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Jun 12 05:26:54 <Herrie> PatrickC: THere was a TP in that box too :P ?
Jun 12 05:27:01 <Herrie> YOu can put LuneoS on it :P
Jun 12 05:40:51 <PatrickC> Herrie: the TP wasn't in it :/
Jun 12 05:40:58 <PatrickC> but, i have them... 3 of 'em.. somewhere
Jun 12 05:42:30 <PatrickC> i need to talk to LarrySteeze about a project that he was involved with a LONG time ago....
Jun 12 05:42:45 <PatrickC> maybe i'll catch him on sometime (or he can send me a PM if he sees this and we'll catch up later)
Jun 12 05:45:17 <Herrie> PatrickC: Find one sometime ;) LuneOS is starting to look very good already ;)
Jun 12 05:45:26 <PatrickC> Herrie: i might have to :)
Jun 12 05:45:31 <PatrickC> i miss webOS, i truly do..
Jun 12 05:45:35 <Herrie> We did quite some work on the virtual keyboard recently :)
Jun 12 05:45:40 <Herrie> Looks very webOS-y now :D
Jun 12 05:45:44 <PatrickC> sometimes i think what might have happened to it had HP not bought Palm..
Jun 12 05:45:50 <PatrickC> i have a deep seated hatred for HP :P
Jun 12 05:46:28 <Herrie> Well they're not doing that well currently :P
Jun 12 17:17:50 <Herrie> nizovn: DK and SE layouts done, RU next :D
Jun 12 17:27:15 <nizovn> Herrie: :) it's almost good now, but has ukranian letter "i", i think it should become extended key for "и"
Jun 12 17:28:26 <nizovn> btw i think this is the most popular legacy ru layout : http://webos-forums.ru/download/file.php?id=1096&mode=view/h_1326881845_5595187_28f797dbde.png
Jun 12 17:30:57 <HaDAk> slavic languages have weird characters.
Jun 12 17:32:16 <Herrie> Do we have apatch file somewhere?
Jun 12 17:32:22 <Herrie> Or JSON layout for this?
Jun 12 17:41:00 <Herrie> This is how it looks: http://tinypic.com/r/ix61y8/8
Jun 12 17:47:21 <nizovn> Herrie: it looks good, so "ё","ъ" are under "e","ь"?
Jun 12 17:54:17 <Herrie|2> nizvon only е and ь have extended keys. е has ë and ь has ъ
Jun 12 17:54:43 <Herrie|2> I'll take that as basis for now we can always tweak later
Jun 12 17:54:49 <Herrie|2> It will have the trackball as well
Jun 12 17:55:02 <nizovn> nice :)
Jun 12 17:55:02 <Herrie|2> I'll make the trackball/arrows a Tweaks option I guess
Jun 12 17:55:21 <Herrie|2> Most people will probably like the trackball, but arrows might be favorable for some (like DougReeder ;))
Jun 12 17:55:39 <Herrie|2> Once i Have the standard layout ready I'll make an alternative for the thumb layout as proof of concept
Jun 12 17:55:42 <Herrie|2> Shouldn't be too hard
Jun 12 17:55:46 <Herrie|2> It's quite easy actually :)
Jun 12 17:55:48 * DougReeder nods
Jun 12 17:57:18 <Herrie|2> After you have a few layouts, creating the others is a lot quicker :D
Jun 12 18:00:14 <nizovn> Herrie|2: is it hard to make thumb keyboard transparent in the middle like this: http://help.nitrous.io/coding-on-ipad/ ?
Jun 12 18:01:49 <Herrie|2> nizovn: Yeah not that easy ;) It's currently a rectangle bg
Jun 12 18:01:53 <Herrie|2> We'd have to split it into 2
Jun 12 18:02:02 <Herrie|2> I guess you'd want to see the app through in the middle?
Jun 12 18:02:09 <Herrie|2> How's this for a phone layout? http://tinypic.com/r/5ds0n5/8
Jun 12 18:11:09 <nizovn> Herrie|2: "i" not needed, "у" should not have extended keys, labels on bottom row need some work (enter and +=[])
Jun 12 18:13:55 <nizovn> btw extended keys menu on phone layout styled for phone too? i mean is it black?
Jun 12 18:15:59 <Herrie|2> Nizovn, no it's grey
Jun 12 18:16:05 <Herrie|2> There's no styling for it on legacy
Jun 12 18:16:14 <Herrie|2> You can try on QT Creator if you want
Jun 12 18:19:55 <Herrie|2> nizovn: Yes font needs a little smaller I guess for bottom row
Jun 12 18:23:25 <Tofe> nizovn: having transparency could be tricky, we can try some day, but I right now I don't think of a way that wouldn't be an awful hack
Jun 12 18:23:36 <Tofe> (like faking the height of the vkb)
Jun 12 18:25:06 <nizovn> Tofe: ok
Jun 12 18:26:19 <nizovn> Herrie|2: i tried it, so there is no plan to style it?
Jun 12 18:27:03 <Herrie|2> nizovn: There's nothing currently ;) But can look at it later
Jun 12 18:27:12 <nizovn> Herrie|2: i think on phone layout it's better to move "ъ" key under "ь", and give move space to enter
Jun 12 18:27:58 <Herrie|2> nizovn: OK can do that
Jun 12 18:30:09 <nizovn> well not only to enter, maybe to +[]= and language key as well
Jun 12 18:31:58 <Herrie|2> Yeah
Jun 12 18:37:54 <Herrie> nizovn: Better? http://tinypic.com/r/2im5r0m/8
Jun 12 18:42:30 <nizovn> Herrie: yes, thanks. i was wrong we can put "i" under "и" so Ukrainians can fully use it
Jun 12 18:45:22 <Herrie> Ah :)
Jun 12 18:45:36 <Herrie> I'll have a look sometime to change that ;)
Jun 12 18:45:42 <Herrie> Will probably be tomorrow
Jun 12 18:46:07 <Herrie> You mean "i" as extended for "и" ?
Jun 12 18:46:19 <nizovn> Herrie: thanks a lot, it's symbolic you are working on this layout in Russia day :)
Jun 12 18:46:25 <nizovn> yes, extended
Jun 12 19:40:46 <nizovn> Tofe: btw another reason to rework touch handling on vkb: i think we will have to create swype keyboard at some point in time(heard it's quite popular)
Jun 12 19:44:04 <Tofe> nizovn: wow, ok, yes that'll be quite a challenge :)
Jun 12 19:48:56 <Herrie> Don't the Ubuntu/Jolla guys have it already?
Jun 12 19:49:07 <Herrie> It should be maliit in general not really our VKB stuff
Jun 12 20:52:53 <nizovn> it also will be nice to choose layouts like on legacy: not to display all supported layouts,
Jun 12 20:52:54 <nizovn> but "register" only needed, e.g. check them in tweaks or settings.
Jun 12 20:52:54 <nizovn> and also to cycle between them with single key press on language button
Jun 12 22:27:13 <Herrie> nizovn: Yes that's something to work on still. See how that was done on legacy and bring that implementation back, but that's relatively minor. A few LS2 calls probably and integrate those ;)
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