**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Apr 30 03:00:02 2017 Apr 30 07:24:12 Tofe: Evervolv should have full CM that we could use for a minimalistic build Apr 30 07:25:14 Herrie: we can always give it a try Apr 30 08:26:11 Evervolv has pretty good Android builds normally Apr 30 08:26:17 So I wouldn't expect too many isuses Apr 30 08:30:33 I wonder if their 3.4 kernel would work with a 4.4 android base ? Apr 30 08:31:01 After all, the drivers must be the same, HP didn't provide any for 5.1 Apr 30 08:33:25 and https://github.com/Evervolv/android_kernel_hp_tenderloin is an Andoird 4.4.4 kernel 3.4 Apr 30 08:33:57 I say, let's give it a try Apr 30 08:34:16 Well they also have a lolipop 5.1 branch Apr 30 08:34:16 who knows, maybe it'll work out of the box Apr 30 08:34:34 Herrie: yes, but ultimately what we want is the kernel Apr 30 08:34:42 Tofe: Yup Apr 30 08:34:52 But would be good to have all on CM 12.1 based I mean Apr 30 08:34:53 if we can spare an Android rebuild, well, I'm for it :) Apr 30 08:35:02 So we can drop the CM11 altogether ;) Apr 30 08:35:06 If we drop Maguro anyway Apr 30 08:35:18 Well, that's a good point Apr 30 08:35:47 Though people have said that 4.4.4 is still most stable on TP Apr 30 08:35:52 but evervolv is based on aosp, and HP patched the Android graphic API so that in the end, we can't really have the same build Apr 30 08:36:25 Herrie: yes, I tried 5.1 and 6.0 during the winter: I had wakeup issues (which is a problem for an alarm clock !) Apr 30 08:36:37 Tofe: Yup that's true Apr 30 08:36:43 4.4 is flawless Apr 30 08:37:05 (except the old Android code, of course) Apr 30 08:37:24 Well I guess 4.4 is the way to go for now then and we can always at a later point look at 12.1/13.0 if needed? Apr 30 08:37:46 I agree Apr 30 08:38:13 I wish I could do more on kernel level :'( Apr 30 08:38:18 But I'm really clueless there :S Apr 30 08:38:39 I'd like to stabilize pyro, have ofono working, then switch to Qt 5.7/5.8, and then I'm happy Apr 30 08:39:16 so what about systemd? Apr 30 08:39:29 Tofe: Yeah that should keep us happy for quite some time Apr 30 08:39:42 https://github.com/Tofee/meta-webos-ports/commit/e641adfd7c4e2f108c6721733befa1c7aa2f69cb Apr 30 08:39:45 nizovn: ^ Apr 30 08:40:31 I think that'll be my policy from now on: we keep the latest systemd from OE, with the fixes it includes, but disable the functionalities that involve a newer kernel Apr 30 08:40:42 I do hope that's a realistic path Apr 30 08:42:55 ok, sounds good Apr 30 08:44:51 oh and if someone wants to step up and shape up a 3.4 maguro kernel, please do :) Apr 30 08:46:02 but otherwise, it'll be a nearly EOL for this target... I guess we can still build it, and just ignore the fact that bluetooth won't work; but if it becomes too much trouble, then it'll just be dropped. Apr 30 08:49:01 Tofe: You reckon it will still work with systemd without 3.4 kernel? Apr 30 08:49:51 glibc 2.24 won't work (out of the box) with >3.2 kernel Apr 30 08:50:02 <3.2 Apr 30 08:53:09 ah... well, then... **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon May 01 03:00:00 2017