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Mar 25 05:27:21 <Herrie> OK did some testing with latest unstable images. Mako bootloops, Maguro boots. On Maguro PulseAudio & LunaWebAppMgr both don't work yet
Mar 25 06:57:37 <elvispre> Herrie: What are the headline differences between our stable and unstable images?
Mar 25 07:05:08 <Herrie> elvispre: unstable is using Jethro and stable/testing is using Fido layers
Mar 25 07:05:33 <Herrie> elvispre: Testing: https://github.com/webOS-ports/webos-ports-setup/blob/testing/conf/layers.txt
Mar 25 07:05:43 <Herrie> Unstable: https://github.com/webOS-ports/webos-ports-setup/blob/unstable/conf/layers.txt
Mar 25 07:05:56 <elvispre> Herrie: Thx
Mar 25 07:06:02 <Herrie> https://wiki.yoctoproject.org/wiki/Releases
Mar 25 07:39:21 <Herrie|Veer> morning
Mar 25 07:51:46 <dkirker> heya
Mar 25 07:52:17 <dkirker> So with doing OTA updates..... my Nexus 4 doesn't boot anymore. Just stuck on the Google logo. :(
Mar 25 07:55:37 <Herrie|Veer> dkirker: Blame Garfonso he needs to fix it :P
Mar 25 07:56:12 <Tofe> Morning!
Mar 25 07:56:45 <dkirker> haha
Mar 25 07:57:02 <dkirker> Herrie|Veer: do you know what the issue is? I tried reflashing boot.img, but I guess it isn't that :/
Mar 25 07:57:07 <dkirker> Tofe: morning!
Mar 25 07:57:48 <Herrie|Veer> Just he has little time with his little baby
Mar 25 07:57:58 <dkirker> mmmmm food
Mar 25 07:58:31 <Herrie|Veer> dkirker: Not sure he was writing a downloadmanager and updating the update service
Mar 25 07:58:45 <Herrie|Veer> I think there was a dependancy between them somehow.
Mar 25 07:58:56 <Herrie|Veer> I need to check the logs :P
Mar 25 08:00:39 <Herrie|Veer> Also the updates were supposed to be changed from whole image to incremental or the other way around. Don't remember tbh
Mar 25 08:00:43 <Herrie|Veer> Tofe: morning
Mar 25 08:01:12 <dkirker> they're incremental right now
Mar 25 08:01:37 <dkirker> problem with whole image, at least if I do it through sideload, is that the data on the phone gets wiped :/
Mar 25 08:02:47 <Herrie|Veer> dkirker: With me /media/internal survives sideload
Mar 25 08:03:10 <dkirker> yeah, that survives
Mar 25 08:03:45 <dkirker> not sure if messages survive (I *just* stuck an active SIM in with messaging and such), apps don't
Mar 25 08:04:12 <Herrie|Veer> Tofe: Both PulseAudio and luna-webappmgr behave properly on Jethro on qemux86
Mar 25 08:04:33 <Herrie|Veer> So I'm inclined to think the issues we have on ARM are due to toolchain
Mar 25 08:05:52 <Tofe> Herrie|Veer: ok, that's one more clue; not sure if it makes it easier to track or not :p
Mar 25 08:05:53 <Herrie|Veer> dkirker: No those probably don't currently...
Mar 25 08:06:35 <Herrie|Veer> Tofe: Me neither. Also checked Maguro again and it boots OK with Jethro systemd, Mako still bootloops and no adb logcat
Mar 25 08:07:37 <Tofe> Herrie|Veer: well, for that I still can help :)
Mar 25 08:07:52 <Herrie|Veer> Tofe: Yeah :)
Mar 25 08:08:23 <Herrie|Veer> I tried gdb-ing PulseAudio but it doesn't seem to crash then and also doesn't work :P
Mar 25 08:08:35 <Herrie|Veer> I.e. doesn't respond to volume button presses
Mar 25 08:09:18 <Tofe> If you want a log: 1. go to recovery, 2. with adb, mount the luneos partition and create the  /var/log/journal/ directory, 3. boot once or twice, 4. go again to recovery, mount luneos and fetch the log
Mar 25 08:11:42 <Tofe> Herrie|Veer: so for PA, we have the UI for the vol+/vol-, but it doesn't actually change the volume? or no UI either?
Mar 25 08:12:19 <Herrie|Veer> Tofe: UI isn't showing with Jethro PA and hard crash in log
Mar 25 08:12:55 <Herrie|Veer> When I use Fido PA (also 6) in Jethro all works, UI volume feedback and sound for volume change
Mar 25 08:15:32 <Tofe> but jethro's PA only crashes with no gdb attached?
Mar 25 08:17:41 <Herrie|Veer> Tofe: It seems that way :s
Mar 25 08:18:45 <Herrie|Veer> I was debugging at 6 this morning with too little coffee :P
Mar 25 08:26:32 <Herrie|Veer> Anyway 1/2 day work today so will be home around lunch to debug further :P
Mar 25 08:33:03 <elvispre> Am I correct? The meta-webos-ports layer branch names look like Yocto Project branch (/ release) names, but we just do that to keep track of the underlying infrastructure. Webos-ports is not part of Yocto Project.
Mar 25 08:34:31 <Herrie|Veer> elvispre: Yeah correct, we have our own layer with LuneOS specifics.
Mar 25 08:35:06 <Herrie|Veer> For example openembedded-core will deliver PulseAudio, we add patches and config in our layer.
Mar 25 08:35:34 <Herrie|Veer> So our meta-webos-ports fido layer works with Yocto fido etc
Mar 25 08:35:39 <Herrie|Veer> Jethro with Jethro etc
Mar 25 08:38:43 <elvispre> Just trying to get the Big Picture. (I have built my own linux system from the source by hand a few times, so I *know* how how useful all this infrastructure is.)
Mar 25 08:40:50 <Herrie|Veer> elvispre: Yeah Yocto provides all the common components as well as a whole build system :)
Mar 25 08:40:55 <Herrie|Veer> It's pretty good :)
Mar 25 08:41:26 <Herrie|Veer> Just when they update components we need to make sure all bits in meta-webos-ports keep working too ;)
Mar 25 11:11:13 <Herrie|Veer> JaMa: Mako still bootlooping, Maguro fine. Systemd issue is odd. Both PulseAudio & LunaWebAppMgr crash on Mako & Maguro, but fine on qemux86
Mar 25 11:14:00 <Herrie|Veer> That's with latest unstable.
Mar 25 12:08:59 <Herrie> Tofe: LuneOS partition is /data/luneos ?
Mar 25 12:11:11 <Tofe> ewww, one moment
Mar 25 12:12:22 <Tofe> yes, should be that
Mar 25 12:24:16 <Herrie> Hmmz Mako doesn't want to boot, will put it on charger for a bit
Mar 25 14:13:48 <Herrie> Tofe: Just get blank screen and when I hold the buttons red blinking light on bottom :S
Mar 25 14:13:58 <Herrie> Remember I had this before, don't recall how i solved it
Mar 25 14:22:58 <Tofe> https://www.reddit.com/r/nexus4/comments/2cwijm/nexus_4_wont_turn_on_blinking_red_light_not_a/ ?
Mar 25 15:45:52 <Herrie> Tofe: Yeah found that too. So far no luck. I guess I'll let it on charger for a bit.
Mar 25 15:46:09 <Herrie> DOn't know where I left my original N4 charger, but TP one usually works I guess
Mar 25 15:59:32 <Tofe> mmh
Mar 25 16:23:45 <Herrie> I just get a blank screen and when playing with buttons either a steady or blinking red right
Mar 25 16:23:53 <Herrie> When I release buttons I get blank screen again :S
Mar 25 16:23:58 <Herrie> No charging sign, no recovery
Mar 25 16:24:27 <Herrie> Device Manager recognizes it as "Full Jellybean on Mako" when holding volume up :S
Mar 25 19:17:16 <elvispre> Herrie: I once had to leave my N4 on the wall charger for a day or so before any of "the button tricks" would work, but then they did. It does seem to positively want to get into deep sleep modes.
Mar 25 19:20:40 <elvispre> Herrie: And I do seem to remember having to plug in the power while holding down a combination of power and volume. An extra pair of hands would have been handy.
Mar 25 19:43:02 <Herrie> elvispre: Yeah it's a pain, will see... Been some hours now still nothing...
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