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Aug 20 06:59:12 <PMOunet> Hello!
Aug 20 06:59:44 <Herrie> Morning!
Aug 20 06:59:49 <Herrie> PMOunet: Hi
Aug 20 07:00:14 <PMOunet> I'm new to LuneOS, and I'm having issues getting it running on my TP.
Aug 20 07:00:18 <PMOunet> Can you help?
Aug 20 07:00:46 <PMOunet> Basically, installing it is easy, I get it to boot, but at the "First Use" thing, I can't do anything.
Aug 20 07:05:19 <Herrie> PMOunet: Hmmz that's weird
Aug 20 07:05:25 <Herrie> I tried it recently and worked fine for me
Aug 20 07:05:37 <Herrie> You mean that touch input doesn't work?
Aug 20 07:05:38 <PMOunet> Does it work on the non-4G TP ?
Aug 20 07:05:44 <Herrie> Yeah it should
Aug 20 07:05:51 <Herrie> It should work on both wifi and 4g
Aug 20 07:05:54 <PMOunet> The volume buttons work. lol
Aug 20 07:05:57 <Herrie> Just on 4G data doesn't work
Aug 20 07:05:58 <PMOunet> But that's it. Ô_ô
Aug 20 07:06:07 <Herrie> You might want to reboot
Aug 20 07:06:14 <Herrie> We have some screen power issue on latest TP build
Aug 20 07:06:17 <PMOunet> The screen also rotates when necessary.
Aug 20 07:06:23 <Herrie> Or you can try a previous release
Aug 20 07:06:44 <PMOunet> I have tried both the latest stable and latest nightly.
Aug 20 07:07:14 <Herrie> You might want to give a previous stable a try
Aug 20 07:07:19 <Herrie> http://build.webos-ports.org/releases/coldbrew/images/tenderloin/
Aug 20 07:07:24 <PMOunet> I'll try right away!
Aug 20 07:07:24 <Herrie> Just to see if that one works
Aug 20 07:07:41 <Herrie> We did large underlying updates in the last release and still have some bugs to kill
Aug 20 07:07:46 <Herrie> So want to make sure it's not due to that
Aug 20 07:08:43 <PMOunet> Cool! :)
Aug 20 07:08:48 <PMOunet> Gimme a few minutes to try it out.
Aug 20 07:14:30 <PMOunet> Any idea where I could gind Tailor 0.3.1 or higher ?
Aug 20 07:15:22 <Herrie> It's in the alpha feed of webos internals ;)
Aug 20 07:15:41 <Herrie> Which you need to enable with http://webos-internals.org/index.php?title=Testing_Feeds
Aug 20 07:17:06 <Herrie> JaMa: http://code.qt.io/cgit/yocto/meta-qt5.git/commit/?id=5bac910f95453d0df6fe540778dd16a9707dcabf that might solve you QEMU issue?
Aug 20 07:19:17 <Herrie> JaMa: Seems I also have found one of the sources of my issues with qtwebengine: The examples rely on qtquickcontrols2, however it's not in DEPENDS in the qtwebengine recipe.
Aug 20 07:19:33 <Herrie> JaMa: So retesting again a webengine rebuild :P
Aug 20 07:44:22 <PMOunet> Alright, moment of truth
Aug 20 07:46:38 <PMOunet> Aaaaaaaand nope :(
Aug 20 07:53:33 <Herrie|TP> Touch input doesn't work?
Aug 20 07:53:43 <Herrie|TP> I never head that issue before tbh
Aug 20 07:54:07 <Herrie|TP> s/head/heard
Aug 20 07:54:17 <PMOunet> Nope
Aug 20 07:54:20 <PMOunet> BUT
Aug 20 07:55:22 <PMOunet> The power button does now work to turn off the screen AND I can use the "Home" button to minimize the "First Use" screen, although I can't remove it or do anything with it.
Aug 20 07:56:01 <PMOunet> Just in case, I've wiped everything using TP Toolbox and am reinstalling WebOS with WebOS Doctor.
Aug 20 07:56:23 <PMOunet> Than I'll be abe to use Tailor 0.3.1 instead of 0.3.0 to set things up.
Aug 20 07:57:08 <PMOunet> Question tho : what about the "module" file that's always available with the other downloadable files ? It doesn't say anything about that one in the instructions.
Aug 20 07:57:51 <Herrie> You don't need that
Aug 20 07:58:03 <Herrie> Doctor might help since it would recalibrate touchscreen
Aug 20 07:58:21 <PMOunet> Thats what I thought about modules.
Aug 20 07:59:20 <Herrie> Well modules is included in uImage in general
Aug 20 07:59:48 <PMOunet> Ok
Aug 20 08:00:02 <PMOunet> I'll be back when Im done.
Aug 20 08:00:28 <PMOunet> Are these really OK : http://webos-ports.org/wiki/Install_LuneOS_for_Tenderloin
Aug 20 08:02:38 <Herrie|TP> They should be fine. I used them myself many times
Aug 20 09:23:54 <JaMa> Herrie: In latest jansa/master-5.9-rebase I should have it
Aug 20 09:24:22 <JaMa> Herrie: wasn't your example related to print? I had to add another patch for qtwebengine-5.9.0 for it (but it's included in 5.9.2 already)
Aug 20 09:38:20 <Herrie> JaMa: I'm doing 5.9.2 webengine
Aug 20 09:39:22 <Herrie> It were the examples but further digging up showed it was missing the qtquickcontrols2 at https://github.com/meta-qt5/meta-qt5/blob/jansa/master-5.9-rebase/recipes-qt/qt5/qtwebengine_git.bb#L19
Aug 20 09:39:32 <Herrie> Doesn't seem to be in your rebase either?
Aug 20 09:39:37 <Herrie> Or maybe you put it elsewhere?
Aug 20 10:57:34 <JaMa> Herrie: no, I probably didn't but with RSS we should both be seeing the same issue
Aug 20 10:58:10 <JaMa> Herrie: my previous build was still with 5.9.0, maybe I'll hit this issue now (building 5.9.2 webengine first time, because during night it failed on qtbase already..)
Aug 20 11:00:11 <Herrie> JaMa: OK, you doing 5.9.2 now too?
Aug 20 11:00:30 <Herrie> Could be they updated the demobrowser etc to qtquickcontrols2 between 5.9.0 and 5.9.2
Aug 20 11:00:34 <Herrie> Didn't check that
Aug 20 11:00:51 <JaMa> yes, 5.9.2 is now in jansa/master-5.9-rebase
Aug 20 11:00:56 <JaMa> and I'm building it locally
Aug 20 11:01:29 <Herrie> JaMa: OK, that's just for webengine or whole qt?
Aug 20 11:01:31 <JaMa> https://github.com/meta-qt5/meta-qt5/commit/102dee56a5b1a34ba66d88e5a37ceb540864ef1f this was needed with 5.9.0
Aug 20 11:01:46 <JaMa> https://github.com/meta-qt5/meta-qt5/commit/81bd93afe7a50fbe238e12ee9e7885da8854f1eb this is 5.9.2 for everything
Aug 20 11:03:04 <Herrie> JaMa: How does QT identify us? As embedded linux or.... ?
Aug 20 11:03:16 <JaMa> the build system?
Aug 20 11:03:17 <Herrie> I might have figured why my plugins like Pepper flash didn't work :P
Aug 20 11:03:37 <Herrie> JaMa: Yeah, in some of the QT files it does checks for embedded linux
Aug 20 11:03:44 <JaMa> see recipes-qt/qt5/qtbase/0001-Add-linux-oe-g-platform.patch
Aug 20 11:04:43 <JaMa> and recipes-qt/qt5/qtwebengine/0001-functions.prf-allow-build-for-linux-oe-g-platform.patch
Aug 20 11:17:22 <Herrie> JaMa: Let me dig through what I found and report back. First putting someone to bed :P
Aug 20 12:43:43 <Herrie> nizovn: ping
Aug 20 12:56:27 <nizovn> Herrie: pong
Aug 20 12:59:19 <Herrie> nizovn: Not sure you saw, but at 17:00 GMT (20:00 Moscow time) there's an online meeting in #webos on legacy webOS and support
Aug 20 12:59:24 <Herrie> You might want to join if you have time
Aug 20 12:59:34 <Herrie> I'm sure browser will be brought up
Aug 20 12:59:43 <Herrie> Not sure what I can share already?
Aug 20 13:00:32 <nizovn> yes, i will join
Aug 20 13:00:37 <Herrie> JaMa: For 5.9.2 seems they cleaned up licenses
Aug 20 13:00:47 <Herrie> So I'm getting errors on local build butshould be easy to fix
Aug 20 13:02:40 <nizovn> Herrie: i have browser working (very slow), but currently i have problems with writing web app for launching browser with root rights
Aug 20 13:03:00 <nizovn> planning to ask some help from web developers
Aug 20 13:05:06 <Herrie> nizovn: Ah
Aug 20 13:05:19 <Herrie> nizovn: I'm not surprised it's somewhat slow
Aug 20 13:05:26 <Herrie> The Telegram client was also slow
Aug 20 13:05:40 <Herrie> JaMa: Seems they updated licenses in the qt.io meta-qt5
Aug 20 13:08:11 <Herrie> nizovn: If you make your app id com.palm.newbrowser? That might help to get some things fixed?
Aug 20 13:08:16 <Herrie> Or you tried that already?
Aug 20 13:08:29 <Herrie> com.palm.app.newbrowser that should be
Aug 20 13:09:57 <Tofe> Morning!
Aug 20 13:13:35 <nizovn> Herrie: not tried that yet
Aug 20 13:15:14 <nizovn> hm, that will require qt rebuild that i don't want...
Aug 20 13:27:20 <nizovn> Herrie: wow, thanks to your questions i finally found way to launch it :)
Aug 20 13:27:38 <Herrie> Tofe: Morning!
Aug 20 13:27:57 <Herrie> nizovn: Yeah the com.palm.app.xxxx or com.palm.service.xxx does miracles at time
Aug 20 13:28:04 <Herrie> Since they have all permissions ;)
Aug 20 13:28:14 <nizovn> Herrie: nope
Aug 20 13:28:17 <Herrie> Tofe: Seems we're making progress with the 5.9
Aug 20 13:28:22 <Herrie> nizovn: Well more at least
Aug 20 13:28:38 <Herrie> Compared to ordinary apps
Aug 20 13:28:41 * DougReeder waves
Aug 20 13:28:48 <nizovn> i looked at app launcher code, and it turned out that it reset needed env variables
Aug 20 13:28:56 <Herrie> You'd still need to do various other things I guess
Aug 20 13:29:06 <Herrie> DougReeder: Hi
Aug 20 13:29:22 <nizovn> i didn't change name
Aug 20 13:29:24 <Herrie> Tofe: Now building bleeding edge 5.9.2 :P
Aug 20 13:29:49 <nizovn> nope means it was another reason, i agree name matters somewhere in lunasysmgr code
Aug 20 13:30:09 <nizovn> name means app id
Aug 20 13:30:38 <nizovn> https://github.com/openwebos/luna-sysmgr/blob/1393f0af5dd8d9f0e9cc79627f4acb226f8c8d45/Src/remote/IpcServer.cpp#L298
Aug 20 13:33:40 <Herrie> nizovn: Not only in sysmgr it seems
Aug 20 15:44:01 <JaMa> Herrie: I've updated some today where LIC_FILES_CHKSUM was failing
Aug 20 15:44:18 <JaMa> Herrie: if they have more updates, they should upstream it :)
Aug 20 17:10:55 <Tofe> Herrie: great! I'm back at home, I'll be able to rebuild the current testing and test more seriously my qtquickcontrols2 changes
Aug 20 17:22:37 <PMOunet> Herrie : You there?
Aug 20 17:28:59 <Herrie> PMOunet: Yes
Aug 20 17:29:19 <PMOunet> Herrie : How are you doing today?
Aug 20 17:29:50 <Herrie> PMOunet: Good you?
Aug 20 17:30:06 <PMOunet> Herrie : Oh well, still fighting with my TP... :'(
Aug 20 17:30:33 <PMOunet> Herrie : A complete reset didn't do anything. Still the same issue.
Aug 20 17:31:19 <PMOunet> Herrie : I've tried Cortana and Cold Brew. I'm about to try Chai Latte.
Aug 20 17:43:43 <PMOunet> Where do I report this ?
Aug 20 17:54:52 <PMOunet> Chai Latte reacts the same way Cold Brew does.  I can use the Home button to minimize/maximize the "First Use" card, but I cannot do anything with the touch screen.  The power button works, but all it does is close/turn on the screen. And once I've used it, the "First Use" card disappears, along with the bottom menu.
Aug 20 18:02:49 <nizovn> PMOunet: do the touch work in webOS/android?
Aug 20 18:03:40 <PMOunet> Yup! :)
Aug 20 18:04:04 <PMOunet> Besides being a bit slow in Android 5+, it works great!
Aug 20 18:04:08 <PMOunet> WebOS is great!
Aug 20 18:04:17 <PMOunet> The only thing not working is the camera.
Aug 20 18:26:52 <Herrie> PMOunet: Weird
Aug 20 18:26:56 <Herrie> I haven't seen thisbefore
Aug 20 18:26:58 <Herrie> Really weird
Aug 20 18:27:25 <PMOunet> Tell me about it ;)
Aug 20 18:29:09 <PMOunet> I'm rather tech savyy, so if there's anything you'd like me to try or obtain for you to diagnose the issue or something, let me know! :)
Aug 20 18:43:26 <Herrie> THere is something called PmTpUpdater that you can use in webOS
Aug 20 18:43:35 <Herrie> It has some command line parameters
Aug 20 18:43:44 <Herrie> -f -g -a -h if I recall correctly
Aug 20 18:43:50 <Herrie> Don't remember what each one does though
Aug 20 18:46:07 <PMOunet> What is PmTpUdater ?
Aug 20 18:50:31 <Herrie> It basically forces a firmare update for touchpanel
Aug 20 19:05:25 <PMOunet> And using WebOS Doctor to fully reset the TP doesn't do ?
Aug 20 19:06:53 <Herrie> PMOunet: It should normally really
Aug 20 20:51:46 * DougReeder checks in
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