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Apr 18 08:37:24 <Tofe> MOrning!
Apr 18 08:37:46 <Tofe> Back to civilization :)
Apr 18 09:36:17 <Herrie|Laptop> Tofe: Welcome back to civilized world :) Hope you had a good time!
Apr 18 09:36:50 <Herrie|Laptop> Started the Monday morning by letting my Veer drop face down and screen in bits and pieces, so won't be around here much until I swapped to another phone, probably during lunchtime or shortly after :P
Apr 18 09:39:02 <Tofe> Herrie: oh, that's quite a bad monday
Apr 18 09:39:28 <Tofe> I went cllimbing in the Alps, that was really nice :)
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Apr 18 12:29:01 <Herrie|Pre3> Tofe: Nice :)
Apr 18 12:29:19 <Herrie|Pre3> On a Pre 3 for now :) See if I can get used to it. Feels bulky compared to my Veer :P
Apr 18 12:43:06 <Herrie|Pre3> Back needed to update OpenSSL so my Google will work :P$
Apr 18 13:11:55 <Herrie|Pre3> JaMa: Welcome back!
Apr 18 13:12:49 <Herrie|Pre3> Did some testing o
Apr 18 13:14:39 <Herrie|Pre3> n the unstable image.  Mako doesn't boot. Tofe will probably check the systemd issue sometime. I tried something over the weekend but that didn't work out. Maguro is fine, PulseAudio seems to work but no audio output. TP boots, just no Wifi on my TP 4G, t
Apr 18 13:14:39 <Herrie|Pre3> hough nothing suspicious in logs it seems. Will retest on Wifi only TP. Qemux86 I couldn't connect with SCP
Apr 18 13:19:56 <Herrie|Pre3> So a mixed bag of results but nothing too major it seems.
Apr 18 13:25:38 <JaMa> thanks for testing!
Apr 18 13:26:52 <Herrie|Pre3> Maybe you can see if you can replicate the qemu one and we'll try to see if we can find solutions for the rest?
Apr 18 13:41:57 <Herrie|Pre3> JaMa: If you have some debug instructions I'm happy to give qemu a go myself as well.
Apr 18 15:35:34 <Tofe> Herrie: my battery is still on the way, but I've now removed the old one
Apr 18 15:35:54 <Tofe> so now there's no risk of hurting the N4 badly
Apr 18 15:50:37 <Herrie|Pre3> Tofe: mine is finally in the mail after I received the RMA number, but it might take 4-6 weeks they said :s
Apr 18 15:50:57 <Herrie|Pre3> Galaxy Nexus SIM slot should arrive shortly though :P
Apr 18 16:09:46 <Qiangong2> Hello, I've found an error whenever I repo sync LuneOS
Apr 18 16:10:16 <Qiangong2> whenever it tries to sync https://github.com/cyngn/android_vendor_cyngn/ It does not work
Apr 18 16:10:41 <Qiangong2> Cyanogenmod has taken i down from the cyngn github site
Apr 18 17:49:29 <Preemptive> Morning
Apr 18 17:52:19 <Qiangong2> morning :)
Apr 18 17:54:11 <Preemptive> €;<>[\]^`{|}~¡¢£¤¥§©ª«¬®°±º¹²³µ¶»¼½¾¿ƒ‘’‚‛“”„†‡•…‰‹›™Ω×÷Þß:-(:-);-)
Apr 18 17:54:59 <Preemptive> I was wondering how to get these Sym key symbols out of the VKB. Is it possible? Or WIP?
Apr 18 17:56:06 <Preemptive> Also, is there a standard testing procedure?
Apr 18 17:56:47 <Preemptive> I'm currently running Coffee Milk stable.
Apr 18 17:57:53 <Preemptive> I have an N4 (I see there is a bit of a shortage) so I do tests if you want, but I need to sort out a smaller SIM for it.
Apr 18 18:06:37 <Herrie> Qiangong2: I'm home now, so we can continue here ;)
Apr 18 18:06:51 <Herrie> Just wIRC (IRC client on my Pre 3) isn't always behaving
Apr 18 18:06:56 <Herrie> Preemptive: morning
Apr 18 18:07:13 <Herrie> Qiangong2: Can you copy the paste here
Apr 18 18:07:15 <Preemptive> Hello
Apr 18 18:07:38 <Herrie> Preemptive: We have some under the sym-keyboard and some are under the regular letters, but I guess quite some are missing still ;)
Apr 18 18:07:47 <Herrie> The VKB is pretty much work in progress still
Apr 18 18:08:01 <Herrie> It now more or less has 3.0.x similar capabilities
Apr 18 18:08:21 <Herrie> + text prediction & auto completion if you enable it in settings
Apr 18 18:08:34 <Herrie> But that's after Coffee Milk ;)
Apr 18 18:08:36 <Preemptive> I was thinking that ... is a bit redundant & could be repurposed as a sym key
Apr 18 18:08:58 <Herrie> ... is basically sym to a certain extend
Apr 18 18:09:10 <Qiangong2> Herrie: Here it is --- http://pastebin.com/K56T3CDY
Apr 18 18:09:12 <Herrie> We went by what was in 3.0.5 and adjusted Maliit (our input framework for it)
Apr 18 18:09:23 <Preemptive> Oh? It only does ... for me.
Apr 18 18:10:03 <Herrie> Preemptive: It should give you some alternatives
Apr 18 18:10:07 <Herrie> Let me try my Nexus
Apr 18 18:10:10 <Herrie> My N4 is RMA
Apr 18 18:11:03 <Preemptive> It shows a bubble, but that just has ... ;-)
Apr 18 18:11:20 <Herrie> Preemptive: 123 gives you alternative layout
Apr 18 18:12:16 <Herrie> ... should give you other options for s will give you s, $ etc
Apr 18 18:13:36 <Preemptive> As the other keys with options have ... I thought it might be a 'sym', but it's just ... Yes, 123 is numbers and symbols. None of those have additional options.
Apr 18 18:14:11 <Herrie> Preemptive: Correct, we also don't have emoji's currently...
Apr 18 18:14:17 <Herrie> We still need to come up with something for that
Apr 18 18:14:38 <Preemptive> Thats OK, I only use ;-)
Apr 18 18:14:57 <Preemptive> But some passwords can't be entered...
Apr 18 18:15:27 <Herrie> Qiangong2: I never ported a device myself, Tofe or Andolamin might know a thing or 2. ARMv5 I also doubt we tried
Apr 18 18:15:35 <Herrie> All our target are ARMv7 at least
Apr 18 18:15:47 <Herrie> Preemptive: That's a fair point :P
Apr 18 18:15:55 <Herrie> How you do it on legacy 3.0.x currently?
Apr 18 18:16:01 <Herrie> You should have the same problem there :P
Apr 18 18:16:09 <Herrie> 2.x had more options I agree ;)
Apr 18 18:16:15 <Qiangong2> The Galaxy Star Pro is ARMv7
Apr 18 18:16:22 <Qiangong2> It's ARMv7l
Apr 18 18:16:44 <Preemptive> Hang on, I'll get the TP (I could cut n paste, but that's also WIP)
Apr 18 18:18:09 <Herrie> Qiangong2: OK I might have read wrongly somewhere :)
Apr 18 18:19:21 <Qiangong2> Okay, It's a build error though, not necessarily s porting error right?
Apr 18 18:19:46 <Qiangong2> A vpx error
Apr 18 18:23:37 <Tofe> Hi there
Apr 18 18:23:41 <Preemptive> TP has permanent number row. Symbol shift brings `~€£\|{}[]<>=+x÷°;::-);-):-(:'(:-P:-O<3
Apr 18 18:23:46 <Qiangong2> Hi
Apr 18 18:24:48 <Tofe> Qiangong2: indeed, the first thing to port luneos on a new device is to have a working CM build
Apr 18 18:25:10 <Qiangong2> I have made a working cm11 build
Apr 18 18:25:36 <Qiangong2> Using the same trees I'm using now
Apr 18 18:25:41 <Tofe> Ok, so maybe I didn't understand well, the problem you have now
Apr 18 18:26:23 <Qiangong2> I'm getting a SoftVPX.cpp error whenever I build using brunch
Apr 18 18:27:51 <Preemptive> There are four more buttons at bottom right with bubble options: ,/\ .? Oh, the number key also have options! I'll just send it all in an email - it looks like the sym key may be matched by the TP keyboard
Apr 18 18:27:55 <Tofe> Looking at your paste, it looks like the on2 codec for stagefright is problematic
Apr 18 18:28:20 <Qiangong2> Yeah, I don't know why though...
Apr 18 18:28:42 <Tofe> What's the difference between the working cm11 build you made and the current one?
Apr 18 18:29:23 <Qiangong2> I haven't made any edits to either code. The cm11 builds just fine, the LuneOS does not
Apr 18 18:30:57 <Tofe> But that's the part I don't understand: apart from a little patch we apply on the android code, there's no "LuneOS CM build" as such
Apr 18 18:32:09 <Qiangong2> hmm
Apr 18 18:32:19 <Tofe> Where do you get the code from?
Apr 18 18:32:34 <Qiangong2> github.com/Fire-Galaxy/
Apr 18 18:32:51 <Qiangong2> android_kernel_samsung_logan2g
Apr 18 18:33:00 <Qiangong2> and android_device_samsung_logan2g
Apr 18 18:33:48 <Qiangong2> I get my vendor specific blobs from http://github.com/ItsAnilSingh/android_vendor_samsung_logan2g
Apr 18 18:38:14 <Qiangong2> Tofe: could it possibly be that I had to edit the default.xml to finish the repo sync?
Apr 18 18:38:26 <Qiangong2> Herrie knows about it
Apr 18 18:38:37 <Tofe> Did you follow this kind of steps ? http://webos-ports.org/wiki/Porting_Guide#Building_the_Android_pieces
Apr 18 18:38:48 <Qiangong2> Yes I did follow that
Apr 18 18:39:04 <Tofe> ok
Apr 18 18:39:32 <Qiangong2> github.com/cyngn/android_vendor_cyngn does not exist anymore
Apr 18 18:42:19 <Tofe> Ok, so yes there might be some update to do on the default.xml file
Apr 18 18:44:14 <Qiangong2> right now you have to set remote=github and revision=master to CyanogenMod/android_vendor_cyanogen
Apr 18 18:47:41 <Herrie> Qiangong2: android_vendor_cyanogen looks TOO OLD to me.
Apr 18 18:47:45 <Herrie> Maybe you need https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_vendor_cm/tree/cm-11.0 instead?
Apr 18 18:48:00 <Herrie> Tofe: You remember? I'm not very familiar with all this
Apr 18 18:48:42 <Tofe> Herrie: no, I don't really remember, I've not looked at the android builds for quite a long time
Apr 18 18:49:02 <Tofe> And it was morphis who handled most of it
Apr 18 18:49:07 <Qiangong2> That's what I thought originally...
Apr 18 18:49:28 <Herrie> Qiangong2: It looks a bit old to me, seeing it's 6 years not updated
Apr 18 18:49:50 <Qiangong2> yeah, that could be why it isn't building :)
Apr 18 18:50:03 <Qiangong2> I'll change the default.xml and build again
Apr 18 18:50:06 <Herrie> CM 11 = Android 4.4
Apr 18 18:50:14 <Herrie> Which wasn't out back then
Apr 18 18:50:20 <Herrie> They were still on 2.x
Apr 18 18:50:24 <Qiangong2> I just thought the other one was generic that's why
Apr 18 18:52:03 <Herrie> Our Touchpad build is based on CM11, Maguro (Galaxy Nexus) & Mako (Nexus 4) based on CM 10.1 (Android 4.2.2), but looking to upgrade it to 4.4 CM11 based too.
Apr 18 18:52:30 <Herrie> Tofe: https://github.com/Herrie82/fingerterm/commit/8cca3a6b45a6f0f60942fea357a32c8ea770436f & https://github.com/Herrie82/fingerterm/commit/7b5c66926cce599bf25e27749a7fe4f75df0668d
Apr 18 18:52:36 <Herrie> In case you forgot :P
Apr 18 18:53:27 <Tofe> Herrie: thanks, I did forget :)
Apr 18 18:56:14 <Qiangong2> Herrie: We already have that vendor tree set as vendor/cm
Apr 18 18:56:47 <Qiangong2> Or at least the main branch it is trying to read from...
Apr 18 18:57:31 <Qiangong2> Tofe Still same VPX error with the new tree replacing the old one
Apr 18 19:00:29 <Tofe> Did you try without -userdebug?
Apr 18 19:01:21 <Qiangong2> you mean with -eng?
Apr 18 19:01:44 <Tofe> no, for the brunch target
Apr 18 19:01:50 <Tofe> You used brunch cm_<machine>-userdebug ?
Apr 18 19:02:13 <Qiangong2> I used brunch logan2g which defaults to cm_logan2g-userdebug
Apr 18 19:02:28 <Qiangong2> the only other option is cm_logan2g-eng
Apr 18 19:02:40 <Qiangong2> Which I have never gotten to work
Apr 18 19:06:28 <Tofe> ok
Apr 18 19:06:40 <Qiangong2> same errors on VPX.cpp
Apr 18 19:06:57 <Tofe> I'm a bit out of idea, even if I guess the issue is that on2 shouldn't even be needed here
Apr 18 19:07:31 <Qiangong2> I'm hesitant to comment those lines out though...
Apr 18 19:07:54 <Qiangong2> * same errors on eng
Apr 18 19:09:20 <Herrie> Qiangong2: What you're trying to achieve with a port? Based on the hardware I would say it wouldn't run very well
Apr 18 19:09:31 <Herrie> Though for learning experience it's nice of course :D
Apr 18 19:09:44 <Herrie> I got a Huawei P6 laying around somewhere I might try it on :)
Apr 18 19:10:17 <Qiangong2> Mainly for learning at this point :) It would be cool though if we could also optimize LuneOS for low RAM devices
Apr 18 19:12:24 <Herrie> Qiangong2: Yes, but seeing the RAM that QtWebEngine (Chromium) mainly uses, it will be quite hard
Apr 18 19:12:42 <Herrie> RAM aren't really the costs anymore nowadays, but yeah I agree, low footprint is always nice :)
Apr 18 19:13:13 <Herrie> Just for reference: 1GB RAM on the Galaxy Nexus & Touchpad seems really quite the minimum to run it more or less OK-ish
Apr 18 19:13:37 <Herrie> But we haven't tried anything below to be honest
Apr 18 19:13:50 <Qiangong2> We just need it to build before we worry about speed :D
Apr 18 19:14:20 <Herrie> True
Apr 18 19:15:58 <Preemptive> Oh, yes, someone tweeted this: http://github.com/dthree/cash It seems to be command line shell in js, but I don't really know.. ;-) Any use?
Apr 18 19:16:21 <Herrie> Preemptive: We have FingerTerm, soon in Prelude :P
Apr 18 19:17:33 <Preemptive> Yes.. needs a magnifying glass at the moment, so prelude would be good. I type on it VERY carefully!
Apr 18 19:18:18 <Preemptive> I think I typed every character on the TP KB, so... I'll do a spreadsheet or something
Apr 18 19:20:59 <Herrie> Preemptive: That would be helpful :)
Apr 18 19:21:05 <Herrie> Tweaking the VKB is pretty easy too :)
Apr 18 19:21:19 <Herrie> You can basically do it in QtCreator :)
Apr 18 19:21:44 <Herrie> We have some instructions here: http://webos-ports.org/wiki/Getting_Started_-_QML_Apps#webos-keyboard
Apr 18 19:21:51 <Herrie> On how to get started with QML stuff ;)
Apr 18 19:22:07 <Herrie> It's basically Javascript/Enyo syntax mix with pretty OK documentation from QT side ;)
Apr 18 19:22:29 <Preemptive> Yes, OK I'll take the hint and have a look at installing that, but I can't promise anything. I don't know javascript
Apr 18 19:23:11 <Herrie> Preemptive: I wrote the browser without knowing QML :P
Apr 18 19:23:15 <Qiangong2> Just out of curiosity, does the keyboard support Simplified and Traditional Chinese Support? Like PinYin, ZhuYin, or CangJie?
Apr 18 19:23:36 <Herrie> Qiangong2: It should support PinYin theoretically but we haven't tested it :P
Apr 18 19:23:53 <Preemptive> Qiangong: You could do it in QT creator! ;-)
Apr 18 19:24:00 <Qiangong2> Okay, thanks :)
Apr 18 19:24:05 <Herrie> We use Maliit as input framework which is pretty good ;)
Apr 18 19:24:51 <Qiangong2> Okay :) I'm sure you'll gain so many users if PinYin works ;)
Apr 18 19:25:28 <Herrie> Qiangong2: We need a dev to make it work that understands Mandarin and/or Cantonese :P
Apr 18 19:25:57 <Qiangong2> I'd be willing, but I only know Mandarin
Apr 18 19:26:18 <Qiangong2> And let me guess, QT Creator? ;)
Apr 18 19:28:12 <Preemptive> Thanks & good night. I have to eat. I will send a table presently
Apr 18 19:29:32 <Herrie> Qiangong2: QT Creator: Yes :)
Apr 18 19:29:46 <Herrie> You can just run webos-keyboard in there :)
Apr 18 19:29:50 <Herrie> And modify on the go :)
Apr 18 19:30:05 <Qiangong2> Okay :)
Apr 18 20:17:02 <elvispre> Hmmm. The only way seem to be able to get a log message out of webos-telephonyd is to call g_error() but that causes a memory violation. At least I know my code is being called...
Apr 18 20:39:36 <Qiangong2> Herrie: I got another error: "external/sonivox/arm-wt-22k/lib_src/eas_wtengine.c:454: error: undefined reference to 'android_errorWriteLog' "
Apr 18 20:39:46 <Qiangong2> Tofe: you too :D
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