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Sep 06 07:18:31 <Herrie> Tofe: I guess the combination of your fix for the path and my increasing of the allowed DB size fixed the issue with Paper Mache app ;)
Sep 06 07:18:37 <Herrie> It now launches on latest nightly :D
Sep 06 07:24:45 <Herrie> I still have a few apps that break
Sep 06 07:25:03 <Herrie> Let me try the "Les Echos" one
Sep 06 07:36:22 <Herrie> Tofe: For "Les Echos" it seems that it uses a plugin an we don
Sep 06 07:36:27 <Herrie> 't support that.
Sep 06 07:37:03 <Herrie> For now it might be a good idea to make sure we deal with these properly by simply not trying to run them? These are indicated by "plug-ins": true in the appinfo.json
Sep 06 07:37:13 <Herrie> morphis: ^ What are your ideas?
Sep 06 07:51:04 <Herrie> For the various radio apps that don't work it seems also to be appinfo.json related
Sep 06 07:51:15 <Herrie> They all have "fqsn": "Global:Heart_Network:Heart_London" in there
Sep 06 07:51:30 <Herrie> Where fqsn is not in the official HP/Palm specs but does seem to work on legacy somehow?
Sep 06 09:01:19 <Tofe> Morning!
Sep 06 09:05:26 <Herrie> Tofe: morning
Sep 06 09:05:34 <Herrie> Saw my comments above?
Sep 06 09:05:41 <Herrie> I'm testing a bunch of more apps now ;)
Sep 06 09:05:49 <Tofe> Herrie: That's quite good news, we seem to have reached a point where many apps now run alright
Sep 06 09:06:02 <Herrie> Tofe: Yeah
Sep 06 09:06:17 <Herrie> We don't support the plugin kind currently.Hence the "Les Echos" doesn't work
Sep 06 09:06:27 <Tofe> What's a plugin actually?
Sep 06 09:06:30 <Herrie> But it currently breaks other stuff. So it would be good to deal with that more gracefully
Sep 06 09:06:48 <Herrie> It's a bit of a hybrid app I think where you have Enyo or Mojo + some compiled stuff
Sep 06 09:08:19 <Herrie> " Boolean: Set to True if your application requires the use of hybrid Plugins. Only available in webOS 2.x+ "
Sep 06 09:08:25 <Tofe> you mean C++ compiled stuff ?
Sep 06 09:08:40 <Herrie> Yeah
Sep 06 09:08:53 <Tofe> ah, that can't be good for us...
Sep 06 09:09:08 <Herrie> Yeah
Sep 06 09:09:40 <Herrie> Because it would use legacy SDK/PDK with Pslm hooks we don't have
Sep 06 09:09:57 <Tofe> yuyp, at best
Sep 06 09:10:20 <Tofe> at worst, it is just compiled for another arm architecture that we don't support
Sep 06 09:10:57 <Herrie> So in it's set to true in appinfo.json we shouldn't try to launch it and even better display a message to user (popup) that it's not supported
Sep 06 09:11:42 <Tofe> yes, that's a good idea for now I guess
Sep 06 09:11:59 <Tofe> (and maybe for later, also, if there's no good solution to this)
Sep 06 09:12:03 <Herrie> Because currently because it doesn't launch it breaks the power menu etc ;)
Sep 06 09:12:09 <Herrie> And that's nasty
Sep 06 09:12:16 <Tofe> yup
Sep 06 09:12:18 <Herrie> Not sure to what extend it would be difficult to get a popup to show
Sep 06 09:12:38 <Tofe> LunaAppMgr is on the front line
Sep 06 09:12:55 <Tofe> Best to stop before we started anything
Sep 06 09:13:37 <Herrie> Yes
Sep 06 09:13:57 <Tofe> So LunaAppMgr would get a status from the ApplicationDescription, see that it's an error, and send a message on LS2 to require a popupalert or something
Sep 06 09:19:54 <Herrie> Tofe: Yes
Sep 06 09:19:57 <Herrie> Something like that
Sep 06 09:20:04 <Herrie> Shouldn't be too hard right?
Sep 06 09:20:23 <Herrie> You want me to send you the offending IPK to test with?
Sep 06 09:32:23 <Tofe> if you wish, otherwise I can just modify an existing appinfo
Sep 06 09:43:54 <Herrie> On it's way
Sep 06 09:46:11 <Tofe> ok thx
Sep 06 09:53:23 <Herrie> Tofe: I guess the other issue we have with apps not launching and breaking stuff is the "onStageReadyTimeout()" kicking in sometimes?
Sep 06 09:55:23 <Herrie> Tofe: Found another issue with some app that doesn't want to launch: "Sep 06 05:53:55 mako LunaWebAppManager[1505]: ** (process:1603): WARNING **: isAllowedFileAccess: *** NOT ALLOWING FILE ACCESS ***   caller: .media.cryptofs.apps.usr.palm.applications.com.postmedia.touchpaper.starphoenix.index.html   target: /media/cryptofs/apps/usr/palm/applications/com.postmedia.touchpaper.ottawaciti
Sep 06 09:55:23 <Herrie> zen/index.html"
Sep 06 10:00:31 <Tofe> Speaking of which, I'd like to know the rational for the onStageReadyTimeout introduction
Sep 06 10:00:33 <Tofe> morphis: ^
Sep 06 10:17:01 <Herrie> Tofe: Above error might be solved with enabling: experimental.preferences.fileAccessFromFileURLsAllowed? Let me see what the apps code tries to do
Sep 06 10:18:39 <Tofe> mmh we have to be careful with that one
Sep 06 10:18:46 <Herrie> Yeah....
Sep 06 10:18:51 <Herrie> Let me check the app code first
Sep 06 10:20:49 <Herrie> Hmmz this also uses custom appinfo.json fields...
Sep 06 10:21:06 <Herrie> this.$.advert.setUrl("http://ad.mo.doubleclick.net/dartproxy/mobile.handler?k=" + enyo.appInfo.pmAdSite + "/index;sz=185x50;nk=ccn;pr=" + enyo.appInfo.pmAdPr + ";ck=index;page=index&r=h&t=i&c=n&forecast=1")
Sep 06 10:21:25 <Herrie> where pmAdSite and pmAdPr are custom fields in the appinfo.json
Sep 06 10:22:41 <Herrie> Already found apps from different devs now that use this
Sep 06 10:22:49 <Herrie> Seems it's not really documented though :P
Sep 06 10:58:49 <Herrie> nizovn: Nice work on the scroll indicator
Sep 06 10:59:18 <nizovn> i just copied it :)
Sep 06 11:02:40 <nizovn> but it shows how we can get access to flickable part of webview, if needed
Sep 06 11:23:10 <Herrie> nizovn: It's helpful for sure
Sep 06 11:59:12 <Herrie> Tofe: I've identified the problem is the call to appinfo.json
Sep 06 11:59:18 <Herrie> When I put in the hard values these apps work
Sep 06 12:04:14 <Tofe> what do you mean, putting the hard values?
Sep 06 12:08:14 <Herrie> Tofe: When I replace the enyo.appinfo.xxx with the actual value from appinfo.json so it doesn't use the enyo.appinfo.xxx calls
Sep 06 12:08:40 <Herrie> So this way I'm sure it's the call to enyo.appinfo.xxx which was causing the issue ;)
Sep 06 12:09:36 <Herrie> And not something else
Sep 06 12:10:06 <Tofe> ah ok :)
Sep 06 12:10:22 <Herrie> Seems there are quite some paths to which we need to allow file access
Sep 06 12:14:31 <Herrie> At least according to libWebkitLuna.so from legacy
Sep 06 12:18:29 <Tofe> But how can we control which paths are allowed/refused?
Sep 06 12:18:51 <Tofe> Or our infrastructure already does that, only we never authorize file access in WebView?
Sep 06 12:19:07 <Herrie> Not sure
Sep 06 12:19:14 <Herrie> I think morphis included some paths somewhere
Sep 06 12:19:18 <Herrie> I just don't remember where
Sep 06 12:22:43 <Herrie> Tofe: a/8
Sep 06 12:22:51 <Herrie> Oops: http://tinypic.com/r/2s0la3a/8
Sep 06 12:29:05 <Herrie> Tofe: There's this in OWO: https://github.com/openwebos/webappmanager/blob/d5d40487cc28bcf15ed2cc836b78de56920da22f/Src/webbase/SysMgrWebBridge.cpp#l488
Sep 06 12:29:14 <Herrie> Not sure where these paths then come into play though ;)
Sep 06 12:29:18 <Herrie> Let me see if I can find somewhere
Sep 06 12:33:40 <Herrie> Tofe: Hmmz https://github.com/webOS-ports/luna-webappmanager/blob/7d72fcc377d8175b61ce0bde3d0ed0ce8527bd39/src/webapplication.cpp#L72
Sep 06 12:34:48 <Tofe> ah! Well found! So, we actually do some checks
Sep 06 12:38:06 <Herrie> Yeah but it seems they don't work somehow
Sep 06 12:42:05 <Tofe> It's called from here https://github.com/webOS-ports/luna-webappmanager/blob/master/src/extensions/palmsystemextension.cpp#L214
Sep 06 12:43:52 <Tofe> Where is that isAllowedFileAccess function actually?
Sep 06 12:44:17 <Herrie> Tofe: Dunno
Sep 06 12:44:23 <Herrie> Could be it's not in there anywhere
Sep 06 12:45:16 <Herrie> Message must come from somewhere
Sep 06 12:47:28 <Herrie> I cannot find it :S
Sep 06 12:47:34 <Tofe> same here...
Sep 06 12:48:10 <Herrie> I checked all teh obvious places
Sep 06 12:49:06 <Herrie> Could be the fix needs to be somewhere here: https://github.com/webOS-ports/luna-webappmanager/blob/master/src/qml/ApplicationContainer.qml#L176
Sep 06 12:52:04 <Tofe> I don't understand the (webAppWindow.trustScope === "system") test
Sep 06 12:53:40 <Tofe> Ah, is that for webapps ?
Sep 06 12:54:00 <Tofe> (well, for limiting their rights)
Sep 06 12:55:22 <Herrie> Well it seems we limit certain access to system apps only while I think we should be less strict ;)
Sep 06 12:56:10 <Tofe> ok, I understand: system apps are the ones with a local URL (beginning with file://)
Sep 06 12:57:12 <Tofe> We are not limiting it, on the contrary, we give it the tools to make further calls
Sep 06 12:59:05 <Herrie> Let me send you an IPK that tests easier :P
Sep 06 12:59:16 <Tofe> maybe ye
Sep 06 12:59:18 <Tofe> s
Sep 06 13:02:02 <Herrie> Sent you 2
Sep 06 13:02:15 <Herrie> I guess when you add some debug info here and there you can see where it goes AWOL
Sep 06 13:02:48 <Herrie> Reboot brb
Sep 06 13:06:12 <Herrie> Back
Sep 06 13:08:40 <Tofe> It's true that the new apps are somehow placed at random in the app list...
Sep 06 13:09:55 <Tofe> luna::PalmSystemExtension::getResource(const QJsonArray&) QJsonArray(["file:///usr/palm/applications/com.postmedia.touchpaper.ottawacitizen/appinfo.json","const json"]) --> refused
Sep 06 13:10:51 <Tofe> getting a resource from its own install path seems reasonable enough...
Sep 06 13:13:53 <Tofe> I'd like to add that path in the list of allowed paths
Sep 06 13:14:22 <Herrie> Yes
Sep 06 13:17:20 <Tofe> mmh   mUnprivilegedAppPaths << "/var/usr/palm/applications/"; <-- how can that be right ?
Sep 06 13:19:42 <Tofe> Wait, there is something strange...
Sep 06 13:19:50 <Tofe> I see ' mPrivilegedAppPaths << "/usr/palm/applications/";  // Palm apps'
Sep 06 13:20:33 <Tofe> is the app supposed to be priviledged, here ?
Sep 06 13:26:34 <Herrie> Not sure in what path it's installed?
Sep 06 13:26:43 <Herrie> usr/palm/applications/com.postmedia.touchpaper.ottawacitizen/ looks odd to me
Sep 06 13:26:52 <Tofe> me too
Sep 06 13:26:53 <Herrie> It should be something in cryptofs I think?
Sep 06 13:27:05 <Tofe> yeah, but it's in usr/palm/apps
Sep 06 13:27:25 <Tofe> same for lesechos
Sep 06 13:27:30 <Herrie> Hmmz
Sep 06 13:27:36 <Herrie> Let me check the IPK
Sep 06 13:27:39 <Tofe> and weather-widget
Sep 06 13:28:14 <Herrie> You used Preware to install?
Sep 06 13:28:18 <Herrie> Or OPKG INSTALL?
Sep 06 13:28:21 <Tofe> opkg
Sep 06 13:30:26 <Tofe> it's much happier with its resources
Sep 06 13:30:39 <Tofe> I think the website has changed its API though
Sep 06 13:31:29 <Tofe> but yeah, in the end it should be in cryptofs
Sep 06 13:32:01 <Herrie> I use Preware
Sep 06 13:32:24 <Tofe> I installed trello app using preware, and it is in cryptofs
Sep 06 13:32:29 <Herrie> Yeah
Sep 06 13:32:35 <Herrie> My apps are in cryptofs
Sep 06 13:32:37 <Tofe> let me redo the install using preware
Sep 06 13:32:44 <Herrie> I only have our in usr/palm
Sep 06 13:33:23 <Herrie> And my N4 is LOADED with apps using Preware ;)
Sep 06 13:36:18 <Tofe> ok, it's in cryptofs
Sep 06 13:36:22 <Tofe> and it seems to work
Sep 06 13:39:14 <Tofe> Triggering onStageReadyTimeout is a disaster
Sep 06 13:42:30 <Herrie> Yeah not sure why that's there and what it does
Sep 06 13:47:43 <Herrie> But it breaks other stuff which is not good
Sep 06 13:49:08 <Herrie> I'm not sure if the apps are functional: IE API's could be broken, but they should at least still run and not break other stuff in the system
Sep 06 13:52:05 <Tofe> I think it's because if we don't call that callback, then we won't be able to visualize/destroy the app
Sep 06 13:54:07 <Tofe> I already changed the limit from 100ms to 3s
Sep 06 13:55:13 <Tofe> Ideally, we should be able to show the loading card while it's... loading
Sep 06 13:57:38 <Tofe> Moreover, it's strange, because it's not even about waiting for the app to load, it's just waiting for the appId to be here
Sep 06 14:23:16 <Herrie> Tofe: Yeah ;) I'm sure you'll be able to make it work more properly ;)
Sep 06 14:27:14 <nizovn> maybe wrong, but i "remember" that onStageReadyTimeout was used to solve bug where just type was opening as white screen, will see in logs
Sep 06 14:45:24 <Tofe> nizovn: apparently it was done at the same time, yes, when reworking card visibility trigger
Sep 06 14:48:04 <Herrie> ka6sox/morphis: ping
Sep 06 14:48:15 <Herrie> Seems I don't have write access to changelog repo still: https://github.com/webOS-ports/changelog/pull/13
Sep 06 14:50:15 <nizovn> Tofe: ok
Sep 06 14:52:31 <Tofe> nizovn: https://github.com/webOS-ports/luna-webappmanager/commit/cd03e00721dd50e9b3e569b72fe6f29784872695
Sep 06 15:11:24 <Tofe> Herrie: are all the recent commits taken into account in meta-webos-ports?
Sep 06 15:11:58 <Tofe> My current build is a mess with all the recent changes, and I'd like to refresh it
Sep 06 15:40:59 <Herrie> Tofe: I'm keeping track of things manually since morphis' script isn't there yet, but yes should all be there
Sep 06 15:41:05 <Herrie> Latest nightly was OK
Sep 06 15:41:20 <Herrie> About to run stable now, but cannot because I don't have changelog merge access it seems
Sep 06 15:41:43 <Tofe> ok
Sep 06 15:42:06 <Herrie> I thought morphis sorted that last month, but I guess not ;)
Sep 06 15:42:17 <Herrie> So need someone to merge it for me or give me access ;)
Sep 06 15:43:44 <Tofe> I see
Sep 06 15:45:10 <Tofe> Currently I'm trying to make so that closing a window won't also close its children dashboards, but so far I'm only getting luna-webappmanager to crash :)
Sep 06 15:50:15 <Herrie> Tofe: Ah ;)
Sep 06 15:50:22 <Herrie> WEll I'm sure you get there :D
Sep 06 16:15:00 <Tofe> Herrie: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4679068/luna-next/luna-webappmanager_0.2.0-8%2Bgit2%2Bd458383343-r0.8_armv7a-vfp-neon.ipk <-- with this, the weather main window can be closed safely
Sep 06 16:17:04 <Tofe> Corresponding PR: https://github.com/webOS-ports/luna-webappmanager/pull/32 <-- testing needed, I think. I tried many scenarios on N4, but who knows
Sep 06 16:29:17 <Herrie> Tofe: Testing now :D
Sep 06 16:42:27 <Tofe> Herrie: It seems the Google Maps webapp doesn't work anymore.
Sep 06 17:24:55 <Herrie> TOfe: 72ka's Enyo2  app or the one in Preware?
Sep 06 17:28:40 <Tofe> The one that we can install in Preware
Sep 06 17:37:58 <Herrie> Could be useragent or something
Sep 06 17:38:04 <Herrie> Or we call to a wrong API or something
Sep 06 18:06:16 <ka6sox> Herrie, pong?
Sep 06 18:06:34 <ka6sox> the changelog repo is used by the autobuilder for reporting
Sep 06 18:16:29 <Herrie> ka6sox: I need to merge the changelogs there for each release ;)
Sep 06 18:17:01 <ka6sox> understood...I'm out today (BBQ) so I can do this tonight or tomorrow morning for me.
Sep 06 18:23:22 <Herrie> OK
Sep 06 18:23:30 <Herrie> Tofe: I see no regressions in general
Sep 06 18:24:43 <Tofe> Herrie: ok; I'm still not very proud of the way I've handled this, maybe morphis could take a look at my PR?
Sep 06 18:32:06 <Herrie> If he's around ;)
Sep 06 18:32:18 <Herrie> Well it seems to work and doesn't seem to break other things
Sep 06 18:32:21 <Herrie> So not too bad
Sep 06 18:32:37 <Herrie> I tried PoplaterCE as well (without WiFi connection) to get the dash and it's OK there too :D
Sep 06 18:35:26 <Herrie> I think it is a little buggy though
Sep 06 18:35:50 <Herrie> When I leave the dash open and relaunch the app it locks up a bit
Sep 06 18:36:01 <Herrie> Also the resizing of dash content is not proper it seems
Sep 06 22:13:15 <Tofe> Resising of dash content?
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