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Jan 04 08:09:21 <Herrie|Veer> morning
Jan 04 08:41:42 <Herrie|Veer> Tofe: ping
Jan 04 08:49:45 <Tofe> morning!
Jan 04 08:49:48 <Tofe> Herrie|Veer: pong
Jan 04 08:50:03 <Herrie|Veer> Tofe: morning!
Jan 04 08:50:05 <Tofe> Herrie|Veer: I saw your mail; my suspicions go to the keepAlive method
Jan 04 08:50:09 <Herrie|Veer> I sent you some log ;)
Jan 04 08:51:21 <Herrie|Veer> Tofe: Not sure. I know you fixed it for the other functions by making sure there is always a value passed in the js file in luna-webappmanager. Seems you covered all cases there.
Jan 04 08:51:31 <Herrie|Veer> Could be this one would need adding, not sure :p
Jan 04 08:51:46 <Herrie|Veer> With WebInspector not running difficult to trace...
Jan 04 08:52:32 <Tofe> With this kind of TypeError, I would suspect other source of problem, for instance we would try calling a callback when there isn't any
Jan 04 08:55:19 <Herrie|Veer> Hopefully should get my new motherboard tonight and pc will be back working :P
Jan 04 08:57:15 <Herrie|Veer> So can debug with a device :)
Jan 04 08:57:29 <Herrie|Veer> Tofe: Had any chance to look into the luna-next bits?
Jan 04 08:59:37 <Tofe> Herrie|Veer: not yet, I wanted to have a fresh build to test all this, and it took nearly all my sunday :p
Jan 04 08:59:51 <Tofe> but now it's ready
Jan 04 09:00:04 <Herrie|Veer> :)
Jan 04 09:00:37 <Herrie|Veer> OK, I've been debugging icons a bit. I'm a bit lost as to what happens in LNC for the various kinds of banners, dashboards, popups etc :P
Jan 04 09:00:45 <Herrie|Veer> But will get my head around it.
Jan 04 09:48:52 <DougReeder> Morning
Jan 04 09:49:08 <Herrie|Veer> DougReeder: Morning ;)
Jan 04 09:49:52 <Herrie|Veer> We're getting our heads around fixing the missing and incorrect banner/dashboard implementations ;)
Jan 04 09:50:27 <Herrie|Veer> So we'll be able to do something with the soundClass and soundFile :)
Jan 04 09:51:14 <DougReeder> Nice
Jan 04 09:52:08 <Herrie|Veer> DougReeder: Yeah we needed a bit of rework for the SMS notifications anyway ;)
Jan 04 09:52:18 <Herrie|Veer> So decided to tackle them at once :)
Jan 04 09:52:43 <DougReeder> What was neede for SMS notifications?
Jan 04 09:54:08 <Herrie|Veer> DougReeder: Well we needed the c++ org.webosports.notification API to be extended a bit ;) Also the icon handling needs some work (i.e. miniicon (Banner) and smallIcon (Dashboard) need to be taken care of properly.
Jan 04 09:54:45 <Herrie|Veer> Also the notifcation api was expecting a single launchParam where there could be multiple.
Jan 04 09:55:01 <DougReeder> Ah
Jan 04 09:55:36 <Herrie|Veer> It was taken from Jolla, so was expected it needed a little work
Jan 04 12:46:20 <KyleMaas> Are Accounts, Clock, and Email the only apps that are still used from core-apps?
Jan 04 13:22:16 <KyleMaas> Herrie|Veer: Are Accounts, Clock, and Email the only apps that are still used from core-apps?
Jan 04 13:24:00 <Herrie|Veer> KyleMaas: Yes for now. I think it might be a good idea to test Calendar to see if it's workable since Enyo 2 one still needs lots of work. Calculator we got a nice rotatable one in Enyo 2 thanks to elvispre :)
Jan 04 13:24:30 <Herrie|Veer> Contacts Enyo 2 needs some work still but it's in pretty OK shape already I think.
Jan 04 13:24:46 <Herrie|Veer> The Notes Enyo 2 rewrite is fine too more or less :)
Jan 04 13:44:10 <KyleMaas> Herrie|Veer: Do we have any way to search for bugs for a particular app in the bug tracker?
Jan 04 13:44:52 <KyleMaas> Or is planning and bug tracking for those apps handled entirely using the task lists in the README files for each app (which I've seen in a few cases and wondered how up-to-date they were)?
Jan 04 13:44:54 <Herrie|Veer> KyleMaas: Not really I think let me check
Jan 04 13:46:15 <Herrie|Veer> We have an apps subcategory in the issue tracker but stopped using that a while ago I think. Might be good to bring it back to live sometime in future
Jan 04 14:00:51 <Herrie|Veer> Seems it was disabled for public. Enabled it again and will move Apps related bugs/features there from the generic trackers
Jan 04 14:03:01 <KyleMaas> Herrie|Veer: If you could add a subcategory for each of the apps, I think it would help a lot for organizing task lists for them.
Jan 04 14:03:14 <KyleMaas> Or even tags which could be attached to bugs within the Apps category.
Jan 04 14:03:49 <Herrie|Veer> KyleMaas: We used to use Trello for tracking these things
Jan 04 14:04:22 <Herrie|Veer> Eventually we'd need to migrate away from ChiliProjects as well since it's no longer maintained but that's not high priority
Jan 04 14:06:24 <KyleMaas> Would be awfully nice if there was one place that could be counted on to be up-to-date with what people would like to see done to an app.
Jan 04 14:07:08 <Herrie|Veer> KyleMaas: Yeah
Jan 04 14:13:08 <Herrie|Veer> Might be good to just create an issue for each app which contains it's to-do list?
Jan 04 17:19:20 <Herrie|Veer> Tofe: ping
Jan 04 17:53:47 <JaMa> Herrie|Veer: I would like to upgrade our jenkins builders to 14.04, that will cause our sstate to be also generated for 14.04 instead of 12.04
Jan 04 17:54:12 <JaMa> Herrie|Veer: any strong objections?
Jan 04 17:56:17 <Herrie|Veer> JaMa: No, just how long will it take?
Jan 04 17:56:51 <JaMa> few hours, but will start tomorrow or day after that
Jan 04 17:56:58 <JaMa> after my current jenkins builds are finished
Jan 04 17:59:34 <Herrie|Veer> JaMa: OK, we should push a release out sometime but that could be done at end of week or weekend.
Jan 04 17:59:37 <Tofe> Herrie|Veer: piong
Jan 04 18:00:24 <Herrie|Veer> Tofe: You know if NotificationItem.qml is still used in LNC? Seems to depend on notifType which I cannot see in luna-next or elsewhere?
Jan 04 18:00:45 <Tofe> Herrie|Veer: mmh good question
Jan 04 18:01:09 <Tofe> qml/Notifications/NotificationArea.qml:127:
Jan 04 18:01:47 <Herrie|Veer> I added logging to see if it ever gets called but it doesn't with any of the Testr scenarios
Jan 04 18:05:54 <Tofe> Herrie|Veer: you need a notification of type "notification" ==> you should try pushing some dbus notification
Jan 04 18:07:13 <Tofe> A "notification" is a banner with an expiration time: var createStickyNotification = ( typeof notifObject.expireTimeout !== 'undefined' && notifObject.expireTimeout > 1 )
Jan 04 18:18:51 <Tofe> Herrie|Veer: I'm now investigating the notification issues
Jan 04 18:26:42 <Herrie|Veer> Tofe: Ah OK I'll play a bit with that then.
Jan 04 18:27:31 <Herrie|Veer> with dbus you mean the luna-send org.webosports.notification/create call? Or.... ?
Jan 04 18:29:01 <Herrie|Veer> Tofe: Once you have luna-next part worked out I'll test my logics in LNC for the smallIcon and miniicon.
Jan 04 18:29:09 <Tofe> yes, with expireTimeout
Jan 04 18:32:30 <Herrie|Veer> Already have something here ready more or less :) Should mimic legacy implementation better :)
Jan 04 18:34:38 <Tofe> I've sorted out the launchParam "object" issue
Jan 04 18:34:49 <Tofe> going to the soundFile one
Jan 04 18:35:25 <Herrie|Veer> Tofe :) They should be fairly straightforward for someone who speaks C++ :P
Jan 04 18:35:38 <Tofe> The first one was a QML issue :p
Jan 04 18:35:54 <JaMa> Herrie|Veer: actually I can upgrade bonaire now and aruba later, so I'll start on it now
Jan 04 18:36:32 <Herrie|Veer> Tofe: OK :P
Jan 04 18:36:44 <Herrie|Veer> JaMa: Also fine :)
Jan 04 18:40:35 <Tofe> Herrie|Veer: looks like Qt doesn't have any default implementation of a url to string conversion; therefore any stringify attempt on a url will result in a "{}" string
Jan 04 18:40:59 <Tofe> So... let's just use strings.
Jan 04 18:42:06 <Tofe> Or, better, I'll do a string accessor on the notification object
Jan 04 18:50:34 <Tofe> Herrie|Veer: did you already do the sound output for the notification, or not yet?
Jan 04 18:50:58 <Tofe> I can do that on the fly
Jan 04 18:51:33 <Herrie|Veer> Tofe: OK. I tried sound with Audio but didn't work for me. I only tried with a .wav maybe that was the problem. I looked at volume sound.
Jan 04 18:51:40 <Herrie|Veer> And basically copied that
Jan 04 18:51:46 <Herrie|Veer> Somehow didn't work for me.
Jan 04 18:51:47 <Tofe> ok
Jan 04 18:52:14 <Herrie|Veer> Imported QtMultimedia. But really only gave it a single shot.
Jan 04 18:58:40 <Herrie|Veer> Tofe: Fix for the DevicePixelRatio looks good :)
Jan 04 18:59:11 <Tofe> hehe
Jan 04 18:59:17 <Tofe> Didn't try it yet
Jan 04 18:59:37 <Herrie|Veer> Tofe: Ah :)
Jan 04 18:59:44 <Herrie|Veer> But theoretically should work :P
Jan 04 18:59:51 <Herrie|Veer> Doesn't look too shocking :)
Jan 04 18:59:57 <Tofe> exactly
Jan 04 19:00:51 <Tofe> Ok, let me rebuiild WAM, luna-next and LNC and test all this
Jan 04 19:01:46 <Tofe> launchParam works now
Jan 04 19:06:07 <Herrie|Veer> Cool we can use that for many things :D
Jan 04 19:11:08 <JaMa> Herrie|Veer: bonaire upgraded, I'll trigger new testing build now
Jan 04 19:12:12 <Herrie|Veer> JaMa: That's quick :D
Jan 04 19:15:35 <Tofe> Herrie|Veer: playing the sound doesn't work here either. However, playing the .wav throung paplay works, which means we're really not far.
Jan 04 19:21:52 <Herrie|Veer> Tofe: Try an MP3 instead. Could just be codec issue. Since the one for volume = MP3
Jan 04 19:22:21 <Tofe> paplay with notification.wav works
Jan 04 19:22:48 <Tofe> JaMa: how can I know if my DISTRO_FEATURES contains pulseaudio?
Jan 04 19:23:13 <Tofe> more precisely, I'd like to see which configuration is used for QtMultimedia
Jan 04 19:28:00 <Herrie|Veer> And the mp3 for volume up/down works so might be wav is the "problem"
Jan 04 19:29:43 <Tofe> mmh
Jan 04 19:30:42 <Herrie|Veer> Converting them to mp3 might be a "solution" :P I can take care of that. More curious though why wav wouldn't work...
Jan 04 19:35:07 <Tofe> nope
Jan 04 19:36:59 <KyleMaas> Herrie|Veer: I suppose a ticket per app could work.  Still seems a little messy to me, but it would be better than nothing.
Jan 04 19:37:17 <KyleMaas> Hierarchical ticket dependencies sure would be nice...
Jan 04 19:38:04 <JaMa> Tofe: from different recipe? you cannot
Jan 04 19:38:35 <JaMa> you can use the same DISTRO_FEATURES conditional and hope that PACKAGECONFIG in qtmultimedia wasn't modified from somewhere else
Jan 04 19:39:19 <Tofe> ok
Jan 04 19:39:35 <Tofe> anyway I'm now quite sure qtmultimedia has pulseaudio support
Jan 04 19:41:27 <Tofe> Herrie|Veer: Volume Up/Down doesn't use QML nor even Qt
Jan 04 19:42:04 <Tofe> it calls a C++ LS2 service that is directly in relation with PA
Jan 04 19:42:41 <Herrie|Veer> Hmmmz I'm sure I saw an Audio somewhere in a QML for it... Maybe that was old code then...
Jan 04 19:47:41 <Tofe> The Qt audio example manage to produce some sounds, so there's only one piece missing
Jan 04 19:49:12 <Herrie|Veer> Maybe some sink is muted?
Jan 04 19:50:03 <Tofe> WARNING: 14:32:58.565: defaultServiceProvider::requestService(): no service found for - "org.qt-project.qt.mediaplayer"
Jan 04 20:09:53 <Tofe> our issue might be related to Qt not being able to load the gstreamer libs somehow
Jan 04 20:19:52 <Herrie|Veer> Tofe: That might also explain why we don't have audio in browser?
Jan 04 20:33:17 <Tofe> yes
Jan 04 21:28:04 <Herrie|Laptop> Tofe: Not sure which GStreamer we're using. Seems 1.0 might be problematic still with QT
Jan 04 21:28:38 <Herrie|Laptop> See https://github.com/meta-qt5/meta-qt5/blob/master/recipes-qt/qt5/qtmultimedia/0001-Initial-porting-effort-to-GStreamer-1.0.patch
Jan 04 21:28:41 <Herrie|Laptop> Not sure though
Jan 04 21:28:46 <Herrie|Laptop> JaMa might know more?
Jan 04 21:28:56 <Herrie|Laptop> Or maybe morphis?
Jan 04 21:28:59 <Herrie|Laptop> morphis: ^
Jan 04 21:31:53 <Herrie|Laptop> Not really sure how to read this recipe either: https://github.com/meta-qt5/meta-qt5/blob/master/recipes-qt/qt5/qtmultimedia_git.bb ?
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