**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Jun 15 02:59:58 2016 Jun 15 04:29:49 DougReeder: That list: It used to be small, but last time I checked pretty much anything I threw at it worked Jun 15 04:29:59 But I think that was in QtWebkit days still Jun 15 04:30:12 I don't think I did such thorough testing with QtWebEngine Jun 15 04:31:10 DougReeder: Do you know what's the difference between "regular" and "privileged" in the ls2 roles files? Jun 15 04:31:58 DougReeder: http://webos-ports.org/wiki/LuneOS_Enyo_App_Test_Results Jun 15 04:33:52 This was tested on N4 if I recall correctly Jun 15 04:34:02 UI wise TP or emulator should behave lots better Jun 15 05:37:42 Morning Jun 15 05:37:50 Tofe: morning Jun 15 05:37:55 Herrie: yes, we'd need to retest those apps Jun 15 05:38:14 Tofe: I have a couple of 1000 here on my HD ;) Jun 15 05:38:24 I think I already picked the Enyo ones Jun 15 05:38:31 So can test those sometime Jun 15 05:39:15 I've got quite some too Jun 15 05:39:30 Problem is that Preware only allows to install 1 app at the time which makes it a bit tedious ;) Jun 15 05:40:18 mmh... would it be difficult to make it import a whole directory ? Jun 15 05:40:52 Not sure Jun 15 05:41:54 Seems I have about 550 IPKS that I scraped from the App Catalog that are supposedly Enyo Jun 15 05:41:59 I know some were hybrid Jun 15 05:42:47 And a lot of them are from the same author.... ie. com.petitfute-toulouse Jun 15 05:42:58 I think it would be worth it to spend a couple of hours adding the bulk import to preware, even in a hacky way Jun 15 05:43:28 Tofe: Yeah just I have no clue how :P Jun 15 05:43:29 oh, petit-fute is a tourist guide, it must be quite old nowadays :p Jun 15 05:43:38 Preware 2 is a bit messy code wise Jun 15 05:44:09 Or we just copy the part that does an install, and put it in a quick node.js script Jun 15 05:45:01 Tofe: Well it would be good to have eventually I guess Jun 15 05:45:11 We should be simply able to tick multi boxes Jun 15 05:45:19 And install them at once Jun 15 05:45:26 Currently only can tick one it seems Jun 15 05:45:42 It's probably somewhere here: https://github.com/webOS-ports/preware/blob/master/source/PackagesMenu.js Jun 15 06:22:39 Herrie, Preware understands how to do multiple packages..we just don't use Meta-Packages Jun 15 06:23:37 it can install dependencies…therefore if we create meta-packages it should install everything necessary to deal with a whole package (or group of things) Jun 15 06:32:42 ka6sox: Yeah I saw that there was some work done for allowing installing multiple at once, just it doesn't seem hooked up Jun 15 07:08:16 Would that also work with local ipks ? Jun 15 07:17:58 morning Jun 15 07:19:31 Tofe: I think the process of installing for local and remote ipk is the same Jun 15 07:43:54 Tofe: ping Jun 15 08:11:55 Herrie|Pre3: pong Jun 15 08:19:10 Tofe: You think we should have systemd start imaccountvalidator or not? I think on legacy it wasn't auto started but not sure Jun 15 08:20:10 Is there an easy way to check if it was auto started on legacy? Jun 15 08:51:26 What does it do ? Jun 15 08:52:10 Tofe: It validates im accounts Jun 15 08:52:30 I think it shouldn't be started, but not sure where I can check legacy behavior Jun 15 08:53:17 I don't think it should be so automatic either Jun 15 09:05:51 Tofe: OK :) Jun 15 09:08:36 On legacy, can't we simply check if there was a launch script for uevent ? Jun 15 09:12:10 Tofe: Yeah let me check the Doctor Jun 15 09:15:37 Seems we only have a com.palm.imaccountvalidator.service in /usr/share/dbus-1/system-services Jun 15 09:20:57 so, launched on demand Jun 15 09:22:53 Tofe: Yup seems so. I'll update my code and PRr Jun 15 11:55:47 Herrie, I don’t recall what the difference between regular and privileged might be. Jun 15 11:57:07 DougReeder: OK.. I just couldn't really find documentation with a quick Google Jun 15 11:59:13 * DougReeder nods Jun 15 11:59:42 Anyway seems I might have sorted the issue :D Jun 15 12:02:16 Sorry, I forgot who asked about ZeroConf/Bonjour. I dont’ have docs, but I do have a call to the AP: PalmCall.call("palm://com.palm.zeroconf/", "register", { regType:"_http._tcp", interfaceName:"eth0", instanceName: humanName, port:port, textRecords: [ "path=/" ], subscribe: true }) Jun 15 12:02:19 priviledged app, you mean? Jun 15 12:03:42 Tofe: When you define the LS2 roles (the prv and pub ones) for the role you have an exeName, type and allowedNames Jun 15 12:04:00 Not sure what's the difference between regular and privileged for type Jun 15 12:49:34 ah, ok Jun 15 12:49:41 not sure either Jun 15 12:54:44 Tofe: It seems we're ok with regular. Legacy had regular too so will keep it that way. Jun 15 14:03:10 I installed the latest zip on my N4, but Apollo does not sucessfully launch. Jun 15 14:03:55 I dont have a log, since i was away from my home machine Jun 15 14:04:49 DougReederPhone: hmmz Jun 15 14:05:08 I'll give it a go in a 2-3 hrs when home. Jun 15 14:07:26 DougReederPhone: I have the etc/prefs/public_properties file now on my qemu Jun 15 14:10:31 DougReederPhone, Herrie|Pre3: note that on my N4, it didn't successfully launch either Jun 15 14:10:39 however I had no error message in the logs Jun 15 14:12:14 I don't have the ipk here to test Jun 15 14:18:12 Herrie|Pre3: you sent it to me via email, if that might help Jun 15 14:23:28 Tofe: Yeah that's on my physical sent items at home, not in the one on my webmail :P Jun 15 14:41:17 I *could* send it back :) Jun 15 14:44:44 Tofe: Yeah LOL or I can check it at home :P Jun 15 14:45:17 Anyway stable should be ready to be tested soon and release can be pushed out and we can move forward with things :) Jun 15 15:42:44 Is libpurple all hooked up properly, so we can IM using all the listed services? Jun 15 15:45:45 DougReederPhone: Not fully yet Jun 15 15:46:02 Hopefully soon. Will work more on it after release. Jun 15 15:47:24 I'll probably need some help with the c++ and Enyo 1 bits here and there Jun 15 15:47:53 We might be able to do WhatsApp too using libpurple and Telegram. Didn't really look into that yet. Jun 15 15:48:16 Was mainly busy getting fundamentals like db kinds and basic recipes into place first Jun 15 16:26:08 Shouldn't we get that working before declaring we have a stable release Jun 15 16:43:53 DougReederG3: Ideally yes, but not sure how long it would take and would like to get the release out since it's 15th already. I'll mention it in the release notes it's work-in-progress still Jun 15 17:06:14 We might consider a release schedule where the "June release" could be released any time during the month. Jun 15 17:14:18 Herrie: which issue i should look at next? Jun 15 17:17:19 nizovn: Jun 15 02:44:56 qemux86 service.calendar.reminders[581]: [] [pmlog] LS_SOCK {"ERROR_CODE":32,"ERROR":"Broken pipe","FILE":"transport.c","LINE":1943} GLIB Error and Jun 15 02:44:56 qemux86 service.calendar.reminders[581]: [] [pmlog] LS_TRANS_NET {"ERROR_CODE":32,"ERROR":"Broken pipe","FUNC":"_LSTransportSendComplete","FILE":"/usr/src/debug/luna-service2/3.9.3-1 Jun 15 17:17:19 94+gitAUTOINC+ed8fbe3a5d-r0/git/src/libluna-service2/transport.c","LINE":1943} LUNASERVICE ERROR Jun 15 17:19:40 nizovn: This will show in the journalctl, also for qemux86 Jun 15 17:19:46 seems i need help from someone who knows node.js for this Jun 15 17:20:28 sounds like somebody shutdown unexpectedly Jun 15 17:22:01 A bit more logging: https://bpaste.net/show/e15297af3d7b Jun 15 17:22:52 Could be the Jun 15 02:44:56 qemux86 ls-hubd[231]: MojoService: activityTimeout triggered Jun 15 17:22:56 Jun 15 02:44:56 qemux86 ls-hubd[231]: MojoService: quitting Jun 15 17:23:03 it looks like when service makes palmcall to itself, on activity timeout the connection gets closed, which causes error for that call Jun 15 17:23:35 https://github.com/webOS-ports/app-services/blob/webOS-ports/master/com.palm.service.calendar.reminders/on-init-handler.js#L64 Jun 15 17:24:10 i just don't know if it's ok to call other methods of the same service in js Jun 15 17:29:53 Hi, looks to me like some graphic files have gone missing: http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Main_Page e.g.: {{#icon:Icon_WebOSInternals_WebOSInternals.png|webOS 2 Upgrade|48|webOS 2 Upgrade}} Jun 15 17:31:54 Preemptive, the wiki is being worked on…it needs some help with links to images that have changed due to a plugin being deprecated and the functionality being absorbed in the main. Jun 15 17:32:36 so if you have time to help with changing the links so that they work it would be appreciated. Jun 15 17:44:23 nizovn: I also don't know ;) Jun 15 17:45:00 I did originally look at the source (to test the URL), but it seems they are in wiki format. Also, The login info I have has been rejected - I will try to re-register. Jun 15 17:46:20 So, if I can find out how to edit the links and am given the generic location of the assets, I'm happy to give it a go, but time is tight for the next few days, so next week may be better for me. Jun 15 17:49:22 Preemptive, please let me know your new user so I can give it the appropriate privileges Jun 15 17:49:45 however let me see if I can send a request to upgrade your creeds…brb Jun 15 17:51:56 Preemptive, I don't see a user that is your Nick. Jun 15 17:55:23 I didn't get a password reset email... I see no 'Create account' link. Am I missing something? Jun 15 17:55:40 no, see PM Jun 15 17:55:56 you aren't missing anything :/ Jun 15 17:57:16 Nizovn, I may be able tonight to check if I my services call other service methods. But, in general you should be able to call the js function directly. Jun 15 17:57:45 ok, thanks Jun 15 17:59:39 Preemptive, see PM Jun 15 18:15:39 Anyone who can give http://build.webos-ports.org/luneos-stable-staging/wip/images/mako/luneos-dev-package-mako.zip a try? Jun 15 18:23:14 ka6sox: Me on this IRC = Monkey attempting pilot the enterprise. Email sent. Jun 15 18:23:42 Preemptive, I've sent you Credentials Jun 15 18:23:48 let me know if they work. Jun 15 18:24:55 They do work. Thank you. I shall look into it later. Jun 15 18:30:32 Preemptive: Can you find me a nice Tobio image? Jun 15 18:32:37 How soon... ;) Jun 15 18:33:29 Today or early tomorrow? Jun 15 18:33:38 I still need to write something up & test images Jun 15 18:35:04 OK Jun 15 18:36:31 ka6sox: (Changed protection level for "Main Page" ([edit=sysop] (indefinite) [move=sysop] (indefinite))) Jun 15 18:37:09 ka6sox: So I think I need an upgrade or the page needs a downgrade - suggest the latter. Jun 15 18:37:11 Preemptive, let me ask about this. Jun 15 18:37:19 okay Jun 15 18:37:29 can you copy and we will switch after you make changes? Jun 15 18:38:23 I... guess so. It'll have to be later now, but I'll let you know. Jun 15 18:39:12 okay ping me later Jun 15 18:41:41 scoutcamper, he might need more Cow Powers Jun 15 18:43:37 as he needs to fix the homepage :) Jun 15 18:44:15 of webos-internals? Jun 15 18:44:19 yes Jun 15 18:44:37 right, but what I'm saying is I had full Mediawiki privs and still couldn't edit it Jun 15 18:45:00 interesting..I don't know then…beyond me :) Jun 15 18:45:34 and unfortunately, the old Icon extension won't work with the new MW Jun 15 18:45:42 anyhoo, i'll keep poking Jun 15 18:45:49 bbiab Jun 15 18:46:21 kk Jun 15 19:43:41 nizovn: If you want to look at something else in the meanwhile, you could see if you could write a bb recipe for https://github.com/davidgfnet/whatsapp-purple Jun 15 19:44:49 I get "make: *** No rule to make target 'install'. Stop." in my simple attempt. I see a .PHONY: install in the Makefile though. But i'm not very familiar with all this. Jun 15 19:45:25 Seems it might depend on FreeImage which doesn't seem to have a recipe either. And none of it seems documented :S Jun 15 19:46:04 This is what I used now: https://bpaste.net/show/530f01eef787 Jun 15 19:47:38 Makefiles for some of the legacy messaging plugins are at: https://github.com/wosigh/messaging-plugins/tree/master/2.0/Compiler%20Source%20Files Jun 15 19:52:15 Preemptive: can you log into webos-internals wiki? Jun 15 20:03:44 Yes, but to create a page I need to enter an email address. Doing that on the relevant page causes: Fatal error: Class 'FormatJson' not found in /usr/share/php/Mail.php on line 154 Jun 15 20:08:18 I'm assuming {{#icon:Icon_WebOSInternals_WebOSInternals.png|webOS 2 Upgrade|48|webOS 2 Upgrade}} --> [[File:Icon_WebOSInternals_WebOSInternals.png|link=|webOS 2 Upgrade]] Jun 15 20:08:24 but can't test yet Jun 15 20:10:16 can you try again, i just fixed the mail problem Jun 15 20:12:43 and yes, you assume correctly for the fix Jun 15 20:13:08 Preemptive: I just fixed the first one as an example Jun 15 20:13:32 Preemptive: also, to Edit the MainPage you have to click the History link, then change the action in the Url to edit Jun 15 20:13:45 awaiting confirmation email... Jun 15 20:17:03 it's not looking good, though the page indicated that it had sent the mail and the preferences pages tells me no more emails will be sent until I confirm... Jun 15 20:17:18 in spam? Jun 15 20:18:09 Not in Thunderbird. I'll check the web interface Jun 15 20:21:34 No spam! And no confirmation email... :( Jun 15 20:23:15 Ah! Got it! i guess it was just very slow Jun 15 20:26:33 great Jun 15 20:27:13 I still don't have permission to edit (changed "=history" to "=edit"), so I will copy. Jun 15 20:31:38 Preemptive: I gave you access for now, try again Jun 15 20:34:48 Ok. I changed {{icon: to [[file: and selectively did the trailing brackets. Seems OK. Jun 15 20:35:08 perfect Jun 15 20:35:24 the header is still broken Jun 15 20:35:26 No the top box Jun 15 20:35:35 right Jun 15 20:35:37 yup i guess it's a template Jun 15 20:35:48 I'll look further Jun 15 20:44:04 Herrie: I'm booting the latest mako image Jun 15 20:44:12 sound is working Jun 15 20:48:03 Wifi OK, Phone OK, Preware is working, notifications ok, gps ok, app menu ok, system menu ok Jun 15 20:48:07 --> good to go! Jun 15 21:13:01 Seems OK. unless there are other pages... possibly something wrong at the bottom of the left side bar Osl.png and stray google link. I don't know how to get at this part Jun 15 21:19:12 OK there ARE other faulty pages. I'll do the obvious ones. If any one knows how to easily find others let me know Jun 15 21:21:30 not sure of an easy way to find them Jun 15 21:21:43 there is a template for the left hand column Jun 15 21:32:35 note that i haven't fixed all of the extensions yet Jun 15 21:33:41 and some extensions may never work as they are so old they were abandoned by the developer and do not work with the new version of mediawiki Jun 15 22:09:06 The Tux template that places small penguin pictures to the right - I got as far as displaying the alt text, but not the images or not aligned right, so I reverted and will look at it later. Most of the links from the main page lokk OK for now Jun 15 22:56:47 Does IM work with any provider? Jun 16 02:10:01 I mean, is there an IM provider that works yet? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Jun 16 02:59:58 2016