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May 06 03:24:32 * DougReeder is online for an hour
May 06 04:14:21 <Herrie> DougReeder: No just regular 4.2.x as before
May 06 04:14:34 <DougReeder> Ok, good.
May 06 04:15:17 <Herrie> Garfonso: I have Node 4.4.1 on my image here
May 06 04:47:50 <DougReeder> I just installed luneos-dev-package-mako-20160505111400-testing-0-393.zip on my N4, and  First Use can’t find any WiFi networks. Is that expected?
May 06 04:49:32 <DougReeder> Likewise the Settings app
May 06 05:03:08 <Herrie|Pre3> DougReeder: Tofe had the same. We're testing a fix.
May 06 05:03:17 <Herrie|Pre3> Will let you know when we have a new image.
May 06 05:03:19 <DougReeder> Okay, then.
May 06 05:03:25 <DougReeder> Thanks.
May 06 05:03:36 <Herrie|Pre3> My N4 is RMA so I cannot test myself :(
May 06 05:03:56 <Herrie|Pre3> Only have Maguro, TP & VirtualBox to test.
May 06 05:04:07 * DougReeder nods
May 06 05:04:50 <Herrie|Pre3> Seems that latest iptables had issues with ConnMan. We have a patch already, just need to confirm it's working.
May 06 05:05:13 <Herrie|Pre3> So I guess we'll have a new image later today :)
May 06 05:05:13 <DougReeder> np
May 06 05:05:30 <Herrie|Pre3> On my Maguro it was fine though :s
May 06 05:05:56 <Herrie|Pre3> So a bit strange all is OK on 1 target but not on another. Could be kernel version I guess.
May 06 05:06:40 <DougReeder> Mmm
May 06 05:12:40 <DougReeder> I’ve got a new version of Serene Notes to validate on LuneOS, but that can wait till tomorrow.
May 06 05:13:14 <Herrie|Pre3> DougReeder: Does Serene Notes use Node somewhere by any chance?
May 06 05:13:21 <DougReeder> Not at all.
May 06 05:13:29 <Herrie|Pre3> OK :)
May 06 05:15:53 <DougReeder> It’s nice to be able to access files from the app. I never understood why webOS broke that.
May 06 05:16:39 <Herrie|Pre3> DougReeder: If it launches... It didn't for me on recent builds. Tofe will be able to look into some of these QtWebEngine issues though :)
May 06 05:16:51 * DougReeder nods
May 06 05:17:15 <Herrie|Pre3> It's probably something small like most of the times.
May 06 05:17:42 <DougReeder> Serene will likely need to use a JavaScript Service to automate its backups.
May 06 05:18:15 <Herrie|Pre3> DougReeder: Recent nightly will have Node 4.4.1 :)
May 06 05:18:27 <DougReeder> But I should check the latest APIs.
May 06 05:19:00 <DougReeder> In my copious spare time, I’ll look into porting SubEthaEdit.
May 06 05:19:35 <DougReeder> Would actually be useful to bring a mobile device to meeting and have everyone edit a document together.
May 06 05:20:16 <Herrie|Pre3> I don't know SubEthaEdit will look into it :)
May 06 05:20:32 <DougReeder> wait maybe its the other
May 06 05:23:52 <DougReeder> Etherpad lite
May 06 05:25:03 <DougReeder> Etherpad works with node v0.10+ and io.js.
May 06 05:25:07 <DougReeder> So, we’re good
May 06 05:25:32 <Herrie|Pre3> Seems it's updated for Node 4.4.x already :)
May 06 05:25:43 <DougReeder> Good
May 06 05:26:49 <DougReeder> Biggest problem will be that setup normally involves other tools than node: gzip, git, curl, libssl develop libraries, python and gcc.
May 06 05:28:33 <DougReeder> Would be good to have that working when we hit 1.0 - show people we have advanced capabilities.
May 06 05:28:44 <DougReeder> Anyway, bedtime for me.
May 06 05:30:41 <Herrie|Pre3> We have a lot of those if not all :)
May 06 05:58:03 <Herrie> Garfonso: I guess latest Emulator image was still building last night while you were playing around. New image that's now available has Node 4.4.1 :)
May 06 07:16:09 <Herrie|Veer> morning
May 06 07:16:14 <Herrie|Veer> Tofe: ping
May 06 07:35:38 <Tofe> Herrie: pong
May 06 07:36:28 <Tofe> Herrie: removing our connman overloading fixes wifi & call
May 06 07:37:08 <Herrie|Veer> Tofe: Great
May 06 07:37:15 <Herrie|Veer> Will make the changes
May 06 07:37:39 <Tofe> I'm testing your voicecall now
May 06 07:37:43 <Herrie|Veer> I did some initial testing with ConnMan 1.32 but that will need looking into further since my BT doesn't seem to behave with it.
May 06 07:38:34 <Tofe> My BT doesn't initialize either
May 06 07:38:52 <Herrie|Veer> So for now let's stick with 1.31. I'll remove our recipe and kick off a new build shortly.
May 06 07:39:09 <Herrie|Veer> Tofe: Hmmz that might be something else then :s
May 06 07:39:54 <Tofe> ... and using your voicecall doesn't work, in the sense that a larger rebuild is needed
May 06 07:40:25 <Tofe> "libvoicecall.so: undefined symbol: _ZN22VoiceCallAudioRecorder16staticMetaObjectE)"
May 06 07:41:16 <Herrie|Veer> Tofe: VoiceCallAudioRecorder is a new feature they introduced
May 06 07:41:27 <Herrie|Veer> I disabled it, could be I forgot a bit somewhere
May 06 07:41:31 <Herrie|Veer> I'll check
May 06 08:10:15 <Herrie|Veer> Tofe: Seems I forgot to remove/disable a header in the includes. I'll send you a new IPK when home :)
May 06 08:55:05 <Herrie|Veer> I guess I'm going to make a MR to voicecall so we can deal with this more gracefully during a build.
May 06 08:55:16 <Herrie|Veer> Similar as with Fingerterm.
May 06 09:14:27 <Garfonso> Herrie: ok, services all work fine with node 4.4, too. Just tested keymanager, cdav, download and update.
May 06 09:16:26 <Herrie|Veer> Garfonso: Nice :)
May 06 09:16:43 <Herrie|Veer> New testing build is running now to include your PR's from last night :)
May 06 09:16:54 <Herrie|Veer> And to fix ConnMan on the N4/TP :)
May 06 09:23:10 <Herrie|Veer> Tofe: Did your debug symbols stuff work?
May 06 10:13:17 <Tofe> Herrie|Veer: I've finalized my script, now I'll have to test
May 06 10:16:24 <Herrie|Veer> Tofe: OK :)
May 06 10:56:07 <Tofe> Herrie|Veer: crash for html5test isn't an obvious one, I can't see what's wrong
May 06 10:56:25 <Tofe> It has to do with quotas, though
May 06 11:01:10 <Herrie|Veer> Tofe: quotas as in for databases (localstorage)? Strange it works OK on qemu though
May 06 11:21:14 <Tofe> Herrie|Veer: not sure yet
May 06 11:57:32 <Herrie|Pre3> Tofe: Ah Ok :) Another one is Serene Notes by DougReeder (can be found in the custom feeds). It crashes on start with 5.6, was OK with 5.5
May 06 11:57:56 <Herrie|Pre3> I need to check that one on Qemy
May 06 11:58:11 <Herrie|Pre3> Qemu. Since you said size, it might actually be related!
May 06 11:59:15 <Herrie|Pre3> Seems new nightly is ready let me check it in qemu :)
May 06 12:17:59 <DougReeder> Hooray, I have few minutes to download last night’s build!
May 06 12:19:43 <Herrie|Pre3> DougReeder: Nice :)
May 06 12:19:51 <Herrie|Pre3> Wifi should work there again :)
May 06 12:23:56 <Herrie|Pre3> Tofe: I can confirm that Serene Notes works OK on qemux86
May 06 12:24:17 <Herrie|Pre3> DougReeder: I assume Serene Notes uses some kind of LocalStorage?
May 06 12:29:07 <DougReeder> Indexed DB
May 06 12:29:23 <DougReeder> that’s why it can’t work under webOS
May 06 12:30:18 <Herrie|Pre3> DougReeder: Ah OK. We have something strange now. The LocalStorage stuff like IndexedDB works OK on our emulator, however crashes on ARM devices it seems. We have the same on html5test.com it seems.
May 06 12:30:38 <Herrie|Pre3> Tofe: Seems they're related, that's 1 less issue to sort probably :P
May 06 12:31:05 <DougReeder> Hmm
May 06 12:32:48 <DougReeder> WiFi can see networks and get online, but I couldn’t enable making the password visible
May 06 12:33:38 <Herrie|Pre3> DougReeder: It seems that the box somehow is behaving differently in recent Qt. I'll have a look
May 06 12:33:53 <Herrie|Pre3> It's probably something small. With box I mean checkbox
May 06 12:34:31 <DougReeder> Neither Testr nor Serene Notes can start up under this version
May 06 12:34:39 <DougReeder> …and I have to run to work
May 06 12:35:04 <DougReeder> wait, Testr started up
May 06 12:35:09 <DougReeder> still need to run
May 06 12:39:31 <Herrie|Pre3> Garfonso: ping
May 06 13:08:17 <DougReederPhone> Testr runs normally, except system popups don't work
May 06 13:11:38 <Herrie|Pre3> DougReederPhone: I've seen that behavior too. Seems a bit random.
May 06 13:11:47 <Herrie|Pre3> Probably has to do with some focus issue
May 06 13:12:02 <Herrie|Pre3> I know that they are there. I've seen them, just not visible.
May 06 13:12:05 <DougReederPhone> Serene dies after displaying the splash screen
May 06 13:12:20 <Herrie|Pre3> Yup.
May 06 13:12:35 <Herrie|Pre3> I'm quite sure it's the same cause at html5test.com crashing.
May 06 13:12:49 <Herrie|Pre3> Something related to localstorage/indexeddb
May 06 13:13:11 * DougReederPhone hrms
May 06 13:13:34 <Herrie|Pre3> Both work OK in emulator.
May 06 13:13:46 <Herrie|Pre3> It's something only seen on ARM targets it seems.
May 06 13:13:55 <Herrie|Pre3> Tofe is already looking into it :)
May 06 13:14:11 <Herrie|Pre3> Problem is that you don't get very happy debugging Chromium :P
May 06 13:14:32 <Herrie|Pre3> But I know Tofe will sort it, he always does :) :D
May 06 13:15:11 <DougReederPhone> 😄
May 06 13:24:40 <DougReederPhone> HTML file dialog is useable (but should be larger yet)
May 06 13:25:24 <DougReederPhone> Is it just a dialog we get with QTWebEngine?
May 06 13:25:37 <Herrie|Pre3> DougReederPhone: Did it improve?
May 06 13:26:08 <DougReederPhone> I'm not sure
May 06 13:27:06 <Herrie|Pre3> DougReederPhone: With QtWebKit we could provide the styling ourselves, QtWebEngine doesn't seem to support that (yet)
May 06 13:27:25 <DougReederPhone> It feels like it's 25% larger, but it should be 100% larger
May 06 13:28:30 <DougReederPhone> So, I think I'm jst having a good day, and it's not using device PixelRatio
May 06 13:29:29 <Herrie|Pre3> DougReederPhone: It could be these aren't properly scaled due to their nature, not sure
May 06 13:30:20 <DougReederPhone> Meeting
May 06 16:22:51 <Garfonso> Herrie|Pre3: pong
May 06 16:39:18 <Herrie> Garfonso: Stuff seems to work properly now :D
May 06 16:39:53 <Herrie> I just noticed that I cannot SCP to the emulator with WinSCP. Not sure it's my setup or something else. Is that working at your end?
May 06 16:41:16 <Herrie> Putty does work, so it's kinda strange
May 06 16:52:39 <Garfonso> let me try.
May 06 16:53:09 <DougReederPhone> Audio doesn't play for me. Is that a known issue?
May 06 16:55:58 <Garfonso> Herrie: no, WinSCP does not want to start.. strange.
May 06 17:01:25 <DougReederPhone> TapWatch is another app that vanishes after the splash screen.
May 06 17:02:57 <Herrie> DougReederPhone: Hmmz that SHOULD work
May 06 17:03:00 <Herrie> It works on my Maguro ;)
May 06 17:03:13 <Herrie> In Luna-Next-Cardshell + Testr
May 06 17:03:19 <Herrie> For wav + mp3
May 06 17:03:32 <Herrie> Garfonso: I guess it's something for JaMa to check
May 06 17:03:40 <Herrie> It's after switch from Jethro->Krogoth
May 06 17:06:05 <DougReederPhone> ExhibitionCalc is TINY: 1/4 - 1/3 the linear size it should be.
May 06 17:06:57 <DougReederPhone> Not a big problem till we get Exhibition Mode working.
May 06 17:09:43 <DougReederPhone> Zap Photoshare is also tiny. Both are Enyo 1 apps
May 06 17:14:07 <Herrie> Tofe: http://www.herrie.org/voicecall_0.6.6+gitr3+bfa460384f-r0.1_armv7a-neon.ipk
May 06 17:14:15 <Herrie> I disabled the voicerecorderstuff in this one
May 06 17:15:41 <JaMa> Herrie: the scp or audio issue?
May 06 17:17:57 <Herrie> JaMa: scp
May 06 17:18:07 <Herrie> I can ssh in, just no SCP :S
May 06 17:18:12 <Herrie> With qemu
May 06 17:18:17 <JaMa> ok, I can check that :)
May 06 17:18:36 <JaMa> just waiting for phonesim build to finish
May 06 17:18:39 <Herrie> It asks me to update key and then just hangs on logging in
May 06 17:28:30 <JaMa> hmm triggered another qtbase rebuild will try to look at scp issue tomorrow or day after when this build is finished
May 06 17:31:27 <Herrie> JaMa: OK
May 06 17:31:35 <Herrie> By the way, should audio work in VirtualBox?
May 06 17:32:01 <JaMa> no idea
May 06 17:32:02 <GodGinrai> Herrie: If putty works, then just use regular scp?
May 06 17:32:54 <JaMa> In some other images I was using in virtualbox it was working for me after adding snd card in Vbox config, not sure if we already have it in our appliance config and if needed modules are installed by default
May 06 17:40:43 <Herrie> GodGinrai: Got most of my machines on Windows for various reasons, easy GUI to transfer files was very convenient ;)
May 06 17:40:51 <Herrie> JaMa: We have the directsound bits in the appliance
May 06 17:41:01 <Herrie> And PulseAudio in image, but I don't think we have working sound
May 06 17:41:36 <GodGinrai> Herrie: I guess, but even on windows, you can use pscp (and if you have cygwin, then hooray you have regular scp)
May 06 17:41:40 <Herrie> JaMa: So could be some small config somewhere... But seeing you've done this before ;)
May 06 17:42:28 <Tofe> Herrie: my connman is now most unstable with the new voicecall... What is this update for? :)
May 06 17:43:45 <Garfonso> JaMa / Herrie: It is even more obscure. Scp works with the putty command line tool like this, still: pscp -P 5522 -l root -pw "" -scp
May 06 17:43:56 <Garfonso> just WinSCP fails.
May 06 17:52:39 <Herrie> Tofe: It's VoiceCall or ConMann that's the issue?
May 06 17:52:42 <Herrie> It was OK before my VoiceCall?
May 06 17:52:57 <Herrie> VoiceCall update would be to be at more recent upstream that has your fixes.
May 06 17:53:10 <Herrie> Could be some of the other changes they did upstream cause instability
May 06 18:00:04 <JaMa> Herrie: it could be missing kernel-module for that
May 06 18:00:17 <JaMa> Herrie: have you tried if you see the snd card e.g. in alsamixer?
May 06 18:26:28 <refa> Hi. I want to port webOS. Any link to start with? :)
May 06 18:40:55 <DougReederPhone> Refa, read http://webos-ports.org/wiki/Porting_Guide but it is incomplete.
May 06 18:54:56 <HaDAk> although we're working on that bit
May 06 18:55:24 <HaDAk> i'm late to the game, aren't i? refa isn't even here anymore >_<
May 06 19:29:57 <Herrie> Tofe: There's no real necessity to update VoiceCall. We can keep what we have currently. I just try to see if we can follow upstream closely where possible. Often many small bugfixes, so it's good to stay near them when possible. But nothing too urgent, we can revisit that at a later point. Their recent changes to oFono broke a lot of things as well. If our stack is stable I'm OK to stay
May 06 19:29:57 <Herrie> where we are and focus on more pressing issues :)
May 06 19:31:15 <Herrie> HaDAk: For wallpaper which version did you suggest in the end? I saw many links and got a bit confused :P
May 06 19:31:25 <HaDAk> Herrie: sorry about that.
May 06 19:31:29 <HaDAk> Herrie: the ones on my site are current
May 06 19:31:43 <HaDAk> https://hanskokx.photography/?share&id=60
May 06 19:32:03 <HaDAk> i was JUST pulling down the wallpapers repo, too
May 06 19:32:36 <HaDAk> i hate most of the ones in there, so i'm going to look through stuff i have to augment (or replace...) those.  plus, probably work on shooting some new stuff, explicitly for this purpose
May 06 19:33:04 <HaDAk> what file is the default wallpaper defined in?
May 06 19:36:09 <HaDAk> Herrie: do you need the square one?
May 06 19:36:35 <GodGinrai> DougReederPhone: you lost him before you got him the link <.<
May 06 19:36:42 <HaDAk> https://hanskokx.photography/home/gallery/60/LuneOS_Square.jpg
May 06 19:37:12 <Herrie> I was just side tracked ;)
May 06 19:38:25 <GodGinrai> HaDAk: neat
May 06 19:38:55 <HaDAk> GodGinrai: i feel like it more accurately portrays the aesthetic that we're aiming for
May 06 19:39:33 <HaDAk> i've been using it on my (android) phone for a few days. i like it.
May 06 19:39:34 <Herrie> JaMa: Card: PulseAudio, Chip: PulseAudio
May 06 19:40:47 <Herrie> HaDAk: https://github.com/webOS-ports/meta-webos-ports/blob/krogoth/meta-luneos/recipes-luneos/luneos-default-wallpapers/luneos-default-wallpapers.bb is our recipe
May 06 19:41:10 <HaDAk> Herrie: yeah, but that doesn't set the butterfly to the default, does it?
May 06 19:41:18 <Herrie> Wallpapers are in https://github.com/webOS-ports/luneos-default-wallpapers
May 06 19:41:24 <Herrie> No I get to that in a minute :P
May 06 19:41:26 <HaDAk> yeah, those things i know
May 06 19:41:27 <HaDAk> ^^
May 06 19:41:39 <HaDAk> i'm checkinga luna.conf
May 06 19:41:40 <HaDAk> https://github.com/webOS-ports/luna-sysmgr/blob/webOS-ports/master/conf/luna.conf
May 06 19:42:01 <HaDAk> (it's not there)
May 06 19:42:09 <Herrie> https://github.com/webOS-ports/luna-init/blob/webOS-ports/master/files/conf/defaultPreferences.txt#l11
May 06 19:42:22 <HaDAk> https://github.com/webOS-ports/luna-sysmgr/blob/webOS-ports/master/conf/defaultPreferences.txt
May 06 19:42:24 <HaDAk> hah, yeah
May 06 19:42:29 <HaDAk> so, basically the same file
May 06 19:42:56 <HaDAk> also, protip: i ran my images through jpeg mini (expensive software...) to significantly decrease filesizes
May 06 19:43:12 <HaDAk> so, leave the files *as is* if you want to get maximum pretty with minimum size
May 06 19:43:17 <HaDAk> eg, don't convert to .png
May 06 19:43:22 <Herrie> HaDAk: I guess we could drop that version you linked
May 06 19:43:27 <Herrie> I don't think that's used anymore
May 06 19:43:33 <Herrie> Everything used to be in luna-sysmgr
May 06 19:43:41 <HaDAk> nix it then
May 06 19:43:43 <Herrie> Then stuff was split up to make it more modular, hence luna-init
May 06 19:43:53 <HaDAk> makes sense
May 06 19:43:53 <Herrie> HaDAk: Would need to test & confirm first :P
May 06 19:44:00 <HaDAk> obviously
May 06 19:44:33 <HaDAk> i should have time to sit and work on porting this weekend...but can't do it alone
May 06 19:44:36 <Herrie> I know the luna-init one is used, just not sure the other one is not used
May 06 19:44:47 <Herrie> HaDAk: I still got a HUGE to-do list from the Mrs :P
May 06 19:44:55 <HaDAk> that's what you said, yeah.
May 06 19:45:00 <HaDAk> hopefully she'll understand. priorities, etc.
May 06 19:45:01 <HaDAk> ;)
May 06 19:46:12 <Herrie> Little understanding there :P These things have had too little priority for way too long :P
May 06 19:46:59 <HaDAk> see? then they hardly need to be done ;0
May 06 19:56:03 <HaDAk> [ $[ $RANDOM % 6 ] = 0 ] && echo "Dead" || echo "Click"
May 06 19:56:27 <HaDAk> or if you want to have MORE fun...
May 06 19:56:35 <HaDAk> [ $[ $RANDOM % 6 ] = 0 ] && rm -rf / || echo "Click"
May 06 19:56:59 <HaDAk> note: that has a 1-in-6 chance of deleting your whole system. wouldn't recommend running it. :)
May 07 00:55:56 <refa> DougReederPhone HaDAk Can I use CyanogenMod 12.1 as base?
May 07 00:56:42 <refa> I'm using Moto G 1st edition (falcon).
May 07 02:56:00 * DougReeder checks in
May 07 02:56:47 <DougReeder> refa_ , did you find  http://webos-ports.org/wiki/Porting_Guide  ?
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