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Feb 10 06:18:46 <Herrie|2> HolIRCUser1/ka6sox: I believe we should ONLY have them in /media/internal/wallpapers
Feb 10 06:19:33 <ka6sox> okay you can't symlink..so we would have to deploy them all in there for the image.
Feb 10 06:41:40 <Herrie|2> ka6sox: I'm not sure when this init.sh is being run
Feb 10 06:42:18 <ka6sox> I think its in the initramfs..I'll have to look again.
Feb 10 06:42:53 <ka6sox> all the FS is setup there and then mounted..followed by a pivot-root
Feb 10 06:43:33 <Herrie|2> So this is during build or after build?
Feb 10 06:43:52 <Herrie|2> Because that would determine what we can do in the recipe
Feb 10 06:47:40 <ka6sox> the build needs to put the files in the right directory
Feb 10 06:49:14 <ka6sox> init.sh only sets up the directories and mounts the partitions.
Feb 10 06:49:56 <Herrie|2> ka6sox: But when? During build, before anything else or during a first boot for example? That makes a difference
Feb 10 06:50:10 <Herrie|2> If it's the latter we cannot use the locations during a build ;)
Feb 10 06:51:29 <ka6sox> do you have the files?
Feb 10 06:51:44 <Herrie|2> The wallpaper ones?
Feb 10 06:51:45 <ka6sox> or are you planning on downloading them?
Feb 10 06:52:17 <Herrie|2> They are at https://github.com/webOS-ports/luneos-default-wallpapers
Feb 10 06:52:38 <Herrie|2> And this is the current recipe that puts then in /usr/share/wallpapers: https://github.com/webOS-ports/meta-webos-ports/blob/fido/meta-luneos/recipes-luneos/luneos-default-wallpapers/luneos-default-wallpapers.bb#l14
Feb 10 06:54:40 <Herrie|2> It could be as simple as using https://github.com/webOS-ports/meta-webos-ports/blob/fido/meta-luneui/classes/webos_filesystem_paths.bbclass#l99 instead of datadir
Feb 10 07:21:54 <Herrie|2> ka6sox: https://github.com/webOS-ports/meta-webos-ports/blob/fido/meta-luneos/recipes-luneos/luneos-default-wallpapers/luneos-default-wallpapers.bb
Feb 10 07:22:05 <Herrie|2> I mean https://github.com/webOS-ports/meta-webos-ports/commit/b5a238ceca6b04e1bd01b60dc9dea8dfeceb6698
Feb 10 07:22:45 <Herrie|2> Let me kick off a build and see if it works
Feb 10 07:25:37 <Herrie|2> If it does, probably need to update some location elsewhere to point to the right wallpaper. I guess in luna-init or something
Feb 10 07:26:16 <Herrie|2> Yup:) https://github.com/webOS-ports/luna-init/blob/webOS-ports/master/files/conf/defaultPreferences.txt#l11
Feb 10 08:39:11 <Tofe> Morning
Feb 10 08:41:33 <Herrie|Veer> Tofe: morning
Feb 10 08:59:39 <Tofe> Garfonso: doing some putKinds isn't an issue for me, configurator does the job; it's filling the data which I'm not sure about what is the best way
Feb 10 09:22:20 <Herrie|Veer> Tofe: Which repo I needed to clone for the phonenumber lib stuff?
Feb 10 09:53:00 <Herrie|Veer> Tofe: nevermind found out I messed up my loadable-frameworks to be in the wrong place :P
Feb 10 09:56:15 <Tofe> Herrie|Veer: ok :)
Feb 10 10:39:59 <Herrie|Veer> Tofe: ping
Feb 10 10:44:18 <Tofe> Herrie|Veer: pong
Feb 10 10:45:40 <Herrie|Veer> I noticed that for Tweaks support we're importing Utils in every app it seems which only contains Tweak.qml. Wouldn't it make sense to have this in luneos-components instead?
Feb 10 10:46:01 <Tofe> Herrie|Veer: completely.
Feb 10 10:46:47 <Herrie|Veer> Tofe: OK. I can just put the Tweak.qml in modules/LuneOS/Components or you have another suggestion?
Feb 10 10:46:59 <Herrie|Veer> And update qmldir etc accordingly?
Feb 10 10:49:16 <Tofe> Herrie|Veer: yes, that should be ok
Feb 10 10:57:11 <Herrie|Veer> Tofe: Hmmz doesn't seem to work. Could it be because it has import LuneOS.Service 1.0 ?
Feb 10 10:57:46 <Herrie|Veer> Tweak is not a type is my error messafe
Feb 10 10:57:55 <Herrie|Veer> s/f/g
Feb 10 11:48:14 <Tofe> Herrie|2: on QtDesktop ?
Feb 10 12:23:28 <Herrie|Veer> Tofe: Yeah
Feb 10 12:32:47 <Tofe> Works here, maybe a typo of yours ?
Feb 10 12:33:05 <Tofe> Can you push your commit somewhere?
Feb 10 12:42:37 <Herrie|Veer> Tofe: See herrie/fixes branch of LuneOS Components
Feb 10 12:44:27 <Tofe> Herrie|Veer: see comment :)
Feb 10 12:45:32 <Herrie|Veer> Tofe: Hmmz we have others that have .qml for the component name..
Feb 10 12:45:43 <Herrie|Veer> Those should be without too then?
Feb 10 12:58:44 <Tofe> yes, it's clearly a mistake
Feb 10 12:59:07 <Tofe> It only "works" because they are used from within LuneOS.Components, never from the outside
Feb 10 13:01:07 <Herrie|Veer> Tofe: Ah. Let me push that then. For the "name" in LunaService, can I just add an additional property string name: "" instead?
Feb 10 13:01:26 <Herrie|Veer> In the main Item that is.
Feb 10 13:02:42 <Tofe> Herrie|Veer: the name? Ah, you mean for having a customized ls2 service
Feb 10 13:02:56 <Tofe> well, it's a good time to have a property alias here
Feb 10 13:03:37 <Herrie|Veer> Tofe: Yeah
Feb 10 13:05:30 <Herrie|Veer> Because now it had the app id hardcoded there, which won't work when we'd move it to luneos components. "property alias serviceName: service.name" ?
Feb 10 14:09:28 <Tofe> Herrie|2:yes
Feb 10 15:21:37 <ka6sox> Herrie|2, can you send me those links in email?
Feb 10 15:33:18 <Herrie|Veer> Tofe: Wasted an hour with luna-send until I realized I need to run Tweaks at least once before it recognizes any Tweaks
Feb 10 15:33:34 <Herrie|Veer> My luna-send wouldn't give any useful output LOL
Feb 10 15:33:42 <Herrie|Veer> So would be good to fix that going forward
Feb 10 15:34:01 <Herrie|Veer> I guess that ties back to an item morphis added to Trello ages ago :P
Feb 10 15:34:15 <Herrie|Veer> With adding callback support for Tweaks
Feb 10 15:35:11 <Herrie|Veer> I'll probably migrate across Browser, LNC to luneos-components as well for Tweaks and add stub data. Then I'll probably add some more phone tweaks based on legacy phone patches.
Feb 10 15:36:12 <Herrie|Veer> I migrated most of the 2.1.x phone patches (mojo) to 2.2.x (enyo) so know what to look for, even though we have a completely new phone app :)
Feb 10 15:36:25 <Herrie|Veer> I know the inner workings of most patches :)
Feb 10 16:12:29 <Herrie|Veer> Tofe: ping
Feb 10 18:04:32 <Tofe> Herrie|2: pong
Feb 10 18:09:14 <Herrie|2> Tofe: For http://issues.webos-ports.org/issues/1103 O
Feb 10 18:09:34 <Herrie|2> I'm doubting between extending AppMenu or adding a new variant for DockMode/Exhibition apps for the future
Feb 10 18:11:08 <Herrie|2> Now we have AppMenu and CarrierString
Feb 10 18:18:32 <EricBlade> No one asked me, but since there can be only one possible showing at a time, I'd have it as a Text label that shows the foreground app name, if no foreground app, show carrier ?
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Feb 10 18:26:57 <DougReeder> Not yet
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Feb 10 18:32:34 * DougReeder_ waves
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Feb 10 18:34:45 <DougReeder> ...with IRCCloud
Feb 10 18:39:12 <DougReeder> I'm writing up some scenarios to clarify how LuneOS acts as a personal assistant without AI. Does anyone know if there's a way to get an index of the pages on a site, via opensearch or somesuch?
Feb 10 18:47:09 <agarzia> Hey friends, I am turning on my pre3 which was basically off since 2014. Do we have a link about what needs to be done in terms of preware feeds and any patch needed for it to work normally?
Feb 10 18:51:14 <Tofe> Herrie|2: I'm... not sure to understand the issue here
Feb 10 18:51:46 <Herrie|2> Tofe: Well currently the lockscreen shows appmenu while it should show carrierstring
Feb 10 18:51:56 <Herrie|2> I think DockMode might display something wrongly too
Feb 10 18:52:02 <Herrie|2> So I thought to tackle all at once
Feb 10 18:52:45 <Herrie|2> DougReeder: Seems Testr doesn't have a license file
Feb 10 18:52:57 <Herrie|2> You OK with Apache 2.0 or you prefer GPL v3?
Feb 10 18:54:02 <Tofe> Herrie|2: DockMode or LockMode => carrier, otherwise app name if any ?
Feb 10 18:54:59 <Herrie|2> DockMode should have app name too. App only when not carded. Other scenarios should have carrier string (so locked or card view)
Feb 10 18:55:36 <Tofe> basic DockMode isn't an app, it's just the clock builtin
Feb 10 18:55:42 <Herrie|2> Tofe: Yeah
Feb 10 18:55:58 <Herrie|2> But it should show "Time" in place of appmenu
Feb 10 18:56:05 <Tofe> ok, agreed
Feb 10 18:56:20 <Herrie|2> In case in future we implement exhibition mode support, you can tap it and get other exhibition enabled apps
Feb 10 18:56:23 <Tofe> so, maximized card app or dockmode => app name, otherwise carrier.
Feb 10 18:56:34 <Herrie|2> So hence I was wondering to abuse AppMenu for it or to do something new
Feb 10 18:56:46 <Herrie|2> So we can cater for DockMode/Exhibition
Feb 10 18:56:52 <Tofe> mmh
Feb 10 18:57:01 <Herrie|2> DougReeder: http://issues.webos-ports.org/issues/721 :D
Feb 10 18:57:16 <ka6sox> Herrie|2, can you send me those url's in an email please? they scrolled off.
Feb 10 18:57:18 <Herrie|2> Just think to create something similar to AppMenu but seperate would be cleaner?
Feb 10 18:57:26 <Herrie|2> ka6sox: It's sorted already ;)
Feb 10 18:57:33 <ka6sox> okay tanks
Feb 10 18:57:49 <Herrie|2> They end up in /media/internal/wallpapers now with this change: https://github.com/webOS-ports/meta-webos-ports/commit/b5a238ceca6b04e1bd01b60dc9dea8dfeceb6698
Feb 10 18:58:02 <Herrie|2> I updated luna-init and did PR for it to load it frm there too :D
Feb 10 18:58:28 <Tofe> Herrie|2: I don't think AppMenu should be abused, but we should find a generic way to ask for the app name which also applies to dockmode
Feb 10 18:59:16 <Tofe> I have to read the statusbar code again, I don't remember how it works :p
Feb 10 19:01:30 <DougReeder> Herrie, either license is fine with me.
Feb 10 19:04:26 <DougReeder> Herrie, I'll check 721 when i can. Got toddler barfing and a birthday coming up
Feb 10 19:04:50 <Tofe> Herrie|Laptop: we need to rework a bit AppMenu to make it use a bit more the QML properties binding, it would simplify it
Feb 10 19:05:07 <Herrie|Laptop> DougReeder: No worries
Feb 10 19:05:11 <Tofe> I can propose something
Feb 10 19:05:12 <Herrie|Laptop> It's not in nightly yet, but will be shortly
Feb 10 19:07:15 <Herrie|Laptop> DougReeder: When you have a chance, I'm more interested in http://issues.webos-ports.org/issues/699
Feb 10 19:07:45 <Herrie|Laptop> We solved some CPU issues recently, so might run quicker now
Feb 10 19:08:19 <DougReeder> Re site indexes: i'd like to download an index of Mozilla Developer Network (for example) to db8, so universal search would return hits
Feb 10 19:08:43 <Herrie|Laptop> DougReeder: Most have Apache 2.0 license so will add that for Testr too
Feb 10 19:09:22 <DougReeder> Yes, 699 is one for me to test.
Feb 10 19:12:53 <Herrie|Laptop> Tofe: https://github.com/webOS-ports/luna-init/pull/9
Feb 10 19:20:31 <DougReeder> On webOS, you visit a site, sometime you get an overlay asking if you want to add add the site to univeral search options. Is that OpenSearch?
Feb 10 19:21:12 <Herrie|Laptop> DougReeder: I think so
Feb 10 19:21:18 <Herrie|Laptop> We currently don't do anything yet
Feb 10 19:22:04 <Tofe> Herrie|Laptop: I propose that we get rid of the "switchToDashboard signal in WindowManager, which is useless because it's not really a mode, and introduce switchToLockScreen
Feb 10 19:22:52 <Tofe> I'm also hesitating about switchToDockMode
Feb 10 19:23:15 <Herrie|Laptop> Tofe: OK, you remember we still need to add the dashboards to lockscreen right?
Feb 10 19:23:28 <Tofe> Herrie|Laptop: I know, but that will help
Feb 10 19:23:32 <Herrie|Laptop> OK
Feb 10 19:23:41 <Herrie|Laptop> Just reminding ;)
Feb 10 19:30:25 <Herrie|Laptop> DougReeder: http://www.webosnation.com/add-any-website-just-type-search-webos-2-0-3-0
Feb 10 19:30:33 <Herrie|Laptop> That should work in LuneOS too
Feb 10 19:50:25 <Herrie|Laptop> DougReeder: It's OpenSearch: https://github.com/openwebos/luna-systemui/blob/75def237510fbabeb44e7a40fa74726802bd5698/data/SystemManagerService.js#l251
Feb 10 20:01:55 <DougReeder> Thanks
Feb 10 20:03:24 <Herrie|Laptop> DougReeder: It's something we'd need to hook up eventually somehow
Feb 10 20:04:54 <DougReeder> We do need opensearch at some point, i was hoping it lent itself to something a bit different
Feb 10 20:08:28 <Herrie|Laptop> DougReeder: Not sure what Open Search can provide. I think it's just search engine. Not an index dump :S
Feb 10 20:08:34 <Herrie|Laptop> Not sure there's something for that
Feb 10 20:08:45 <Herrie|Laptop> Maybe parse sitemap.xml into db8 somehow?
Feb 10 20:18:26 <Tofe> Herrie|Laptop: I realize my WindowManager signals don't integrate that well in the whole thing; I need to think more about it
Feb 10 20:19:22 <Tofe> Herrie|Laptop: most of the current little rework will be useful though: https://github.com/webOS-ports/luna-next-cardshell/commit/6ae719968c2eda1626f3029a337379cf12d35856
Feb 10 20:22:17 <Herrie|Laptop> Tofe: OK
Feb 10 20:22:29 <Herrie|Laptop> I did these: https://github.com/webOS-ports/org.webosports.app.browser/commit/d64975a2926b1a98f755be2d6f0f420978e7c8b6 and https://github.com/webOS-ports/org.webosports.app.browser/commit/595096567602038d96961c5d2228cec82dae32d5
Feb 10 20:22:37 <Herrie|Laptop> Now will look into LNC and do the same
Feb 10 20:22:47 <Herrie|Laptop> + add stub data to luneos-components
Feb 10 20:28:49 <elvispre> Hey! Who deleted all my wallpaper? :-)
Feb 10 20:30:00 <Tofe> Herrie|Laptop: ok
Feb 10 20:30:31 <Herrie|Laptop> elvispre: Latest luna-init commit will fix that
Feb 10 20:30:41 <elvispre> NP
Feb 10 20:30:47 <Herrie|Laptop> I first wanted to make sure that the move would work to /media/internal/wallpapers before changing luna-init location ;)
Feb 10 20:32:02 <elvispre> Actually, I see a bunch of wallpaper images in .wallpaper folder. So they are still around.
Feb 10 20:32:51 <elvispre> Make that .wallpapers.
Feb 10 20:33:00 <Herrie|Laptop> elvispre: they were in /usr/share/wallpapers which isn't indexed by mediaindexer
Feb 10 20:33:16 <Herrie|Laptop> Legacy had them in /media/internal/wallpapers (which is user accessible as well), so moved them there now
Feb 10 21:01:47 <Herrie|Laptop> Tofe: https://github.com/webOS-ports/luna-next-cardshell/pull/257 and https://github.com/webOS-ports/luneos-components/pull/40
Feb 10 21:02:11 <Herrie|Laptop> Tofe: Oops let me update it
Feb 10 21:09:26 <Herrie|Laptop> Tofe: OK should be OK now with https://github.com/webOS-ports/luna-next-cardshell/commit/defe6b5495ff73dfbc7c4f2576af8c637dab5130
Feb 10 21:12:08 <Herrie|Laptop> And this one as well: https://github.com/webOS-ports/luneos-components/commit/39501f6adb1cbaab0260fb227352bd488767fac5
Feb 10 21:29:46 <Herrie|Laptop> This is tested & works :)
Feb 10 23:29:18 <elvispre> Herrie|2: browser recipe needs to say branch=master-webengine for the given commit. At the moment it just says master.
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