**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Sep 21 03:00:03 2017 Sep 21 06:07:03 Morning! Sep 21 06:39:31 Tofe: ping Sep 21 07:30:20 Morning! Sep 21 07:30:22 Herrie|Laptop: pong Sep 21 07:50:19 Tofe: Not sure you replied anything in channel here yesterday evening, seems logger was offline for some time and I wasn't logged in Sep 21 07:50:54 Tofe: Also finally managed to get LuneOS Components working here locally (I need to move the created .dll though, so not ideal). Just I noticed that I don't get any styling in FirstUse Sep 21 07:51:03 Also no error/missing files etc output Sep 21 07:54:16 Herrie|Laptop: no, I was very quiet yesterday, I tried debugging the "Back" gesture Sep 21 07:54:51 Herrie|Laptop: you are using the "-style" argument, right? Sep 21 08:03:58 Tofe: Ah I might have missed that one :P Sep 21 08:04:04 What I need to put again? Sep 21 08:04:17 Documentation needs updating I think :P Sep 21 08:04:21 Happy to do that Sep 21 08:08:24 put the relative path to the LuneOS style directory Sep 21 08:12:00 Ah ok Sep 21 08:12:14 I'll try after breakfast Sep 21 08:12:27 Any clues as to back gesture? Sep 21 08:25:30 looks like the qml webengineview doesn't get the key Sep 21 08:25:43 or doesn't have really the focus somehow Sep 21 08:25:52 on the wayland layer, it seems to be ok though Sep 21 08:41:04 Hmmz the focus sounds like something we had before Sep 21 08:41:09 For webengine I mean Sep 21 08:41:22 I recall we needed to patch that sometime in past Sep 21 08:41:33 You also saw my compositor log? Sep 21 09:03:54 Herrie|Pre3: yes, but that's "normal" log output Sep 21 09:04:07 Tofe: OK hmmz Sep 21 09:04:23 It's just preceding the actual crash Sep 21 09:04:27 maybe only the "Bad file descriptor" could be investigated more Sep 21 09:05:48 Not sure this happens on Hammerhead too Sep 21 09:05:54 Will play around a bit more Sep 21 09:06:02 Seems more noticeable on TP for sure Sep 21 09:07:37 for TP the display caf driver doesn't seem very reliable to me Sep 21 09:08:17 The 12.1 build is still a big hack to get old code working on newer android Sep 21 09:13:41 I see Sep 21 09:35:05 Tofe: Seems that https://github.com/invisiblek/android_hardware_qcom_display/commits/cm-12.1-caf-8660 has a few more commits compared to ours Sep 21 09:35:10 Might be worth to give it a try Sep 21 09:36:20 The same is at CM 12.1 actually: https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_hardware_qcom_display/commits/cm-12.1-caf-8660 Sep 21 09:44:09 MartinHov: Morning! Sep 21 09:44:24 For the sound in VIrtualBox: I don't think we ever properly tested that tbh Sep 21 09:45:09 Morning! Sep 21 09:46:07 Herrie: should the sound work on TP LuneOS as of today ? ( I never tried LuneOS on TP yet .. ) Sep 21 09:46:55 MartinHov: It should Sep 21 09:47:17 * : about testing in general: Do you want me to post testing results / questions here in this chat or better open a thread on MN ? Sep 21 10:03:16 MartinHov: Post here first Sep 21 10:03:44 If a real bug/feature request we also have: http://issues.webos-ports.org/ Sep 21 10:13:12 Herrie: ok - post here first. And right I even have account at http://issues.webos-ports.org/ (almost forgot about) - for real bugs, fine. Sep 21 10:15:31 and post bugs for released versions only? not for intermediate - like current testing images ? Sep 21 10:44:56 Herrie|Laptop: interesting Sep 21 10:45:28 Herrie|Laptop: ah, but that's not the caf one -- though it could work as well Sep 21 10:46:20 MartinHov: questions about testing builds are fine, though it'd better be a quite recent testing build, in that case Sep 21 10:47:13 For TP things haven't changed for about a month now, though, but we moved to our own build of Halium, it might bring unintended bugs Sep 21 10:52:46 Tofe: That was caf, see branch name Sep 21 10:52:57 Just doesn't have caf in repo name anymore Sep 21 10:53:13 I guess they merged them and just differentiated with branches Sep 21 10:53:54 So they have caf and non-caf in same repo just with different branch names Sep 21 11:08:29 ok Sep 21 11:08:34 so yes, worth a try Sep 21 11:33:43 Most newer commits don't seem to be of that much help but who knows Sep 21 11:35:10 and we'll still need our two commits Sep 21 12:27:09 btw - I run quemux86 for a day now - and now it displays notification: "System update available New version 362" : is this just for demo? Sep 21 12:29:49 MartinHov: Ehm we need to fix the system update mechanism sometime :) Sep 21 12:30:40 ok, so it is more a kind of demo today .. Sep 21 12:39:44 Yup Sep 21 12:40:03 Well the notification works, actual update not :P Sep 21 12:47:57 Tofe: I'll add the caf-cm-12 branch + 2 patches so we can test it Sep 21 12:48:01 sure - my LuneOS in vbox just crashed .. - well I just restart the image .. Sep 21 12:48:30 MartinHov: When trying to update? Sep 21 12:55:08 Tofe: Should be back at our place soon so can do that in a bit Sep 21 13:03:12 Herrie: crash happened when using the Settings app: looking at System Updates, About and so .. | I assume it just happened at that time because of other issues - like little memory allocation ... error message was about some wrong mem pointer. It was more a vbox issue - not a LuneOS I assume .. Sep 21 13:05:49 Well - the LuneOS apps also need some care at some time : Eg. the About "Software Lic" does not show content and it has no back button. I need to kill Settings app and restart it. Sep 21 13:11:41 Herrie|Laptop: ok, thanks Sep 21 14:37:46 Tofe: https://github.com/webOS-ports/android/tree/wop-halium-5.1-tenderloin Sep 21 14:51:48 Tofe: I updated your Tofe Jenkins job to point to this and scheduled it to run after JaMa's unstable finishes Sep 21 14:51:58 But you might be able to do it quicker :P Sep 21 14:52:06 Unstable looks like it'll take a while still Sep 21 15:10:44 I hate to divert attention, but has anyone seen this: http://www.planetcom.co.uk/ Sep 21 15:24:25 novaldex: Nice Sep 21 15:24:29 I would use it Sep 21 15:24:44 Seeing it runs Android & linux, LuneOS should be a viable option too ;) Sep 21 15:24:45 A colleague of mine is drooling over it & it reminds me of the old Psion days Sep 21 15:24:49 (plus designed by the same) Sep 21 15:25:02 Herrie|Laptop: just what I was thinking! ;-) Sep 21 15:25:26 Ah designed by Psion people Sep 21 15:25:27 ? Sep 21 15:25:54 yes, plus the register has a review of a prototype from last week too Sep 21 15:26:02 :) Sep 21 15:29:09 Price is reasonable I'd say Sep 21 15:29:16 $399 is a very sharp price Sep 21 15:29:48 I was reading that, seems for early backers they're offering $200 discount Sep 21 15:29:56 I like the $510 option, with the extars Sep 21 15:29:59 *extras Sep 21 15:32:35 Too bad they dropped NFC though :( Sep 21 15:33:27 ah, hadn't noticed that yet.. Sep 21 15:35:13 And fingerprint scanner but I don't care too much about that one Sep 21 15:35:20 It's more gimmicky anyway Sep 21 15:35:29 NFC is useful though for payments etc Sep 21 15:36:22 NFC isn't something I use just now, so I think I could do without Sep 21 15:37:41 I use it sometimes on N4 for payments, saves taking bank card Sep 21 15:37:43 But yeah Sep 21 15:46:29 Herrie|Laptop, which repos do you need the access to? (can you paste them here?) Sep 21 15:46:49 working with novaldex to sort this. Sep 21 15:50:42 https://github.com/webos-internals/patches Sep 21 15:50:55 https://github.com/webos-internals/meta-doctor Sep 21 15:51:07 https://github.com/webos-internals/build Sep 21 15:51:17 That should do for our legacy webOS maintenance project Sep 21 15:52:01 And then we'd also still need to have these imported to Internals: http://github.com/wosigh Sep 21 15:52:16 "Rescued" those from the old git.webos-internals.org Sep 21 15:53:09 ka6sox: ^ Sep 21 15:54:52 Thanks...captured Sep 21 16:07:13 bshah: ping Sep 21 16:07:23 pong Sep 21 16:08:17 bshah: What version of systemd you guys are using for Halium? Sep 21 16:08:52 for reference rootfs it is whatever provided by ubuntu 16.04 Sep 21 16:08:57 same goes for Plasma Mobile Sep 21 16:09:28 Ah ok Sep 21 16:09:34 We're on 232 it seems Sep 21 16:09:45 Herrie|Laptop: anything specific you are looking for? Sep 21 16:09:51 No was just wondering Sep 21 16:09:59 Still looking into the kernel bits Sep 21 16:10:03 Quite some funny stuff in there Sep 21 16:10:05 Sep 21 16:17:23 Herrie|Laptop: what exactly is funny stuff though.. curious Sep 21 16:18:13 bshah: Well we use some flags in 3.4 kernel that shouldn't exist anymore :P Sep 21 16:18:47 So documenting all now Sep 21 16:19:04 we == halium? Sep 21 16:22:31 novaldex: new Gemini PDA reminds my of 25y old https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HP_95LX - which I still have somewhere :) Sep 21 16:22:35 bshah: We = LuneOS ;) Sep 21 16:22:54 bshah: We're trying to see if we can use your kernel + newer GCC fixes instead of maintaining ours Sep 21 16:22:59 So looking into diffs Sep 21 16:23:11 But even between our mako, hammerhead & tenderloin we have quite some diffs Sep 21 16:23:19 So we first need to establish what's really needed Sep 21 17:18:23 Herrie|Laptop: note that for Halium's N5 kernel, which is coming from ubports I think, the difference in bluetooth option comes from the big backport they did Sep 21 17:19:30 Herrie|Laptop: also, some options we use are sometimes just coming from whichever ROM we used as a start; but you know that already Sep 21 17:20:22 * Tofe jumps again in the "CoreNaviBack" debug... Sep 21 18:20:55 I think I've devised a way to get our key pressed to be sent correctly through QtWayland Sep 21 18:21:19 first, we should activate the "xkbcommon_evdev" config Sep 21 18:21:49 Then, we send directly the Qt key code as the native code Sep 21 18:22:12 sorry, we should *not* activate the "xkbcommon_evdev" config Sep 21 18:25:20 ah, maybe there's an easier way Sep 21 18:33:15 Tofe: Yeah I'll just walk through all, document and discuss with you :P Sep 21 18:33:40 And will put a short description of what it does and link to lkddb Sep 21 18:34:17 ok :) Sep 21 20:42:19 hmmm..missed preemptive Sep 21 20:54:51 ka6sox: I'm here... Sep 21 20:55:07 I'm about to eat so... Sep 21 20:55:31 got email...interesting! :) Sep 21 20:55:45 Worth a go? Or not? Sep 21 20:55:59 very much so Sep 21 20:56:41 I'm doubtful anything we do will make any difference and no idea what TCL's plan is, but it won't cost much to send a letter. Sep 21 20:57:32 lets try! Sep 21 20:57:57 OK, I'll await email responses..? Sep 21 21:00:19 I'll take that as a yes. Hopefully the other projects will want to join in and we can agree a text together. Sep 21 21:00:35 See you on the email. Sep 21 21:34:21 Tofe: Tenderloin with updated caf Halium bits are at: http://build.webos-ports.org/halium-wop-12.1/ Sep 21 21:55:12 Herrie|Laptop, when are you planning on integrating Halium into mainline? Sep 21 22:20:35 ka6sox: We switched to Halium based builds earlier in the week for N4 and N5. We already we're using it for TP since last release. We're currently still maintaining our own kernels (mainly due to newer gcc in OE and other projects using Google's gcc 4.7/8 Sep 21 22:20:36 /9 still), but I'm checking to see if we can upstream our gcc 5/6/7 patches to Halium's kernels and checking the defconfig differences now. Sep 21 22:22:05 Ideally we'd use Halium's kernel repo's with gcc patches & our defconfig changes. This way we don't need to maintain our own kernel repos and can also benefit from easily using other Halium target devices for LuneOS with very little effort :-) Sep 21 22:33:59 ka6sox: Or at least that's the theory Sep 21 23:25:25 Herrie|Laptop, excellent news! **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Sep 22 03:00:00 2017