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Mar 06 08:01:05 <Tofe> Morning!
Mar 06 08:14:37 <Herrie|Pre3> morning
Mar 06 15:04:18 <shiggitay> Hello all
Mar 06 15:07:20 <Herrie|Pre3> Hi
Mar 06 15:07:51 <shiggitay> Herrie|Pre3, heyo
Mar 06 15:08:06 <shiggitay> Have you installed LuneOS on a supported device before? If so how functional and stable is it?
Mar 06 15:09:07 <Herrie|Pre3> shiggytay: Functional: email, sms, calls, calendar works.. IM needs work. Has some quirks here and there but quite stable overall. But not daily driver stable.
Mar 06 15:09:48 <shiggitay> ah
Mar 06 15:10:04 <shiggitay> My TouchPad hasn't been used in like a year lol
Mar 06 15:10:20 <shiggitay> I'm trying to charge it up using the TouchStone dock
Mar 06 15:10:25 <shiggitay> So far it's taking years to charge
Mar 06 17:53:36 <Tofe> Are there some key UI design guide for webOS ?
Mar 06 17:54:54 <Tofe> (when to use sliding panes, buttons, presenting options...)
Mar 06 18:47:11 <Herrie|Pre3> Tofe: There is the "Zen of Palm"
Mar 06 18:47:25 <Herrie|Pre3> I think the link was here sometime
Mar 06 18:47:39 <Herrie|Pre3> But it was more generic principles I think, not specific.
Mar 06 18:47:48 <Herrie|Pre3> Out for dinner now, can check when home.
Mar 06 18:49:58 <Tofe> ok, have a nice dinner :)
Mar 06 18:53:14 <Herrie|Pre3> Argentinean steak :P Could be a lot worse :P
Mar 06 20:00:50 <Herrie> Home
Mar 06 20:00:58 <Herrie> Tofe: YOu have Zen of Palm?
Mar 06 20:02:40 <Herrie> http://designingmlearning.com/resources/ZenOfPalm.pdf
Mar 06 20:04:43 <Tofe> I don't think so, I'll have a look :)
Mar 06 20:05:55 <Herrie> It's more about principles, not really about how & when yo use panes, buttons etc
Mar 06 20:05:59 <Herrie> But it's a nice read
Mar 06 20:06:21 <Herrie> There's this for TV's: http://enyojs.com/docs/latest/developer-guide/design/webOS/principles.html
Mar 06 20:06:29 <Herrie> But not sure it's really applicable for smaller devices
Mar 06 20:06:40 <Herrie> DougReeder: ^ might have some more sources
Mar 06 20:08:53 <Tofe> Herrie: after some wandering on the web, I was thinking I could maybe adapt Ubuntu's camera app to LuneOS
Mar 06 20:09:20 <Tofe> It's a bit of work, but it could be a nice result
Mar 06 20:09:35 <Herrie> Tofe: I haven't seen the Ubuntu one
Mar 06 20:09:49 <Tofe> http://news.softpedia.com/news/Camera-App-for-Ubuntu-Touch-Gets-Major-Improvements-471656.shtml#sgal_0
Mar 06 20:10:44 <Herrie> Looks like a good start
Mar 06 20:11:02 <Herrie> UI needs to be LuneOS-ified but looks like quite some features otherwise
Mar 06 20:11:10 <Tofe> Ideally this app would be html, but that would be a good app until we have that part
Mar 06 20:11:48 <Herrie> Tofe: Well nothing is wrong with QML
Mar 06 20:11:50 <Tofe> I'm really not sure how complex it would be to connect qtwebengine and the camera infrastructure :p
Mar 06 20:11:52 <Herrie> Why would you want HTML?
Mar 06 20:12:10 <Tofe> oh, just looks like webOS-ish, that's all :)
Mar 06 20:30:40 <Herrie> Ah :)
Mar 06 20:30:47 <Herrie> I thought that's why we're doing QML styling?
Mar 06 21:20:43 <Herrie> Tofe: For a camera app which should have really simple UI, I think QML might actually be better/easier
Mar 06 21:21:07 <Herrie> HTML makes more sense for apps with lots of transitions, lists etc like email, calendar etc
Mar 06 21:30:38 <Tofe> Herrie: I agree
Mar 06 21:31:08 <Tofe> I'm just trying not to push qml too much, in case it would frustrate some old fans of webos out there ;)
Mar 06 21:33:03 <Tofe> Anyway, I'll do that app in QML ;)
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