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May 22 05:54:06 <Herrie> Morning!
May 22 05:54:44 <Herrie> elvispre: Like Tofe said they're not directly related, however LG would like to have Anbox on OSE it seems and we also had it as a goal for quite some time to get it running
May 22 07:13:26 <Tofe> Morning!
May 22 10:50:17 <elvispre3> Herrie: Ah! Good info. Thanks.
May 22 11:14:26 <Herrie|Laptop> elvispre: Just seems optimal kernel version is 4.x, reports from people getting it working on 3.10 and 3.18 versions
May 22 11:18:14 <Herrie|Laptop> Seeing we only had 3.4 kernels before, it didn't make much sense
May 22 18:55:51 <Tofe> Herrie: I'm looking at webOS OSE compositor and qtwayland integration, and they really did it the other way around...
May 22 18:57:19 <Tofe> They extended the wayland protocol, the qtwayland protocol, to fit in the concepts (groups of cards, carded/maximize/fullscreen, etc)
May 22 18:57:33 <Tofe> whereas we implemented all that on the QML side of the cardshell
May 22 19:14:10 <Herrie> Tofe: Hmmz OK...
May 22 19:14:19 <Herrie> Any ideas why they might have done this?
May 22 19:14:35 <Herrie> I guess you could argue one way or another might perform better?
May 22 19:16:50 <Herrie> I guess our way is easier/more flexible and easier to extend?
May 22 19:18:41 <Tofe> Our ways is much less work :)
May 22 19:19:01 <Tofe> We rely on Qt and QtWayland, much more than what LG did
May 22 19:19:45 <Tofe> It looks good, but frankly I think they overdid it a bit
May 22 19:20:20 <Tofe> The whole goal of QtWayland is to be able to have a simple compositor with just a bunch of lines of code and/or QML
May 22 19:21:20 <Tofe> I think (but they'll have time to explain) that a good part of their code could be dropped with 5.9. Even with 5.6.
May 22 19:22:41 <Herrie> Hehe
May 22 19:22:55 <Tofe> On the other hand, I also think that extending the wayland protocol to communicate with the webOS windows (are you ready, what is your appId, etc) can be a good alternative to what we do (i.e. setting properties on windows, like "_LuneOS_AppId=toto")
May 22 19:24:25 <Tofe> I'll do a drawing to explain our own compositor more in detail
May 22 19:28:02 <Herrie> OK :)
May 22 19:28:19 <Herrie> Yeah could be a "future" compositor could pick best from both worlds
May 22 19:28:58 <Tofe> I do hope so
May 22 19:29:31 <Tofe> On our side, maybe we do too much in one big QML cardshell, and we could split things in a more elegant way
May 22 19:30:49 <Tofe> They seem to have a more elegant MVC implementation for instance
May 22 19:31:09 <Tofe> but, they reimplemented many things that are (now) native within qtwayland
May 22 19:32:07 <Tofe> window state, window aggregation, parenting, this is more conveniently managed at the QML level than at the wayland level
May 22 19:33:55 <Tofe> but we'll see. We'll tell what we have, they'll do the same, and we'll merge for the best. I hope. :)
May 22 20:27:17 <Herrie> Yup indeed :)
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