26 * PatrickC has been doing press stuff too long vs dev May 15 04:55:32 read that as "the press release ..." lol May 15 08:45:18 Herrie: dashboard windows are again allowed for all May 15 08:45:20 Tofe: I pushed 5.4.1 now May 15 09:37:00 morphis: Dash yes, but I think we still had a restriction for nowindow apps? May 15 09:41:05 What do you envision on new SMS/IM notifications how that would work when the messaging app is not running? May 15 09:42:01 BTW: Seems that Pattyland got Telegram working on LuneOS! I forgot our conclusion on the apps for the Preware feeds, needs to have max webOS Version of 3.5 ? May 15 10:09:23 Herrie: really? May 15 10:09:54 Herrie: either the service creates the notifications but that is not possible when we want to use dashboard ones May 15 10:10:03 just the notification service is then possible May 15 10:13:01 JaMa: btw. when we you have a setup for qt 5.5 beta ready I would really like to give it a try May 15 10:25:59 ok May 15 10:30:21 JaMa: I just merged webOS-ports/master-next into the main branch of qtwebkit and qtwayland May 15 11:40:24 morphis: notification service would need to be written then still right? We don't have that currently? May 15 11:40:47 we have it already for quite a long time May 15 11:40:56 that is what we're already using for banner messages May 15 11:41:23 Herrie: https://github.com/webOS-ports/luna-next-cardshell/blob/master/qml/LunaSysAPI/NotificationService.qml May 15 12:06:25 Ah ok, I guess DougReeder should look into that then ;) May 15 12:06:45 For Preware, what should I reply to Pattyland? May 15 13:29:03 What kind of notifications is that service doing? Banners or Dashboards? May 15 13:34:27 Banners have text but no title. Dashboards are windows that can contain anything. May 15 13:36:12 morphis, thanks for approving my PR. If you run Testr under webOS, the difference between banners and dashboards is clear. May 15 13:39:20 It’s a common pattern to display a banner when opeing a Dashboard, but that’s not required. May 15 13:50:20 DougReeder: right, with that should now get the difference between both May 15 13:50:38 I would recommend people are using the notification service for simple notifications no needing any further control May 15 13:50:48 and dashboard windows only to implement additional functionality May 15 13:54:11 THe “Messages/Notifications “ section of http://webos-ports.org/wiki/Human_Interface_Guidelines#Messages.2FNotifications summarizes usage, but it should be expanded. May 15 14:11:42 ok May 15 15:10:40 Herrie: no sure what the final decision was but depends on if the app is available in sourec or not May 15 15:11:06 more or less I would prefer having such things in a pivotce feed the user then has to manually enable in preware like we do for the others May 15 16:00:38 I updated the HIG on notifications: http://webos-ports.org/wiki/Human_Interface_Guidelines#Types May 15 16:53:39 morphis: you mean you started a build 5.4.1 somewhere, or should I build it myself? May 15 16:53:59 maybe I should look at the "unstable" builds ? May 15 16:57:30 Tofe: I think it's in the testing build now? May 15 16:58:00 DougReeder: It might be good to add some pictures/screenshots at some point in time, some people are more visually oriented ;) May 15 17:04:12 Tofe, Herrie: 5.4.1 is in testing now May 15 17:16:30 ok May 15 18:17:37 morphis/Tofe: I seem to experience very frequent LNC restarts in latest build May 15 18:22:01 journalctl: https://bpaste.net/show/58c25c38aa6b May 15 18:23:21 Herrie, add ascreenshots to the HIG? May 15 18:23:51 Any items in particular? May 15 18:37:22 DougReeder: No just in general so people have a visual about dashboards, banners etc May 15 18:37:44 * DougReeder nods “I added a few that I could find quickly” May 15 19:17:49 Does anyone have a screenshot with a half-dozen icons in the notification bar, that they could upload? May 15 19:33:28 Herrie, ping? May 15 19:44:22 ka6sox: pong May 15 19:45:44 Herrie: luna-next died line 7040 with segfault, after a Testr app was launched May 15 19:48:37 Tofe: Yeah not sure it's testr specifically or something else May 15 19:49:24 Herrie, are you seeing the discussion in -internals? May 15 19:50:35 No I haven't been there for a while May 15 19:50:38 Logged in now May 15 19:51:32 We have logs of that channel somewhere? May 15 19:52:38 Tofe: On the gesture area not working: With me it seems to start working after a screen off and on May 15 20:31:19 ka6sox: while you're around, I cloned: https://github.com/webos-internals/build May 15 20:32:16 On Ubuntu 12.04 x64 when I run make I get a message saying that "make[2]: /home/herrie/Downloads/buildapps/build/toolchain/cs07q3armel/build/arm-2007q3/bin/arm-none-linux-gnueabi-gcc: Command not found" while I can see it's there... Any ideas? May 15 20:33:12 does it run? May 15 20:33:14 strace -fo foo.out May 15 20:56:29 Tofe: is it regardless of the app you open? May 15 20:56:35 so does it happen with all wayland clients? May 15 21:57:35 morphis: I don't know, it's just a first analysis of Herries' log May 15 21:58:01 maybe it's because of the order we get the window properties, I didn't have time to analyze yet May 15 22:04:53 Tofe: I assume you also saw this; file:///usr/palm/luna-next/shells/card/qml/CardView/CardWindowWrapper.qml:168:5: QML Connections: Cannot assign to non-existent property "onDefaultWindowHeightChanged" May 15 22:04:59 And a few more in surrounding lines **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat May 16 02:59:59 2015