**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon May 01 03:00:01 2017 May 01 05:41:50 Hello, I am visiting here from B2G OS community. May 01 05:42:38 While I am not any of the leaders of that community, how Qt is being used LuneOS? May 01 09:37:28 Morning May 01 09:51:18 Tofe: Is it correct camera doesn't launch on TP? May 01 14:20:21 reinhartpreviano: ping May 01 14:30:34 Sorry for re-asking, how qt is being used in luneos? May 01 14:30:56 I was disconnected from the server May 01 14:31:17 reinhartpreviano: Was waiting for you to return. May 01 14:31:28 To answer your question: We use it for our OS UI May 01 14:31:38 ok May 01 14:32:04 Besides that for apps as well like browser which is qml + qtwebengine for rendering May 01 14:32:12 Ok May 01 14:32:25 Also qtwebengine is used for rendering our webOS apps May 01 14:33:07 Well, some of you may notice that I suggest the b2g OS community to merge with Open webOS May 01 14:33:37 At that time, I just found the Lune OS project, and edit the proposal May 01 14:34:35 reinhartpreviano: Well Open webOS as such is not actively developed in the open anymore by LG May 01 14:34:50 However, on the community side, they said that the qt dependency might be a problem for them, May 01 14:35:17 Since they wanted to make an OS fully made of web technologies May 01 14:36:27 Just a short info, B2G OS is made to revive the old Firefox OS, another web based OS. May 01 14:38:31 Well you need something to render the OS May 01 14:38:41 We decided to use Qt for that with QtWebengine May 01 14:38:53 Okay. They used Gecko instead May 01 14:38:55 Jolla/SFOS uses Qt with Gecko May 01 14:39:20 Their OS UI is being made just from JS and CSS May 01 14:40:08 Well webOS had that previously as well but HP/Palm switched to Qt with C++/QML May 01 14:40:29 For UI and HTML/JS/CSS for apps May 01 14:40:48 We additionally can do Qt C++/QML apps out of the box May 01 14:42:58 Anyway, I tried using the Qemu build for Chai Latte, and it seems that the package manager has few UI problems. May 01 14:43:28 Specifically, the menu screen size is too small May 01 14:43:35 reinhartpreviano: You mean Preware? Yes that needs some tlc May 01 14:43:44 Yes May 01 14:45:09 We follow a similar approach to Jolla/SFOS, Ubuntu Touch, Plasma Mobile. Just we use a different build system mainly. May 01 14:45:23 We use Yocto/OpenEmbedded with Qt layers May 01 14:45:32 While others have their own build systemss May 01 14:46:56 Someone there thought to embed something called GeckoView in the Android SystemUI way, and it requires Java instead. May 01 14:48:11 There are different ways to achieve what's desired, we specifically chose not to use the Android Java bits (similar to the other OS-es) May 01 14:49:19 And few more questions about Enyo, does Enyo contain the UI code for LuneOS? May 01 14:50:00 Enyo is basically a JS framework with UI elements May 01 14:50:09 That scales on mobile & other screens May 01 14:50:30 I.e. legacy webOS 3.x apps were mainly written in EnyoJS 1.0 May 01 14:50:47 LG uses EnyoJS 2.x for their TV apps on webOS May 01 14:51:20 I thought to make a fork of Material Design Guidelines f May 01 14:51:41 for webapp ui standard for other platforms May 01 14:52:00 However Enyo is going through quite some changes and seems will more likely be some add-on onto ReactJS going forward with "Enyo 3.0" or next-gen May 01 14:52:17 Ok. Thanks. May 01 14:52:50 Each OS has their own UI and look and feel May 01 14:53:13 We mainly use Onyx in Enyo which originates from webOS May 01 14:53:32 And in Qt we're creating our own "theme" so to say May 01 20:28:50 Charged and flashed a new LuneOS image onto my N4 for the first time in a month or so, then found a pivotCE article announcing it's a new release. Good timing! **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue May 02 03:00:01 2017