**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Apr 16 03:00:03 2017 Apr 16 23:48:26 The idea of halium ( https://tinyurl.com/halium) is nice. How close is that proposed stack to ours? Apr 16 23:53:29 *If* (and that’s a big if) it succeeded, we wouldn’t need to spend so much effort on the lower layers, and so could concetrate on the service and application layers that diffentiate LuneOS. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Apr 17 03:00:01 2017