**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Dec 09 03:00:26 2015 Dec 09 06:47:45 morning Dec 09 06:48:08 Tofe: Yeah it's a sad few weeks for open source with Jolla's news and FirefoxOS :S Dec 09 06:48:40 I never was a really big fan of FirefoxOS itself, but it's the spiritual successor of webOS in many ways, so it feels sad to see it go. Dec 09 07:53:23 JaMa: ping Dec 09 08:33:31 Herrie: pong Dec 09 08:35:05 Morning Dec 09 08:59:40 JaMa: Seems we have some sstate issues with stable build Dec 09 08:59:45 Can you have a look? Dec 09 08:59:50 Could be due to last week's issues? Dec 09 09:08:27 checking Dec 09 09:09:28 it's annoying that the errors are shown, but you can ignore them Dec 09 09:09:57 it just means the fetch failed and it had to run the actual task Dec 09 09:10:05 next build should work fine Dec 09 09:10:20 Ah ok Dec 09 09:10:27 That's confusing :P Dec 09 09:10:44 So it will actually create the images this time or I need to re-run when it's done? Dec 09 09:14:13 images should be created Dec 09 09:26:00 JaMa: OK :) Confusing then it ends with a red status LOL :P Dec 09 14:33:52 JaMa: you still around? Seems stable build finished and rsync too but I see no files on server? Dec 09 14:43:46 checking Dec 09 14:45:58 I see some images here: http://build.webos-ports.org/luneos-stable-staging/wip/images/ Dec 09 14:46:06 did you expect other ones? Dec 09 14:50:59 Sorry must have been looking in wrong folder. was looking in the luneos-stable folder Dec 09 18:47:26 ping Herrie Dec 09 18:47:49 Herrie: I have an ipk for Settings I'd like you to try. Dec 09 18:48:12 Herrie: Nothing finished. Just with some extra logging. Dec 09 18:48:28 Herrie: What's the best way to get the ipk to you? e-mail? Dec 09 19:02:38 elvispre: Yeah that would do Dec 09 19:02:42 me at herrie dot org Dec 09 19:42:36 Luxury problems, cannot find my mako... Dec 09 19:42:51 Anyone chance to test the Nexus 4 image to see if it runs OK and no odd things? Dec 09 19:43:35 http://build.webos-ports.org/luneos-stable-staging/wip/images/mako/luneos-dev-package-mako.zip Dec 09 19:43:49 I'm testing qemux86, Maguro and Tenderloin Dec 09 19:47:22 Herrie: I'll fetch that image and try it on my N4 in a minute. Dec 09 19:47:45 elvispre: Thnx Dec 09 19:47:53 SHouldn't be anything shocking in general ;) Dec 09 19:47:56 Just good to have checked :) Dec 09 19:48:11 Should be the same as last nightly more or less Dec 09 20:01:10 elvispre: Any reason why I couldn't use palm-package on the folder as usual? Dec 09 20:01:21 I prefer that over ipk packager because it performs some additional checks Dec 09 20:01:54 While testing LuneTube I found out that the author used ipk packager and that's why he never spotted an error that caused palm-package to refuse it Dec 09 20:02:16 Herrie: You could, I could. I just don't have palm-package any more; and I'm working on Linux not Windows for this stuff. Dec 09 20:03:07 elvispre: Ah ok Dec 09 20:03:09 On Win10 here Dec 09 20:03:24 I'll try palm-package, it's easier with a single command LOL ;) Dec 09 20:03:29 saves me clicks & hassles Dec 09 20:03:51 I grabbed whole HP site before it went down, so if you need something Dec 09 20:04:15 I'm thinking of repackaging the 3.0.5 and 2.2.x SDK so it'll work with VirtualBox > 4.1 ;) Dec 09 20:04:22 Herrie: I don't quite follow. How can you use palm-package when I have sent you an ipk? Dec 09 20:04:30 elvispre: Ah :P Dec 09 20:04:53 Herrie: I can just send you the patched source files... Dec 09 20:04:56 DIdn't read you sent me IPK, was quickly glancing true ;) Dec 09 20:05:02 through even Dec 09 20:05:11 Was up too early and head is congested LOL Dec 09 20:05:16 :) Dec 09 20:05:54 Also still tempted to create a custom Doctor for Veer, Pre 3 and TP with latest critical patches & fixes embedded, bypass activation etc Dec 09 20:06:50 Just need time LOL Dec 09 20:06:58 Toddler eats energy LOL Dec 09 20:07:07 Getting up at 5-ish daily doesn't help Dec 09 20:07:11 Herrie: On my way to Windows 10, I tidied up and removed various things including the WebOS SDK. Maybe I didn't need to. I probably still have the installer on my NAS. Dec 09 20:07:48 Herrie: Self-inflicted fun! Dec 09 20:09:33 elvispre: I'm a morning person so it's OK, just anything before 5:30 is even too early for me LOL Dec 09 20:09:46 In case you need anything, I have pretty much whatever you need, so just give me a shout :P Dec 09 20:10:08 elvispre: Did a clean install earlier this week on the 480GB new shiny SSD :D Dec 09 20:10:23 On the old one I had an updated Win7->Win10 Dec 09 20:10:24 Herrie: "I don't mind getting up in the morning. It's getting up in the middle of the night that bothers me." Dec 09 20:10:46 elvispre: Nah even that's OK. I sleep when I hit my pillow more or less :P Dec 09 20:11:33 So the getting up couple a times a night when he was a small baby didn't affect me much ;) Dec 09 20:12:37 I have a ton of WiFi networks here in the building, so will give the IPK a try in a bit. Dec 09 20:14:37 Herrie: Cool, thanks. That will give me more information to work with. Dec 09 20:15:47 Making some tea atm let me do it right now Dec 09 20:17:26 * Fights with Ubuntu VM access to Windows 10 network shares... then discovers that he can just drag and drop his downloaded file into the VM :P Dec 09 20:22:08 elvispre: You need to do soem trick in the Ubuntu VM Dec 09 20:22:11 To add the user Dec 09 20:22:15 I had the same issue Dec 09 20:22:51 Herrie: It was working an hour ago. This is after some suspends and reboots. Dec 09 20:23:24 It might work better if I upgraded my VMware Workstation. Dec 09 20:24:27 Now I've got this device is in use by another virtual machine. (It isn't. There isn't one!) Dec 09 20:27:12 And now it turns out that drag and drop only did a partial copy. Grrrrr! Dec 09 20:27:34 * elvispre is now just downloading the image directly in the Linux machine. Dec 09 20:28:09 elvispre: Yeah LOL Dec 09 20:28:26 Seems my maguro doesn't see the IEEE802.1x Dec 09 20:28:37 Need to test it later on TP or N4 if I find it LOL Dec 09 20:28:48 Sent you my log anyway Dec 09 20:29:04 I ended up just adb push-ing the build folder over Dec 09 20:29:23 Somehow IPK I installed with Preware didn't work. I guess it doesn't put it in /usr/palm/applications Dec 09 20:29:33 Might need to do ipkg install instead Dec 09 20:29:43 Anyway adb push worked fine as usual Dec 09 20:30:09 Herrie: So you can unpack the ipk on your host machine? Dec 09 20:30:40 elvispre: Yeah I use 7zip for that ;) Dec 09 20:30:57 Gives me some data.tar and then usr/palm/applications folder structure :P Dec 09 20:31:51 Well, I thought this whole process would be interesting. Dec 09 20:32:09 *Finally* sideloading that new image now. Dec 09 20:32:34 elvispre: I usually just take a GH dump, use node to minify and adb push to get it to device :P Dec 09 20:32:43 Quickest and easiest way :P Dec 09 20:32:53 Pretty much foolproof :P Dec 09 20:33:06 But how do you get that to someone else? Dec 09 20:33:37 Could just zip it up, I suppose. I was trying to be fancy. Dec 09 20:34:00 s/fancy/professional :) Dec 09 20:35:34 elvispre: I think Preware only puts stuff in cryptofs, nothing in usr/palm Dec 09 20:35:43 While ipkg install puts it only in usr/palm I think Dec 09 20:35:48 But might be wrong Dec 09 20:36:02 We get it to users by including it in an image usually LOL Dec 09 20:36:54 Herrie: Sounds about right. Initially with Calculator I was using ipks. Immediately after installation it would run mine, but after a reboot the official version took precedence. Dec 09 20:37:46 elvispre: That sounds about right :P Dec 09 20:37:54 Hence I use adb push mostly ;) Dec 09 20:38:02 :) Dec 09 20:38:13 Most apps have something similar: https://github.com/webOS-ports/org.webosports.app.settings/blob/master/build-and-deploy.sh Dec 09 20:38:39 Actually, this is something that crops up when dealing with enyo 1 apps. Dec 09 20:38:56 Just need to make sure that deploy.json has all the right info as well ;) Dec 09 20:39:03 They look pretty similar to enyo 2 apps until you try to deploy them... Dec 09 20:39:11 Otherwise you deploy/org.webosports.app.xxxxx doesn't have appinfo.json etc Dec 09 20:41:12 adb push turns out to be straightforward, but I wouldn't know where to start to get an ipk for an enyo 1 app Dec 09 20:41:46 elvispre: This is where palm-package comes in :P Dec 09 20:41:56 Yup! Dec 09 20:43:09 Herrie: Your email arrived. You don't even see any "wep"s. Dec 09 20:43:23 At least not this evening. Dec 09 20:45:49 Amount of networks seems limited, will try on other devices once I finish some translation stuff for the mrs Dec 09 20:46:30 Herrie: Oh that's fine. I'm off to get something to eat in a minute anyway. Dec 09 20:48:44 :) Dec 09 20:51:29 Herrie: The new dev image has booted and is behaving as sanely as usual. I'm connected to my wifi and running several apps simultaneously. Dec 09 20:53:06 Hmmm. The Google Maps Web Application does what my own little bootplate-derived app does: displays a white pane and nothing else. Dec 09 20:55:10 I think that is part of "as sanely as usual", currently. Dec 09 20:55:17 Hehe ;) Dec 09 20:59:28 Btw, I don't know if anyone else noticed (or cares), but Clock alarms trigger at the specified times. If we had working audio for them that would be awesome. Dec 09 21:07:27 elvispre: theoretically audio SHOULD work. I guess we just need to feed it the right files :P Dec 09 21:08:19 Herrie: If I fiddle with the volume, I hear beeps, yes. Quite a few things are nearly complete. Dec 09 21:09:18 If I could use my N4 as my alarm clock I would start to do so right now. Dec 09 21:09:47 Start making it my daily driver, at least for something. Dec 09 21:10:12 elvispre: Well we still have the locking up display that should be solved with Qt 5.6 hopefully Dec 09 21:10:25 Seems Qt's dbus implementation is broken and will be fixed in 5.6 only Dec 09 21:10:27 Yeah, I say Tofe say that. Dec 09 21:10:50 I've probably seen the lock-up a couple of times myself. Dec 09 21:11:17 Yeah it happens here consistently just time before it happens varies Dec 09 21:11:24 And across all targets it seems Dec 09 21:11:35 Seen it on TP, N4 and Nexus Dec 09 21:13:04 Lots of things are "almost" there, just lot of things depend on each other as well :P Dec 09 21:13:28 There are very few things that are not somehow connected to other things Dec 09 21:14:55 Right, I'm off out. Might catch you later. Bye. Dec 09 21:16:37 bye Dec 09 22:14:09 JaMa: When you have a chance, seems merely cosmetic: http://jenkins.nas-admin.org/view/luneos-stable/job/luneos-stable_feeds-new-staging/lastBuild/console Dec 09 22:14:16 CAn you see why we still have Dora there? Dec 09 22:14:23 Should be Fido imho? Dec 09 22:31:38 JaMa: Also http://jenkins.nas-admin.org/job/luneos-stable_release/lastFailedBuild/console seems we cannot provide an empty value for UNSUPPORTED_MACHINES. I used a space now but that's nasty ;) **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Dec 10 02:59:59 2015