**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Dec 28 02:59:58 2018 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Dec 28 03:15:48 2018 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Dec 28 05:34:10 2018 Dec 28 08:56:09 Morning! Dec 28 09:34:51 morning Dec 28 09:38:07 JaMa: Any thoughts on what would be the best solution for having Linux & Windows on a single system besides dual boot? VMWare, VirtualBox, Docker, Hyper-V? Dec 28 09:41:47 depends on what you're trying to do with them, for simple occassional tasks (e.g. run Outlook in Windows to update e-mail filtering rules) I was happy with VirtualBox Dec 28 09:42:14 I think you cannot do that with Docker at all Dec 28 09:43:16 Xen/KVM should be on the list as well I guess, but I don't have enough experience with them Dec 28 09:45:37 for my next builder I don't want to use anything, not even Docker I'm using now, but for me the builder will be only for OE builds, so that's different case probably Dec 28 09:58:41 JaMa: I have a separate system for builder running Ubuntu and my desktop PC running Windows currently. Want to replace those 2 by the new threadripper Dec 28 10:16:19 Just would like to get the optimal performance for the builds and still be able to use Windows where needed Dec 28 10:48:54 VirtualBox in Ubuntu would be easiest, but if you ever want to use Windows for some game or something like that it might be an issue Dec 28 10:50:02 Xen above both OSs might work better, or something like OpenXt, but I'm not using either Dec 28 10:50:49 I'm stuck with dual-boot Dec 28 12:05:34 JaMa: Any other linux distro's I could try besides Ubuntu for our builds that you know work? Not a big fan of Ubuntu UI Dec 28 12:15:24 picking anything from SANITY_TESTED_DISTRO variable should be relatively safe Dec 28 12:15:37 but you won't be able to reuse any sstate from jenkins Dec 28 12:16:10 and if it's just UI, then any *ubuntu variant works, so you can use e.g. xubuntu Dec 28 12:16:57 or pick whatever you like and run the builds in ubuntu-18.04 docker Dec 28 12:17:22 currently I'm using Gentoo on desktop and LGE builds in ubuntu-18.04 docker Dec 28 12:17:53 makes it easier to upgrade/downgrade to whatever officially supported distro for the OE builds Dec 28 12:18:20 but as downside it makes it a bit more complicated to set your work flow Dec 28 12:18:59 e.g. with vscode in desktop Gentoo, I need to edit sources which are in the build directory inside docker Dec 28 12:19:48 you can easily mount bind various directories with docker, but then I also use different UIDs/GIDs (and home with settings) for "LGE" user, "OE" user and normal desktop use Dec 28 12:20:06 and then it quickly gets messy Dec 28 12:23:01 even with my qemu-native experiments it's annoying as well, I have OE built qemu-native inside the container, so I cannot easily use accelerated graphics Dec 28 12:23:48 that's why I was working on accellerated spice support, but that still needs host's drm /dev/ node exposed inside container and didn't work OOTB in the end Dec 28 12:43:52 I guess I could try Kubuntu Dec 28 12:44:23 Herrie|Laptop: btw you can install other window managers if you mean this by UI Dec 28 12:44:33 e.g. i have ubuntu+i3wm at work Dec 28 12:44:41 nizovn: Yeah just don't really like the default Ubuntu one Dec 28 12:45:22 yes, me too Dec 28 12:45:31 I guess Kubuntu is what will feel most familiar of larger ones out there, spending most time on Windows anyway for work Dec 28 13:27:32 Just waiting for parts of the system to arrive from different countries :P Dec 28 13:28:56 Got motherboard & fan already yesterday from NL, tomorrow should get RAM, M.2 SSD, Cooler. Monday PSU & CPU Dec 28 13:29:05 Big question is where is the case & HDD's :S Dec 28 13:29:47 :) Dec 28 13:30:31 * JaMa just rebooted to W7 just to see if there are some new year updates :) Dec 28 13:32:44 Parts coming from all over Europe it seems... Some things ordered in UK, Germany, NL. Seems Amazon is sending from France this time. **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Dec 29 02:54:28 2018 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Dec 29 02:59:58 2018