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May 20 03:00:14 <Darakian> mostly because I hate the size of modern phones
May 20 03:13:32 <DougReeder> They fit in the hand very nicely.
May 20 03:15:09 <DougReeder> While writing a test for Testr, I realized that dashboards on the Pre3 have 78 physical pixels. There’s gotta be soemthing cool (and probably useless) you could do with that.
May 20 03:33:33 <Darakian> lol
May 20 03:49:52 <Darakian> ok, complaint
May 20 03:50:04 <Darakian> do you really need more than one city per timezone?
May 20 03:51:39 <Darakian> performance is much better than I remember
May 20 03:56:01 <Darakian> light bar height doubled after a reboot...
May 20 03:56:11 <Darakian> well the light bar didn't but the black area did
May 20 05:23:32 <Herrie> Darakian: That's probably a notification without a specified icon. We fixed that in the latest nightly, so it shows the icon.png in case there's no icons specified for Enyo dashboards
May 20 05:23:57 <Darakian> Ok, cool
May 20 05:24:04 <Darakian> I like the work that's been done over all
May 20 05:24:12 <Darakian> it's shaping up well :)
May 20 05:27:11 <Herrie> You tried on N4?
May 20 05:27:42 <Herrie> For your vCard: You have a gmail account?
May 20 05:27:59 <Herrie> "easiest" is to import it there and then sync it ;)
May 20 05:28:01 <Herrie> I think ;)
May 20 05:28:38 <Darakian> ya....
May 20 05:28:44 <Darakian> trying to avoid the google if possible
May 20 05:28:52 <Darakian> haven't tried on the N4
May 20 05:29:31 <Herrie> Darakian: That's the easiest ;)
May 20 05:29:34 <Herrie> http://www.hpwebos.com/us/support/downloads/pre/migration/somewhereelse.html
May 20 05:29:41 <Herrie> That has some instructions
May 20 05:30:03 <Herrie> Garfonso is our C+DAV expert and knows a lot about contacts+calendar
May 20 05:30:12 <Herrie> He's usually waking up around this time like me ;)
May 20 05:30:17 <Herrie> He's in Germany, I'm in NL ;)
May 20 05:30:20 <Darakian> ah
May 20 05:30:22 <Darakian> was about to say
May 20 05:30:23 <Herrie> Same timezone ;)
May 20 05:30:30 <Darakian> it's freaking 7:30pm :p
May 20 05:32:36 <Herrie> You tried emulator, Touchpad or.... ?
May 20 05:32:58 <Darakian> as a contact import platform?
May 20 05:34:15 <Herrie> No for LUneoS :P
May 20 05:34:20 <Darakian> oh
May 20 05:34:24 <Darakian> no, just on the n4
May 20 05:34:32 <Herrie> Ah :)
May 20 05:34:40 <Darakian> tried the nexus galaxy a while back when it was still webos
May 20 05:34:43 <Herrie> It's still all software rendered ;_
May 20 05:34:47 <Herrie> ;)
May 20 05:34:53 <Darakian> that explains a few things
May 20 05:34:59 <Herrie> So the performance it's great with some thing
May 20 05:35:02 <Darakian> still, quite good
May 20 05:35:10 <Herrie> But in general it's speady and boots quickly :)
May 20 05:35:42 <Herrie> I've been working on the virtual keyboard for the last week or so on and off
May 20 05:36:09 <Herrie> Taking shape nicely as well :) Tofe did some of the heavy lifting since he's a QML guru and I'm doing lots of layout tweaks so we have tablet + phone vkb
May 20 05:36:22 <Herrie> We currently have the same on both N4 and TP
May 20 05:36:41 <Herrie> But with rotation working we can finally move into seperate layouts :)
May 20 05:36:50 <Herrie> And add the number row on Touchpad for example :D
May 20 05:36:51 <Darakian> oh shit
May 20 05:36:58 <Darakian> rotation does work
May 20 05:36:59 <Darakian> !
May 20 05:37:03 <Herrie> Yup and lock too ;)
May 20 05:37:15 <Herrie> Lock doesn't survive reboot though yet ;)
May 20 05:37:19 <Darakian> that slow rotate and stretch is amazing
May 20 05:37:38 <Herrie> THere you can see it's all software rendered :P
May 20 05:37:44 <Darakian> lol
May 20 05:37:56 <Darakian> please leave that in as a option when you get it going in hardware
May 20 05:38:05 <Darakian> it's very 90's
May 20 05:39:03 <Darakian> awwww you took my wallpaper out
May 20 05:41:06 <Herrie> Huh?
May 20 05:41:12 <Darakian> http://www.webos-ports.org/wiki/WallpaperContest
May 20 05:41:19 <Darakian> http://www.webos-ports.org/wiki/File:Darakian.jpg
May 20 05:42:20 <Herrie> I think we only have 1 in there currently but that might change ;)
May 20 05:42:27 <Herrie> We had some word about that recently ;)
May 20 05:42:30 <Darakian> 10 by my count :p
May 20 05:42:40 <Darakian> none with thumnnails in the wallpaper picker
May 20 05:42:55 <Herrie> That could be a bug ;)
May 20 05:43:02 <Herrie> The wallpaper picker is Enyo 1 from legacy
May 20 05:43:15 <Herrie> Also that we'd like to put a new wallpaper in as default sometime soon
May 20 05:43:22 <Herrie> And fix the wallpaper bits a bit
May 20 05:43:54 <Herrie> BTW SMS is also working on N4 ;)
May 20 05:43:57 <Darakian> I've made the offer before but you guys can have free range at my pics
May 20 05:43:59 <Darakian> https://secure.flickr.com/photos/darakian/
May 20 05:44:01 <Darakian> nice
May 20 05:44:10 <Herrie> No IM or phone calls yet but that's being worked on too :P
May 20 05:44:25 <Darakian> if google makes a nexus with a keyboard that runs luneos I'll be all over that
May 20 05:44:38 <Darakian> but I really hate the trend of bigger and bigger phones
May 20 05:45:14 <Herrie> Same here not for me... I use my Veer as daily phone. I could bear a Pre 3
May 20 05:45:23 <Herrie> N4 size is about the max I'm willing to go
May 20 05:45:59 <Darakian> just got a pre 3 after running sailfish on the n4 for the past few months
May 20 05:46:44 <Darakian> also slide to answer/hang up is just freaking cool
May 20 05:47:06 <Herrie> Sailfish guys do a lot of nice things, they got a bit bigger team so things move quicker ;)
May 20 05:47:11 <Herrie> We're all volunteers ;)
May 20 05:47:17 <Darakian> aye, some nice UI design too
May 20 05:47:32 <Herrie> But we borrow bits from them where possible and from Ubuntu too ;)
May 20 05:47:53 <Herrie> We're using pretty much the same base for lots of things, so it's fairly interchangeable without too much modifications :)
May 20 05:48:09 <Darakian> does that mean they're software rendered on the n4 as well?
May 20 05:48:25 <Herrie> I think they moved to hardware rendering already
May 20 05:48:30 <Herrie> WE'll be getting there too
May 20 05:48:41 <Darakian> nice
May 20 05:48:43 <Herrie> Our Android base needs updating to 4.4.4 as well instead of 4.2.2 ;)
May 20 05:48:58 <Darakian> so what's involved in the android base?
May 20 05:49:03 <Darakian> why have it there at all?
May 20 05:50:20 <Herrie> It's a very minimal layer basically. Problem is mainly that for all phones there are only Android binary blob drivers
May 20 05:51:03 <Herrie> We use libhybris (just like Jolla and Ubuntu) to be able to speak to the hardware bits ;)
May 20 05:51:18 <Darakian> so it's not a real operating system then
May 20 05:51:24 <Darakian> just a translation library
May 20 05:51:36 <Herrie> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hybris_%28software%29
May 20 05:51:57 <Herrie> It's very minimal Android with pretty much anything not needed stripped out ;)
May 20 05:52:42 <Darakian> could it boot by itself?
May 20 05:56:07 <Herrie> Not sure, I guess so, just hybris makes sure we can use it from QT for example for the GUI
May 20 05:56:38 <Herrie> THe advantage is that this coudl theoretically be used on pretty much any Android phone (when there's a CyanogenMod for it)
May 20 05:57:04 <Darakian> why when there's cyanogen?
May 20 05:57:12 <Herrie> We need kernel ;)
May 20 05:57:18 <Darakian> ah
May 20 05:57:26 <Darakian> so, the install process
May 20 05:57:31 <Darakian> what's it doing in there?
May 20 05:57:35 <Herrie> Could be done from manufacturers kernel as well just would be more work ;)
May 20 05:57:49 <Herrie> With CM lots of the heavy lifting was done already by others ;)
May 20 05:57:59 <Darakian> stand on the shoulders of giants and all
May 20 05:58:01 <Darakian> ya
May 20 05:58:23 <Darakian> so, when I download a luneos-versionX.zip
May 20 05:58:31 <Darakian> run my clockwork install from zip
May 20 05:58:50 <Darakian> does it just decompress the zip and overwrite files or is there more going on in there?
May 20 05:59:10 <Herrie> I'm not 100% sure ;)
May 20 05:59:14 <Herrie> Never looked into that
May 20 05:59:25 <Herrie> Just got my refurbed N4 for LuneOS testing ;)
May 20 05:59:34 <Darakian> ah
May 20 05:59:45 <Herrie> So never ran Android or anything else on it ;)
May 20 06:00:11 <Darakian> android sucks
May 20 06:00:15 <Darakian> you're not missing much
May 20 06:00:39 <Herrie> I know ;) My wife got an Android now :P
May 20 06:10:13 <ka6sox> Herrie, mine got a N4 in anticipation
May 20 07:01:27 <Tofe> morning
May 20 07:06:27 <Herrie|Veer> Tofe: morning
May 20 07:14:29 <Herrie|Veer> Tofe: For 765 it shows some LNC stuff in logs so that might actually be the cause
May 20 07:17:01 <Herrie|Veer> CardWindowWrapper.qml 168 and 169. Might be a quick fix?
May 20 07:17:41 <Herrie|Veer> It could be the IPK's I sent across will never run on LuneOS, however they shouldn't cause other apps to not run at all afterwards :P
May 20 09:30:08 <Tofe> Herrie|Veer: no, it shouldn't be the reason of the problem
May 20 09:30:15 <Tofe> thought I'll propose a fix
May 20 09:30:20 <Tofe> though*
May 20 09:38:43 <Herrie|Veer> Tofe: Yeah probably not but it should be fixed anyway :P
May 20 09:41:46 <Tofe> it's in my tofe/fixes branch now :)
May 20 12:29:35 <Herrie|Veer> Tofe: Thnx will test that tonight :)
May 20 18:18:33 <Herrie|2> Tofe: Looks good I say PR & merge
May 20 18:37:58 <Tofe> ok
May 20 18:38:25 <Tofe> done & done :)
May 20 18:47:16 <Herrie|2> Tofe: I made pretty good progress on the size layout tweaks
May 20 18:47:23 <Herrie|2> Will try to do a PR tonight or tomorrow
May 20 18:47:52 <Herrie|2> Will be heading to Portugal tomorrow and back on June 1st. Will have my dev laptop with me though ;) So when "bored" I'll do some more tweaking :)
May 20 18:54:30 <DougReeder> May I ask what’s in Portugal? Sunshine?
May 20 18:55:15 <Herrie|2> 27c and sunshine ;)
May 20 18:55:27 <Herrie|2> Just like for you US guys to head to Florida or CA ;)
May 20 18:56:01 <Herrie|2> Having 6 months a year grey and rain is depressing here in Western Europe, so we head south for some sun & relaxation :P
May 20 18:56:23 <Herrie|2> Favorite destinations: South of France, Spain, Portugal, Greece, Turkey, Egypt for most people
May 20 18:56:28 * DougReeder nods
May 20 18:57:01 <Tofe> Herrie|2: have fun in Portugal! Where are you heading? Lisbon? Porto?
May 20 18:57:15 <Herrie|2> Further south, Albufeira ;)
May 20 18:57:22 <Herrie|2> NEver been to Portugal so we'll see how it is ;)
May 20 18:57:48 <Herrie|2> PR should fix most N4 layout issues. Still needs a little tweaking for XS on TP
May 20 18:59:03 <Herrie|2> Pretty much made everything phone/tablet dependant now so we're a bit more flexible going fwd
May 20 18:59:57 <Tofe> Herrie|2: ok, great :) I'll review it, and if it's good to go I think we have a good enough quality for merging it in master
May 20 19:00:26 <Herrie|2> Tofe: It should be OK, at least on QtCreator
May 20 19:00:36 <Herrie|2> You can do build test and test on device (and email me IPK :P)
May 20 19:02:38 <Tofe> yup
May 20 19:02:53 <Herrie|2> Did many minor adjustments
May 20 19:02:59 <Herrie|2> On N4 should look a lot better now
May 20 19:03:06 <Herrie|2> TP didn't change much, just few tweaks
May 20 19:11:20 <Tofe> the units->Units change was planned for me too, but I'm waiting we merge in master before starting this kind of thing
May 20 19:12:27 <Herrie|2> OK
May 20 19:12:35 <Herrie|2> Well did it where I saw it
May 20 19:12:38 <Herrie|2> Can do more in general
May 20 19:12:57 <Herrie|2> Was a bit hectic today wanted to have it in a better state but well
May 20 19:13:03 <Herrie|2> It's good enoguh to merge and cleanup from there
May 20 19:14:24 <Tofe> why do I see the keyboard-test.qml changes I merged yesterday in this PR ? It's a bit strange
May 20 19:14:38 <Herrie|2> I guess I didn't rebase, sorry
May 20 19:14:48 <Herrie|2> It's GH downsyncing and upsyncing at the same time
May 20 19:15:00 <Herrie|2> In windows GUI
May 20 19:17:01 <Herrie|2> Once merged I'll do a full rebase, I now just did selective PR for changed files
May 20 19:17:17 <Herrie|2> Couldn't exclude this one because of some changes I added :S
May 20 19:17:23 <Herrie|2> Still learning the ropes with GH
May 20 19:22:55 <Tofe> :)
May 20 19:27:58 <Tofe> Herrie|2: it's much better; ony one detail I saw: the font in the N4 popover is far too small
May 20 19:28:24 <Herrie|2> Ah that should be 32
May 20 19:28:36 <Herrie|2> COuld be a small tweak needed in Magnifier.qml
May 20 19:29:05 <Tofe> could be
May 20 19:29:11 <Tofe> well, good enough for me anyway
May 20 19:29:14 <Tofe> I'll merge
May 20 19:29:37 <Tofe> ah, right, I wanted to test on N4
May 20 19:29:59 <Herrie|2> https://github.com/Herrie82/webos-keyboard/blob/master/qml/keys/Magnifier.qml#L62
May 20 19:30:40 <Tofe> UI.fontsize[formFactor], I guess?
May 20 19:31:25 <Tofe> wait, you took the wrong branch
May 20 19:32:04 <Herrie|2> https://github.com/Herrie82/webos-keyboard/blob/tofe/test-desktop-work/qml/keys/Magnifier.qml#L136
May 20 19:32:21 <Herrie|2> Needs [formFactor] I guess
May 20 19:32:40 <Tofe> yes, I'm already on it
May 20 19:36:46 <Tofe> I'm putting 22pt for now
May 20 19:38:48 <Tofe> the magnifier is maybe a little bit too big, but that's fine for now. I needs to be big anyway.
May 20 19:38:58 <Tofe> Looks good on N4 --> merge
May 20 19:44:20 <Tofe> morphis: ping
May 20 19:45:40 <Herrie|2> Tofe: it was 32pt on legacy ;)
May 20 19:45:57 <Herrie|2> https://github.com/openwebos/keyboard-efigs/blob/master/src/PhoneKeyboard.cpp#L82
May 20 19:46:15 <Tofe> oops
May 20 19:47:24 <Tofe> wow, that's quite big
May 20 19:48:38 <Tofe> Herrie|2: you sure about the phone landscape ratio ? It looks a bit small for the height
May 20 19:50:01 <Herrie|2> https://github.com/openwebos/keyboard-efigs/blob/master/src/PhoneKeyboard.cpp#L231
May 20 19:50:05 <Herrie|2> Took it 1:!
May 20 19:50:06 <Herrie|2> 1:1
May 20 19:50:52 <Herrie|2> 260/768 = 0.3385
May 20 19:51:00 <Herrie|2> Might look odd on N4 due to widescreen
May 20 19:51:25 <Tofe> yes, might be that
May 20 19:52:00 <Tofe> ok, as soon as I have morphis under hand, I'll merge our work into master
May 20 19:52:16 <Tofe> the status is far better than the current master
May 20 19:52:57 <Tofe> (I just need him because we have to be careful with the bitbake recipe, and synchronize things)
May 20 20:02:47 <Tofe> Ok, I've prepared the merge. When you'll land in Albufeira, we'll have a beautiful new vkb !
May 20 20:02:56 <Herrie|2> :D
May 20 20:03:20 <Herrie|2> Still need to work out the ... button in symbols for phone but that's for later
May 20 20:04:00 <Tofe> yes, there'll always be room for improvement, but I think it's time to flush the big work we've done here
May 20 20:09:28 <Herrie|2> Yup :D
May 20 20:24:32 <morphis> Tofe: for what do you need me?
May 20 20:29:55 <Herrie|2> morphis: https://github.com/webOS-ports/webos-keyboard/pull/48 needs some bitbake adjustment probably as well
May 20 20:30:26 <Herrie|2> So we need help with bb that's probably either you or JaMa?
May 20 20:35:30 <morphis> Herrie|2: adjustments in which way?
May 20 20:35:55 <morphis> Herrie|2: so https://github.com/Tofee/meta-webos-ports/commit/5727b6944eed23e31881a7a2729d4242227acc45?
May 20 20:39:00 <morphis> Herrie|2: feel free to merge those things I can take care about the rest based on Tofe change
May 20 20:39:27 <Herrie|2> Yeah stuff like that
May 20 20:39:36 <Herrie|2> So can merge?
May 20 20:39:41 <Herrie|2> And you'll sort the rest?
May 20 20:39:56 <Herrie|2> It's mainly replacing ubuntu referencs with LuneOS across the whole thing ;)
May 20 20:40:12 <Herrie|2> Merged ;)
May 20 20:41:29 <Herrie|2> You'll like it ;)
May 20 20:41:37 <Herrie|2> N4 vkb based on 3.x one in OWO
May 20 20:41:37 <morphis> ok
May 20 20:41:42 <Herrie|2> And TP with number row :)
May 20 20:41:44 <morphis> on the phone one?
May 20 20:41:52 <Herrie|2> Yeah ;)
May 20 20:41:57 <morphis> great!
May 20 20:42:01 <Herrie|2> Black with white keys ;)
May 20 20:42:05 <morphis> btw. I have a change pending adding read-only support finally
May 20 20:42:33 <morphis> as developer you then have to do one extra step to be able to push a new cardshell or so
May 20 20:42:33 <Herrie|2> Phone will look like: http://www.webosnation.com/checking-out-galaxy-nexus-open-webos-port-virtual-keyboard-video
May 20 20:42:38 <morphis> mount -o remount,rw /
May 20 20:42:44 <morphis> nice
May 20 20:43:10 <morphis> ok, have to leave
May 20 20:44:08 <Herrie|2> OK :)
May 20 20:47:19 <Tofe> :) that was quick
May 20 20:47:37 <morphis> Tofe: what? the merge?
May 20 20:47:45 <Tofe> yes
May 20 20:49:58 <Herrie|2> I did it, morphis said we could go ahead ;)
May 20 20:50:00 <Herrie|2> He'll sort BB
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