**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Nov 10 03:00:00 2017 Nov 10 10:15:44 Morning! Nov 10 10:29:41 Hi! Nov 10 12:37:53 oh, so, apparently the on-ISO ubuntu installer will upgrade 15.04 to 17.04, but the live in-distro installer won't. of course, that doesn't make any attempts to keep any settings or anything like that, but at least it's an improvement over blowing everything away Nov 10 12:38:02 although i'd already spent hours copying everything so that it could be blown away Nov 10 12:59:36 EricBlade: So much for consistency Nov 10 13:00:20 EricBlade: you can always delete your backup now, if you regret the good ol' time when installing meant being on the edge :) Nov 10 13:29:09 it just halts booting after "/dev/sda1: clean" Nov 10 13:29:15 * EricBlade eyerolls Nov 10 13:39:07 no error message ? Nov 10 18:47:47 hmmm Nov 10 18:48:07 Tofe, I'm going to shut down the Jenkins server in 8hrs or so for an update Nov 10 18:48:23 and Herrie isn't about now...so hopefully he doesnt' show up and start a build. Nov 10 18:53:17 Tofe: nope. No errors. it appears to try to switch to graphics mode after saying /dev/sda1: clean, then it drops back to the console and halts right there Nov 10 18:56:31 oh, i can switch VTs and get a login prompt. that's at least useful. Nov 10 19:07:00 looks like probably the video adapter is no longer supported by either the open source or the proprietary nvidia driver. lol Nov 10 19:11:04 so i went back to a version of the nvidia driver that does support it, and now X is crashing out, instead of terminating normally, so now i'm stuck in a loop that i can't get out of Nov 10 19:13:28 ka6sox: Nothing urgent to build and anyway it would finish in < 2 hrs unless we rebuild some qt bits. Nov 10 19:13:42 ka6sox: What you're gonna upgrade? Nov 10 19:13:55 the Jenkins software Nov 10 19:14:09 security updates Nov 10 19:15:15 so jenkins can't be in charge of any jobs then. Nov 10 19:17:05 ka6sox: I thought we were on pretty new Jenkins already. Again critical security bugs? Nov 10 19:19:22 Herrie|TP, yup Nov 10 19:19:43 ok :-) Nov 10 19:19:59 Seems fact of life with everything lately :'( Nov 10 19:20:31 yes Nov 10 20:09:02 nope, none of the available nvidia drivers get it running. awesome. Nov 10 20:23:30 ... and the error that it spits has 0 hits in google. Nov 10 20:35:57 EricBlade, welcome to the Club Nov 10 22:05:44 ka6sox: ok, no pb Nov 10 23:46:40 ubuntu is just a broken system Nov 10 23:46:56 i don't think i've ever seen it work 100% on anything Nov 10 23:49:31 looks like this is a combination of a "bug" being fixed in Xorg a few months back, that "bug" is what allowed it to work in older versions, and no one has attempted to run this particular 7 year old video card on it in any recent release Nov 10 23:51:37 oh well. no one really needs X anyway Nov 10 23:52:11 * EricBlade fixes logind to ignore the lid switch (why the hell is that in logind config?) and forgets the laptop even exists Nov 11 02:08:20 EricBlade, what computer is this? Nov 11 02:08:31 * dkirker gets worried about his T420 D: **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Nov 11 03:00:02 2017